T&D Letter of the month

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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Mike-C:
Anyone else seen it? A homosexual guy looking to get on the bendies. I thought it was a refreshing change. We don’t have enough homosexuals driving trucks, or ethnic minorities or women either. Infact i think this Industry is ‘institutionallly racist, homophobic and sexist’ , it seems to prefer older , unskilled or non proffesional males. Sometimes i wonder, do employers do this on purpose. Also why are trucks not designed with disabled drivers in mind, its a fact there are quite a few disabled drivers in full time employment. There doesn’t seem to be any diversity in our job, i wonder why?

Sorry Mike but that’s a complete load of tripe, it’s that type of PC liberal left wing thinking that has gotten the country into the state that it’s in, what this industry needs are LORRY DRIVERS not the bunch of ‘scared to do a U-turn’ muppets that hold a steering wheel at the moment (not all of you) the reason that it’s a predominantly older white male environment is because it used to be a hard days work before all the electronic gizmos & that’s the kind of person who did the job then, recently the long hours & possible nights away have deterred all but the 2nd, 3rd & 4th generation lorry drivers from choosing it as a career, so that’s why the youngsters aren’t doing it, it’s much easier to work in a parasitic industry such as banking or insurance, pushing buttons on a keypad than it is to actually work for a living.

Women, like it or not are primarily homemakers, they may be able to combine having kids etc with an office job but the average childminder/creche will be majorly ■■■■■■ off when they get a call saying that the M1 is closed at J13 so they don’t know what time they’ll be back to pick up their kid, so that part alone excludes most of them, let alone the complete lack of facilities for them.

Gays, well who gives a toss about ■■■■■■■■■, yeah there’s a minority who will object, personally I don’t follow the rules in the bible so I can’t use that objection, I don’t get the gay thing, but then I wouldn’t because I’m not, can’t see how it affects things really, obviously the Julian Clary types wouldn’t be interested but not all gay men are like that & as a previous thread has proven there are gays within the industry, some out in the open, some not.

Racial minorities, that’s like saying more white people should work in kebab houses/Indian/Chinese resturaunts, surely if our industry is seen as mostly racist then all of them are 100% racist? Anyway what about all the Eastern Europeans that we all know & love? The way it’s going, middle aged white men will soon be a minority, the rate that the current minorities reproduce we will soon be outnumbered, in order to sustain the population at the current level, every man & woman on the planet should have 1 child per person, well that’s an ideal world, with all the gay/lesbian people, those that couldn’t pull a muscle let alone a bird, those that are infertile & people that die before reaching child bearing/making age the number rises to something like 1.3 children per person or 2.6 per couple. White Europeans & Americans reproduce at a rate of less than .6 per person so the white population is decreasing, others that are called minorities in the western world reproduce at the rate of up to 3.5 children per person, so do the maths.

Being disabled, that also doesn’t categorically deny the right to be a lorry driver, but they can hardly do agency work can they, a lot of able bodied newbies have trouble getting started, how much more difficult would it be if special adaptments were needed for them to drive a lorry? So that’s that question answered too.

So there you go, BTW I’m not a phobe of any kind, not a racially motivated either, I’m just a realist

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limeyphil:
sorry, but i must disagree on this.
[zb] are abnormal. god made man and women to produce man and women.

And the act of ■■■ is only for procreation…

So can you explain why the largest Cristian group have homosexual clergy? and more to the point you are assuming there actually is a god.

limeyphil:
on the point of ethnic minorities, if we carry on with the way we are going, we will be the minority.
we should however design trucks for people who are disabled, as long as they are for the majority, ethnic, british people.
why should we think of the immigrants before our own kids.

I presume when we are not the majority you want them to stop making these trucks, or exclude us from having them. Where do you draw the line with being British? is it just the Ginger haired who were here first, maybe you include the immigrant Saxons and Normans, what about the slaves we bought to our nation in the 18th century, and what about the Jamaicans and Irish who came over after the war, are they included, and the Polish who stayed here after the war, will you be including the disabled and Jewish who fled Germany in the 40’s… What about those who have one British parent and one for another country, When you say ethnic and British it is very hard for me to understand where the line is drawn…please be more specific so I can understand.

limeyphil:
my comments are not politically correct, but they are right.

in your bigoted opinion maybe, but even your god would disagree with you there.

