ND888 BIGJ:
shep532:
anisboy:
Wheel Nut:
The problem with lorry drivers forums is that lorry drivers post on them and come up with ridiculous statements like.
They wont even be insured to drive
This along with having their licences revoked, refused, removed and ripped up.
It is however, correct!!
Why is it correct?
Ok a driver who has not completed hi DCPC training is involved in an accident do you really think the insurance is going to pay out to the drivers company when they make a claim? i think not.
although nothing in an insurance policy prevents a 3rd party from making a claim. I also beleive that it will be a condition of you operators license that all persons driving vehicles for hire and reward will need a card. I dont think i know any company who will let a driver out on the road without a card.So if you aint done the training then you best get a move on cos them greeks and ex squaddies are just waiting to fill yer boots
I’ve had it from the underwriters that they don’t score DCPC as a better risk and they’re just not interested in covering under 25s, regardless of whether they have DCPC or not.
Our insurers still paid up for an accident on an airfield even though the policy said this wasn’t covered.
The reason people with pre-97 car licences can still drive 7.5t is I think it’s very difficult, in UK law, for them to remove existing driving rights from a legal standpoint. That’s why there’s the mealy-mouthed ‘driving vocationally’.
why do people keep on saying you will lose your hgv licence? you wont if you have hgv you will keep it irrespective of the dcpc and last time i checked greece and the squaddies were part of the EU so they will need a dcpc card to drive in the UK!
its a farce i am not doing it and really dont care if i never drive a truck again in my life 
and apologies to people who wrote on pages 2,3,4 couldnt be bothered to trawl through 
The Greeks will have done it (it’s a Pan-European qualification which is being introduced in countries as far away as Russia), and so will the demobbed squaddies who are already getting the training as part of their resettlement package.
Nearer to home, all Irish drivers have been doing 7 hours a year since the legislation came into force, so they will all be fully-qualifed by 2014 when time runs out for the likes of you.
However, I am reliably informed that the legislation will not be enforced in the small independent state of Cloudcookooland, where some of the people who post on here have apparently taken up residence.
dessy:
It’s nothing to do with taking away your License is it? Your welcome to the future of wagon driving! 
No doubt I’ll be driving a supermarket home delivery van in London and earning more money by 2015! And all without the TAX! 
Good luck with that
cvengineer.com/resources/hom … truths.pdf
GasGas:
dessy:
It’s nothing to do with taking away your License is it? Your welcome to the future of wagon driving! 
No doubt I’ll be driving a supermarket home delivery van in London and earning more money by 2015! And all without the TAX! 
Good luck with that
cvengineer.com/resources/hom … truths.pdf
Well CV Engineer don’t know what they’re talking about.
Even under o-licensing Sainsburys would not be under any obligation to have a qualified transport manager on a restricted licence. Not sure how they think the o-licence regime helps driving standards.
Yes its a farce i have done it but im afraid there are more drivers than jobs so i will keep my job thanks. If a handfull of drivers decide to throw in the towel then thats thier choice plenty of people to fill their boots and also i dont think it will make any difference if the industry loses a few idiots who would be on the dole just to prove a point
The CV Engineer article was about the poor state of the vehicles, not the standard of the drivers.
And even a restricted O licence can be taken away if vehicles are operated in a dangerous condition
As this is one of those things that, although badly thought out, is not going to go away, I have decided to deal with it as expediently as possible.
I have recently completed the required 35hrs, and received my card covering me to 2019. However, my plan is to do the next 35hrs as soon as is practicable after September 2014, thereby seeing me right through to 2024.
Unless I have misunderstood the rules, this would appear to be possible, and I would have just under 10 years without having to give it much thought.
A wise move…that way you’ll avoid the inevitable last minute rush and price increases
GasGas:
A wise move…that way you’ll avoid the inevitable last minute rush and price increases
yes a wise move indeed up here in jockland we get a thing called ILA where the scottish gvt put £200 per year towards training so i will complete 2 modules per year for 2 years then the remaining module the year after.
that way by 2015 i will be good to go until 2024 and it wont cost me a penny
so if your north of the border go on the ila website and apply if you get the grant they simply send you a voucher then take it to a training provider who will get paid for the modules.
grumpybum:
As this is one of those things that, although badly thought out, is not going to go away, I have decided to deal with it as expediently as possible.
