what does it matter.If the person can do the job ?.Does creed, colour, religion ,■■■■■■■■■,gender really make a difference as for the likes of berewic theres bigots in every walk of life you can,t escape them and they,re entitled to their opinions the same as everyone else just cos you do,nt agree does,nt mean you can silence them.In my 20 yrs in the job i,ve met allsorts ex barristers,teachers,squaddies,gay, straight, ones who aint sure.Thats the fabric of life and thats why i love it each to their own,live and let live.Goodnite i,m gonna crash now. i love this forum reallty fires up the grey matter 
ANDY1961:
Harry Monk:
Olog Hai:
i wonder if any of this thread is going to make it into T&D or the commercial motor?!Well, I hope not because a few of the comments simply reinforce the public’s general perception uf us as simple-mided bigots and morons.
Well said Harry.
It’s frightening how simple-minded some truck drivers can be!
I’m unable to reply to your threads in the manner I would wish, due to warnings from the moderators. I will say however, I’m going to blame it on the government and it’s media. Firstly for inciting my hatred and secondly for brain washing you into compliance. I used to have similar opinions as you, ie, each to his own but since this government have actively campaigned in it’s promotion on this subject and other certain ideologies, I’ve turned more aggressive in my views in attempts to combat their propaganda.
I hate this government with a vengeance and everything it stands for.
Mike-C:
Right, lets not degenerate into slagging off various people, thats not what i’m interested in doing.My question is a simple one and that is…why is diversity not promoted in our job when it is in almost every other? I’m not asking anyone what they think of other people i’m just asking why its not promoted?
although you are not slagging us off mike you did say in your original post we were mostly all non-skilled and un-professional, well sorry but speak for yourself because i consider myself to be skilled and qualified to drive a truck
Harry Monk:
buck73:
.it doesnt bother me what ■■■■■■■■■… people belong to,as long as they dont ram it down my throat…Careless choice of words there Buck
Wiretwister:
Joshh:
Becuase what is the point in creating trucks for disabled truck drivers there’s not gonna be much money in it for volvo, daf etc. When there arn’t many so for those who are disabled and drive a truck they can get the truck modified for there purposes by someone else.Have you considered that a development that makes it possible for a “disabled” driver to become “enabled” might also be of benefit to all drivers? A couple of examples that I could offer would be air dampered seats and power assisted controls. For those who have back injuries air damped seats are a great benefit, for all drivers they are better than the truck suspension alone.
For those who have chest/breathing problems the exersion of operating vehicles that are not power assisted could be prohibitive. All drivers benefit from the lighter, more responsive, vehicle controls which in turn reduces driver strain, fatigue.Take it from someone who is currently “enabled” there are few things more annoying than being patronised and bracketed by people who would right you off because of their inability, maybe that should be “disability”, to think creatively and enable people who can do a job to do so; all be it in an unconventional way. The best enabler that I have is my manner and my tongue. “I’m struggling with this cage/pallet can you give me a hand please?” failing that i take a bit longer and break them down so that I can manage them. To use the management speak I work smarter not harder.
As to the gay angle well I couldn’t give a stuff about other peoples ■■■■■■ orientation and preferences. I tend not to be fighting off unwanted ■■■■■■ advances from either gender so I guess I’m either so hot I scare them off or so ugly as to …scare them off.
Totally agree. 
As for those who think that anyone disabled and still working “can’t be that disabled”, walk a week in my shoes and tell me you still believe that.
Is Gay Freight out of London still going… DJV are good for back loads, so long as you’ve got a forty footer.
Probably because gay people do not go around advertising the fact they are gay, why would they want to do that? If you were gay and attended a job interview would you say “by the way I am gay and expect special priority for the job”, of course you wouldn’t. Gay or straight, makes absolutely no difference in the workplace.
Tiger
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Im not sure if you are being sarcastic or not but i totally disagree with this IMO if you are a black, gay, disabled female muslim with ginger hair then you are going to get a job no bother as a lot of employers are scared not to give any or all of the above a job in case they are sued for discrimanation.
berewic:
I’m unable to reply to your threads in the manner I would wish, due to warnings from the moderators. I will say however, I’m going to blame it on the government and it’s media. Firstly for inciting my hatred and secondly for brain washing you into compliance…
I don’t “comply” with anything, I simply don’t care what the bloke in the next truck gets up to in the privacy of his own bedroom because it just isn’t any of my business. I am more concerned about sharing my workplace with somebody who harbours an entirely irrational hatred.