In the modern West, major studies indicate a prevalence of 2% to 13% of the population. A 2006 study suggested that 20% of the population anonymously reported some homosexual feelings,

source

it seems there must be some drivers out there who are keeping quiet about their real ■■■■■■■■■.

In a number of truck stops in Europe you get as many male as female prostitutes, you can bet the males aren’t looking for female drivers, and they must be making a living from it or they wouldn’t be there every night.

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Gentlemen and ladies:

Before this degenerates into a farce, please just remember one thing:-

Employers, especially in this current economic climate are looking for DRIVERS that can do the job, safely, courteously and in line with both their requirements and their clients requirements.

It does not matter what ■■■■■■■■■, colour, religion, ethnic origin or gender the driver is, so long as they can do the job to their best ability.

The diversity issue is more related to the disparate nature of our business and the industry sector we are in. I am sure that we could find every shade of ■■■■■■, political and ethnic persuasion within the driving communtiy, so why we feel the need to publicise a particular point of view defeats me.

We should welcome anyone from the industry seeking to improve themselves.

Anyway rant over now - and I wish those seeking to better themselves the best of luck !!

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Lets get one thing straight, lorry driving these days is as easy as its ever been, auto boxes, air con, fridges, sat navs if used properly :unamused: , mobile communications. The trailers, mainly fridges or curtains, very rare now to see a sheeted flat…
You dont need to be ‘clever’ to drive a truck, just common sense, so for the single women its a ‘doable’ job. In fact I would go so far to say that most of us didnt do very well at school, if we did then we should have used the skills better to better ouselves.

As for Gays and Lesbians, well those of you who hate gays, I am willing to bet in your career as a trucker, waiting at Docks, RDC’s, night outing in a transport cafe, moaning about the job to that decent guy from for ********* Transport Co, that at some point you have been having a good old chin wag with a raving ■■■■, yet you didnt know it, and cos you didnt know, he was a nice guy, ‘true trucker’. Double standards at its best eh??

As for being treated like a lump of dung, well looking at the dress standard coupled with some very dodgy hygiene standards from a lot of drivers, I can understand where we get the tag from, plus of course the peeing on the car parks, lowers us to the dosser/tramp stautus in the eyes of the public…

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Coddy:
You dont need to be ‘clever’ to drive a truck, just common sense, so for the single women its a ‘doable’ job. In fact I would go so far to say that most of us didnt do very well at school, if we did then we should have used the skills better to better ouselves.

I don’t quite agree with that part. I didn’t do too bad at school, and could quite probably gone on to university. But I didn’t want to. I do things because I like doing them not because it’s my “station” in life.
Saying that you’re a lorry driver because you didn’t “better” yourself is admitting that lorry driving is lower than working in an office. I quit working in an office, because being surrounded by those people who “bettered” themselves made me sick. The amount of time wasted by chatting, drinking coffee, larking about, and not being very good at what they’re supposed to know all about, made every day an exercise in frustration for me. I like a job where you can get on with it. When the people you work with have no interest in doing that it makes it hard to get anything done. They don’t do those jobs because they’re better than us, they do them because they’re mostly useless at anything else. Their whole day consists of home, then drive to work, the office, then drive home again. They hardly ever meet anybody who isn’t already part of their little world, and it always takes place in artificial surroundings. I prefer the open air, travel, meeting new faces, the challenge of being wholly responsible for the task I’ve been given.
So I wouldn’t say they are better, in fact quite the opposite. I put my heart and soul into every job I do, because that’s the only way I know. This whole thread is about assumptions, about ■■■■■■■■■, physical ability, work ethic etc. Taking the line that you can better yourself by working in a different job (than trucking) reinforces the view that trucking is for losers. Not true. Unless you are measuring it in ways that are defined by those who claim to be better than you, which I described above.
If you saw a guy in a wheelchair with dribble down his face you might assume he wasn’t good for much. Let me present Stephen Hawking.
I’m not sure how single women and not being clever add up either. And common sense is mostly absent in highly intelligent people, they spend all their mental ability on being clever, not on being observant and pragmatic.
Here’s list of words that mean pragmatic :