I have recently completed the required 35hrs, and received my card covering me to 2019. However, my plan is to do the next 35hrs as soon as is practicable after September 2014, thereby seeing me right through to 2024.
Unless I have misunderstood the rules, this would appear to be possible, and I would have just under 10 years without having to give it much thought.
yeah, but who knows what the future holds, you might of give up driving or you might be working for a firm that pays for your course and time on it.
it’d be reasonable to think the prices will be stable then as well.
ND888 BIGJ:
GasGas:
A wise move…that way you’ll avoid the inevitable last minute rush and price increases
yes a wise move indeed up here in jockland we get a thing called ILA where the scottish gvt put £200 per year towards training so i will complete 2 modules per year for 2 years then the remaining module the year after.
that way by 2015 i will be good to go until 2024 and it wont cost me a penny
so if your north of the border go on the ila website and apply if you get the grant they simply send you a voucher then take it to a training provider who will get paid for the modules.
Yet another reason for Scottish independance… 
stevieboy308:
grumpybum:
As this is one of those things that, although badly thought out, is not going to go away, I have decided to deal with it as expediently as possible.
I have recently completed the required 35hrs, and received my card covering me to 2019. However, my plan is to do the next 35hrs as soon as is practicable after September 2014, thereby seeing me right through to 2024.
Unless I have misunderstood the rules, this would appear to be possible, and I would have just under 10 years without having to give it much thought.
yeah, but who knows what the future holds, you might of give up driving or you might be working for a firm that pays for your course and time on it.
it’d be reasonable to think the prices will be stable then as well.
That’s all very true. It may not be the best way to go about it, and may cost me in the long run. But, personally I just like to get things out of the way and not to have to think about them for as long as possible. I can’t cope with too much to think about 
I just need to call Shep and put this one to him, we can get a course approved and it will be the full 7 hours towards your DCPC.
Entitled.
Dispelling myths amongst the transport industry,
tallyman:
ND888 BIGJ:
GasGas:
A wise move…that way you’ll avoid the inevitable last minute rush and price increases
yes a wise move indeed up here in jockland we get a thing called ILA where the scottish gvt put £200 per year towards training so i will complete 2 modules per year for 2 years then the remaining module the year after.
that way by 2015 i will be good to go until 2024 and it wont cost me a penny
so if your north of the border go on the ila website and apply if you get the grant they simply send you a voucher then take it to a training provider who will get paid for the modules.
Yet another reason for Scottish independance… 
why would ILA be another reason for scottish independence? bit of a random statement dont you agree?
if scotland gets full independance we would no longer be part of the EU. we would have to apply as an independent state.
so in the intrim period we would not need to comform to this or any other EU directive.
Every cloud has a silver lining eh?
Wheel Nut:
I just need to call Shep and put this one to him, we can get a course approved and it will be the full 7 hours towards your DCPC.
Entitled.
Dispelling myths amongst the transport industry,
Module 1)
Hanging an old CD in your windscreen will not defeat the police lazer/radar.
Module 2)
Sea water is not an effective substitute for AdBlue
Module 3)
Fit young women do not find grubby day-go vests and beer bellies attractive
That should get us to lunch…who’s got some ideas for the afternoon session?
Wheel Nut:
I just need to call Shep and put this one to him, we can get a course approved and it will be the full 7 hours towards your DCPC.
Entitled.
Dispelling myths amongst the transport industry,
That sounds entertaining, put me down for the first course 
tachograph:
Wheel Nut:
I just need to call Shep and put this one to him, we can get a course approved and it will be the full 7 hours towards your DCPC.
Entitled.
Dispelling myths amongst the transport industry,
That sounds entertaining, put me down for the first course 
I think it would need more than 7 hours.
Wheel Nut:
I just need to call Shep and put this one to him, we can get a course approved and it will be the full 7 hours towards your DCPC.
Entitled.
Dispelling myths amongst the transport industry,
Funnily enough this course went off for approval last week along with the cheque for £250.
I had to make it a 14 hour course though … just so many myths to despell 
This new course module wont help while the trainers are spouting myths and out of date information.Commercial driving is mainly a practical occupation .and sitting in a class room doesnt fit with that.