balanced, down-to-earth, earthy, hardheaded, level-headed, logical, matter-of-fact, philosophical, positivist, positivistic, practical, pragmatical, prudent, rational, realist, realistic, reasonable, sane, scientific, secular, sensible, sober, sophisticated, unidealistic, unromantic, unsentimental, utilitarian, well-balanced, worldly

There are only a few there that I wouldn’t want to be described as, the rest are all desirable things surely.
Pragmatic gets the job done, by whatever means it takes, unless the best way is not to do it at all. Intelligence usually means doing nothing until the perfect solution is devised.

Sorry if I’ve drifted away a bit there, but it makes my hackles rise when people talk about “bettering” themselves. Be proud of who you are, and recognise your talents.

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smoker:

Coddy:
You dont need to be ‘clever’ to drive a truck, just common sense, so for the single women its a ‘doable’ job. In fact I would go so far to say that most of us didnt do very well at school, if we did then we should have used the skills better to better ouselves.

I don’t quite agree with that part. I didn’t do too bad at school, and could quite probably gone on to university. But I didn’t want to. I do things because I like doing them not because it’s my “station” in life.
Saying that you’re a lorry driver because you didn’t “better” yourself is admitting that lorry driving is lower than working in an office. I quit working in an office, because being surrounded by those people who “bettered” themselves made me sick. The amount of time wasted by chatting, drinking coffee, larking about, and not being very good at what they’re supposed to know all about, made every day an exercise in frustration for me. I like a job where you can get on with it. When the people you work with have no interest in doing that it makes it hard to get anything done. They don’t do those jobs because they’re better than us, they do them because they’re mostly useless at anything else. Their whole day consists of home, then drive to work, the office, then drive home again. They hardly ever meet anybody who isn’t already part of their little world, and it always takes place in artificial surroundings. I prefer the open air, travel, meeting new faces, the challenge of being wholly responsible for the task I’ve been given.
So I wouldn’t say they are better, in fact quite the opposite. I put my heart and soul into every job I do, because that’s the only way I know. This whole thread is about assumptions, about ■■■■■■■■■, physical ability, work ethic etc. Taking the line that you can better yourself by working in a different job (than trucking) reinforces the view that trucking is for losers. Not true. Unless you are measuring it in ways that are defined by those who claim to be better than you, which I described above.
If you saw a guy in a wheelchair with dribble down his face you might assume he wasn’t good for much. Let me present Stephen Hawking.
I’m not sure how single women and not being clever add up either. And common sense is mostly absent in highly intelligent people, they spend all their mental ability on being clever, not on being observant and pragmatic.
Here’s list of words that mean pragmatic :

balanced, down-to-earth, earthy, hardheaded, level-headed, logical, matter-of-fact, philosophical, positivist, positivistic, practical, pragmatical, prudent, rational, realist, realistic, reasonable, sane, scientific, secular, sensible, sober, sophisticated, unidealistic, unromantic, unsentimental, utilitarian, well-balanced, worldly

There are only a few there that I wouldn’t want to be described as, the rest are all desirable things surely.
Pragmatic gets the job done, by whatever means it takes, unless the best way is not to do it at all. Intelligence usually means doing nothing until the perfect solution is devised.

Sorry if I’ve drifted away a bit there, but it makes my hackles rise when people talk about “bettering” themselves. Be proud of who you are, and recognise your talents.

I take it you dont agree with me then? :unamused: :unamused:

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smoker:

Coddy:
You dont need to be ‘clever’ to drive a truck, just common sense, so for the single women its a ‘doable’ job. In fact I would go so far to say that most of us didnt do very well at school, if we did then we should have used the skills better to better ouselves.

I don’t quite agree with that part. I didn’t do too bad at school, and could quite probably gone on to university. But I didn’t want to. I do things because I like doing them not because it’s my “station” in life.
Saying that you’re a lorry driver because you didn’t “better” yourself is admitting that lorry driving is lower than working in an office. I quit working in an office, because being surrounded by those people who “bettered” themselves made me sick. The amount of time wasted by chatting, drinking coffee, larking about, and not being very good at what they’re supposed to know all about, made every day an exercise in frustration for me. I like a job where you can get on with it. When the people you work with have no interest in doing that it makes it hard to get anything done. They don’t do those jobs because they’re better than us, they do them because they’re mostly useless at anything else. Their whole day consists of home, then drive to work, the office, then drive home again. They hardly ever meet anybody who isn’t already part of their little world, and it always takes place in artificial surroundings. I prefer the open air, travel, meeting new faces, the challenge of being wholly responsible for the task I’ve been given.
So I wouldn’t say they are better, in fact quite the opposite. I put my heart and soul into every job I do, because that’s the only way I know. This whole thread is about assumptions, about ■■■■■■■■■, physical ability, work ethic etc. Taking the line that you can better yourself by working in a different job (than trucking) reinforces the view that trucking is for losers. Not true. Unless you are measuring it in ways that are defined by those who claim to be better than you, which I described above.
If you saw a guy in a wheelchair with dribble down his face you might assume he wasn’t good for much. Let me present Stephen Hawking.
I’m not sure how single women and not being clever add up either. And common sense is mostly absent in highly intelligent people, they spend all their mental ability on being clever, not on being observant and pragmatic.
Here’s list of words that mean pragmatic :

balanced, down-to-earth, earthy, hardheaded, level-headed, logical, matter-of-fact, philosophical, positivist, positivistic, practical, pragmatical, prudent, rational, realist, realistic, reasonable, sane, scientific, secular, sensible, sober, sophisticated, unidealistic, unromantic, unsentimental, utilitarian, well-balanced, worldly

There are only a few there that I wouldn’t want to be described as, the rest are all desirable things surely.
Pragmatic gets the job done, by whatever means it takes, unless the best way is not to do it at all. Intelligence usually means doing nothing until the perfect solution is devised.

Sorry if I’ve drifted away a bit there, but it makes my hackles rise when people talk about “bettering” themselves. Be proud of who you are, and recognise your talents.

Post of the week that Smoker, well said. I’m quite similar, did a stint in an office. I hated it. You summed up my view of things exactly.

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Says a lot when office workers are paid more than truck drivers… :wink:

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Mike-C:
Anyone else seen it? A homosexual guy looking to get on the bendies. I thought it was a refreshing change. We don’t have enough homosexuals driving trucks, or ethnic minorities or women either. Infact i think this Industry is ‘institutionallly racist, homophobic and sexist’ , it seems to prefer older , unskilled or non proffesional males. Sometimes i wonder, do employers do this on purpose. Also why are trucks not designed with disabled drivers in mind, its a fact there are quite a few disabled drivers in full time employment. There doesn’t seem to be any diversity in our job, i wonder why?

If you will pardon the pun, a refreshing change my bum! And thats the polite version. Irregardless of whatever politically correct laws you have to suffer in the UK, the fact remains that the majority of normal heterosexual males find homosexual males repugnant, myself included. Personally i would not knowingly work with someone who is homosexual. If they are such nice clean and decent people, why do so many of them hang around in gents toilets soliciting themselves? Just the smell in most Gents requires that a normal bloke does what is required then gets the hell out - homosexuals seem to enjoy the places.

As for women driving trucks ask yourself why they dont. Would unsocial hours, protracted periods away from home and frequently dirty cold working conditions to name several points not be enough to mput them off?

Disabled drivers may possibly be able to work on some jobs and good luck to them - however an employer should not have to employ a second driver to carry out work other than driving. Dependant upon an individuals disability they may not be able to open and close curtains secure loads with ratchet straps, etc… etc…

As regards those of us who currently drive what makes you think that we are “unskilled or non professional males” (Spellling corrected!)? I personally have a Degree in Computer Science and for a while worked as an engineer for B.T. Although I didnt like it and returned to driving - I am sure that a good many others both on this board and generally have all manner of qualifications. If they havent, then so what, does this make them less able to form an opinion - which may well be at odds with yours?

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Smoker,

Well put mate, I thoroughly agree with you.

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Coddy:
Says a lot when office workers are paid more than truck drivers… :wink:

Aah, but that’s not true. The top managers might be, but your average office worker is lucky to see 20k a year.
And I didn’t say I disagreed with you, just that “bettering yourself” is not a reason to get out of trucking.

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Can I just say as a last point on “bettering” yourself, that it’s because of people trying to “better” themselves that the universities are full and are making the courses easier. And the fact that thousands of immigrants are able to find work doing manual labour, because all our kids are “too good” to do that kind of work. I’ve worked on shop floors of factories with guys who had degrees, and we both got exactly the same money. Too often people think of a degree as meaning they will be “better” than someone without one, or that they will make more money. But a degree in television comedy doesn’t really mean much in the real world, and the roads still need sweeping, and the bins still need emptying. If the immigrants don’t do it, who will ?
Of course, I bettered myself by taking and passing my class 1, but that’s not the kind of thing you meant coddy, was it ?

Fair play to the immigrants by the way. Spot an opportunity and go for it.

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Sorry Smoker but, no, you’re not having the last point :laughing:

The idea of ‘bettering’ yourself by moving away from driving lorries is only because it is perceieved by the general public that lorry driving is blue collar. The whole concept of life is that we are supposed to make best use of the talents we have, whether given to us by our particular God or Goddess (can’t leave the Pagans out :laughing: ) or those that come naturally, well that’s where the whole thing becomes rather mixed up. For example, I used to drive a lorry, I was a good driver, I had a newish lorry & earned pretty good money, but I am supposedly an intelligent person who could do much better for myself, so I made the move into the office, again I was pretty good at it, I had managed to keep my wages the same as before as part of the agreement, but I didn’t really enjoy going to work anymore. Yes I had acheived better ‘social standing’ my income was the same, but how had I bettered myself when all I wanted to do was tell the boss to shove it & get back up the road in my lorry?

I have done a variety of things in my career, all closely related to road transport & some I’ve enjoyed, working at TRUCK mag for example, here I got the best of both worlds as I did plenty of driving but combined it with flying around Europe & getting pickled in expensive hotels (don’t listen to the truck journos when they say it’s a hard job :laughing: ) I then became an O/D & ended up with 5 new lorries which meant coming off the road again, so here I am, a businessman, plenty of social standing there, I was making very good money too, had a nice house, car, holidays blah blah blah, but I would still have been happier back out on the road, so how was it better? Yes I had all of societies boxes ticked, but I didn’t have any of mine ticked & that’s what it boils down to for me, you can’t get ‘better’ than being happy, if you’re shallow enough that wearing a suit to work or making lots of money makes you happy then go for it, but for me to be happy I need to be doing something that I enjoy & that’s driving lorries.

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Hombre:
If they are such nice clean and decent people, why do so many of them hang around in gents toilets soliciting themselves? Just the smell in most Gents requires that a normal bloke does what is required then gets the hell out - homosexuals seem to enjoy the places.

Your talking of a small minority here. I myself (and alot of my gay friends) find that “crusing” toilets is disgusting. Not every gay fella, and indeed quite the minority, do this. The graffiti and “glory holes” created at toilets are disgusting, and I suppose this supports your view of them, however as said in a previous post every part of society has its “rotten apples” - just don’t go around tarring everyone with the same brush. Alot of these “facilities” are used by married/bi fellas, who may not have the medium to contact other “like minded” guys, and so use them for so called “fun” - leaving the impression that it was the “gays” who did it.

What a nice way to get your thrill. :unamused:

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newmercman:
Sorry Smoker but, no, you’re not having the last point :laughing:

Yes I had all of societies boxes ticked, but I didn’t have any of mine ticked & that’s what it boils down to for me, you can’t get ‘better’ than being happy, if you’re shallow enough that wearing a suit to work or making lots of money makes you happy then go for it, but for me to be happy I need to be doing something that I enjoy & that’s driving lorries.

I agree. It’s how you feel about yourself that matters most, not how it appears to others. My old man keeps banging on at me to get a job black box testing on computers. Sure, I could probably do the job, and make a lot of money doing it. But I would have to blag it to start with and I don’t like the life I would have to lead.
I like computers, but working with them day in day out spoils it. Driving a truck gives real world feedback and visible results. I actually get something done, and it feels good. Whether or not I drive a truck forever is in the lap of those deities you mentioned.
Over to you :wink:

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Just because ‘some’ of you have done well in other jobs you are a minority when it comes to driving, even though you ‘think’ you are the majoriy…

Of course some people do it cos they love the freedom etc, many more do it because they know nothing else, no qualifications, and no desire to go for further education… Does not detract that the job is a damm site easier now than its ever been.

What is wrong with gays, so long as its not ‘in your face’ and behind closed doors who gives a monkeys, most straight blokes will sit and watch a DVD of two Lessies giving it some ‘tongue and groove’ wont you… And women seem to like a bit of guy on guy action (So my wife tells me :blush: ) In fact I wonder how many blokes on here fantasise or actully do give thier wives/girlfriend a portion in the choccy starfish■■?

A lot of you guys need to remove blinkers and look at all sides of a story…

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Coddy:
Just because ‘some’ of you have done well in other jobs you are a minority when it comes to driving, even though you ‘think’ you are the majoriy…

Of course some people do it cos they love the freedom etc, many more do it because they know nothing else, no qualifications, and no desire to go for further education… Does not detract that the job is a damm site easier now than its ever been.

What is wrong with gays, so long as its not ‘in your face’ and behind closed doors who gives a monkeys, most straight blokes will sit and watch a DVD of two Lessies giving it some ‘tongue and groove’ wont you… And women seem to like a bit of guy on guy action (So my wife tells me :blush: ) In fact I wonder how many blokes on here fantasise or actully do give thier wives/girlfriend a portion in the choccy starfish■■?

A lot of you guys need to remove blinkers and look at all sides of a story…

Ok one thing at a time, yes there are those among the driving fraternity that only do it because they are too lazy to apply themselves to any other type of job, yes they may be of limited academic ability, but I wouldn’t say they are stupid, it’s the same in other walks of life, take football for example, Paul Gascoigne had an almost perfect footballing brain but in all other areas the bloke is as silly as a box of frogs, now if they were to apply that brainpower in other avenues, who knows what they could achieve, it just a matter of self confidence really, I know that if I work hard at something then I have a good chance at being sucessful at it, even the likes of the aforementioned Geordie buffon had to practice long & hard to become the player that he was, that he could’ve been even better demonstrates my point about laziness, now that laziness could be because their self confidence tells them that they are not good enough or it could just be that they have no ambition, or even that like myself, Smoker & many others, we actually enjoy what we do, even down to moaning about the job, which is a time honoured tradition :laughing:

The fact that the job has become easier now has taken a lot of the fun away from it, when it was harder we had to help each other out, mostly due to the fact that we needed the help ourselves rather than out of love for our fellow man, which brings me to the homosexuality issue, I’m no fan of man love, quite partial to a bit of ■■■■■■■ girl, although ■■■■ lesbians bear almost no relation to ‘real world’ lesbians, most of them are a bit on the butch side, but ■■■■ is about fantasy & that’s where lesbianism belongs in my life, I can honestly say I would not like to see the mrs indulging in a bit of rug munching, in the same way I wouldn’t want to see her with another bloke, but I digress, I think the problem is blatant homosexuality, all that ‘we’re here & we’re queer’ crap, who cares? I don’t want to know what you get up to in the bedroom, who you do it with or whatever & if you are gay, don’t talk with one of those ridiculous camp voices, it’s put on & it’s really not necessary & it will get up peoples noses.

My own stance on the gay issue has become slightly jaded in recent years, it seems that it’s fashionable to be gay now, people are, it seems, choosing to be gay & that goes against the whole gay principal of being born that way, just look at the reality shows on TV, every one of them has got a raving poofter on it, then you’ve got Julian Clary, Allen Carr & that hideous pair on Little Britain, I think true ‘born’ gays must be embarrassed by the antics of this lot.

I would not judge a person on ■■■■■■■■■ alone, unless they are a Julian Clary impersonator, even as far as my own Son, I wouldn’t love him any less, but I wouldn’t have anything to do with his boyfriend, not through discrimination, but through my own personal choice to not watch overt displays of love & affection between 2 men, I don’t think that makes me homophobic, but if it does, well hey ho, it’s my opinion & I’m entitled to it :wink:

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newmercman:
My own stance on the gay issue has become slightly jaded in recent years, it seems that it’s fashionable to be gay now, people are, it seems, choosing to be gay & that goes against the whole gay principal of being born that way, just look at the reality shows on TV, every one of them has got a raving poofter on it, then you’ve got Julian Clary, Allen Carr & that hideous pair on Little Britain, I think true ‘born’ gays must be embarrassed by the antics of this lot.

:laughing:
Dale Winton :open_mouth:
There was a time when the more risque performers used to camp it up, like John Inman, Charles Hawtree, ■■■■ Emery, and Larry Grayson. These days we’re lucky they don’t do the evil deed on camera.
Mind you I can’t stand that ■■■■ Russell Brand either. Why do these people have to invent a loud personality ? They can’t amount to much without it I guess.
My local pub has several gays of both sexes and unless you were trying to get laid, you wouldn’t know the difference.

Coddy:
Just because ‘some’ of you have done well in other jobs you are a minority when it comes to driving, even though you ‘think’ you are the majority…
Of course some people do it cos they love the freedom etc, many more do it because they know nothing else, no qualifications, and no desire to go for further education… Does not detract that the job is a damm site easier now than its ever been.

I don’t think anything of the sort. I do what I do. I’ve never found it worthwhile to wonder what other people think about me. I would be surprised if anybody worried what I thought about them. If other truckers are only doing it because they can’t do anything else, how does that affect me ? At the end of the day, I live or die according to whether I can support myself. Apparently I can do this job well enough so that’s that. Yes the job is easier, most jobs are what with H&S saying you can’t lift more than 25kg etc.
I’ll always remember a bloke on the farm when I was a teenager. “Any fool can drive a tractor”. Maybe I’m a fool then. I just like machines, always have and an artic is the biggest machine I’ll probably get to drive. A computer is another machine, it’s just that you have to imagine the workings rather than oil them.
Please don’t think I’m “showing off” or rubbing it in that I’m clever, because as far as I’m concerned I’m not. Just saying it as I see it. I treat everybody else as equals unless they prove they’re not. Maybe that’s what I’m doing wrong.
I’ll tell you what my ambitions are though - if I ever get the cash, I want a boat and also a private pilots licence. There you go, more machines. I used to drive 360 excavators too and big site dumpers and side loaders and forklifts. I’d love to have a crack at the lap on top gear. Me and my mates used to drive go-karts at the local banger circuit in the ■■■■■■■ rain on a sunday for the crack. My old man used to run tippers when I was a kid, I used to go out with him when I was off school. Last one he had was a scammel 8 wheeler. He had me stripping and rebuilding car engines by the time I was 13.
I’m a driver. What should I do for a living ?
I’m not independently wealthy, I live in a ■■■■■■ bedsit because I sold my house 10 years ago to go traveling and to avoid repossession. I don’t need a house if I’m tramping. But I do need the work, I’m not playing at it. I can’t just walk into anything else. Maybe if I was gay …

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