Lucy:
As for those who think that anyone disabled and still working “can’t be that disabled”, walk a week in my shoes and tell me you still believe that.
Since “disabled” means by definition “unable” then my point stands. If you disable something, then it doesn’t work.
See my previous post. As it stands, “disabled” covers an extremely wide range of conditions ranging from having 1 finger missing, to being quadriplegic. Anybody seeking to get extra benefits or sympathy due to a physical disability but still able to do a normal job, is milking it, IMHO. I’d quite like a drivers seat that came down to ground level and let me just step in, but I don’t see any govt. departments rushing to get one fitted for me. Everybody has needs, some aren’t visible,and the people concerned just get on with their lives. If they are physically able, then they are physically able. Using “disability” to make your life easier when others just get on with it is a bit self centred.
There used to be a bloke who drank in my local. He was in a wheelchair (electric), had MS or something. On the ■■■■ everyday thanks to benefits. He used to deliberately park his chair in the way, run peoples feet over and generally make life a pain for others. One day I had a go at him for deliberately running over my girlfriends feet even though he had plenty of space, and he slapped my face. The next thing I know his scouse mate is giving me a hard time like I’d done the slapping. To cut a long story short, davros got barred. The bar staff knew all about his fun and games. If anybody suggested modifying a truck to make it possible for him to drive it, I’d probably puke, then quit in disgust.
But people like Coffeeholic mentioned deserve respect. They don’t whine about it they get on with life.
As do I.
The scheme to train female lorry drivers hit the buffers when it was discovered that none of them had 2 years experience.I worked in a different industry with a lesbian whose twin brother seemed to have feminine traits.Neither of them chose what nature dished up to them.
berewic:
ANDY1961:
Harry Monk:
Olog Hai:
i wonder if any of this thread is going to make it into T&D or the commercial motor?!Well, I hope not because a few of the comments simply reinforce the public’s general perception uf us as simple-mided bigots and morons.
Well said Harry.
It’s frightening how simple-minded some truck drivers can be!
I’m unable to reply to your threads in the manner I would wish, due to warnings from the moderators. I will say however, I’m going to blame it on the government and it’s media. Firstly for inciting my hatred and secondly for brain washing you into compliance. I used to have similar opinions as you, ie, each to his own but since this government have actively campaigned in it’s promotion on this subject and other certain ideologies, I’ve turned more aggressive in my views in attempts to combat their propaganda.
I hate this government with a vengeance and everything it stands for.
Good god! You are blaming the current Labour government for your narrow minded prejudice! Ha, ha - that’s a new one!
I mean if the British National Party were currently in power, I could totally understand someone like you - with your views - being “brainwashed into compliance”!
Although you don’t sound like you need any “inciting” from anyone, or any political party, to express your “views”!
My advice - stay clear of government media and “Truck and Driver”, and buy a some gossip magazines! They’ll help you chill out and lose some of that aggression you’ve built up, to combat Labour’s gay “propaganda” machine (WTF!) .
if they is a growing number of disabled drivers do you think truck stops and services etc will have special parking bays for them closer to the services??
berewic:
One [zb] on the lorries is one [zb] too many. One [zb] in the country is one too many. Being a [zb] is supposed to result from some mental deficiency they can’t control. If these people were castrated, it would solve their problems. I find gay boys as offensive as pedophiles. If a law was introduced making it legal to shoot them stone dead on sight, it would get my total support.
How these perverts can live knowing the public sham they give their parents beggars belief.( derogatory comments removed ) jd
Bet you love a little ■■■■■■■ girl though 
TBH i have no problems working with a marmite miner i used to work with one years ago and he was ok never tried it on with me or my friends and never went about shouting im a puff so no problems with it at all. Funnily enough he did say you would be surprised at how many drivers bat for the other team.
dazaster:
if they is a growing number of disabled drivers do you think truck stops and services etc will have special parking bays for them closer to the services??
No, and the drivers in question probably wouldn’t want them.
limeyphil:
my comments are not politically correct, but they are right.
errrrrm…well that’s a matter of opinion, surely?
i cant stand queers, they make my skin crawl,maybe its because i cant comprehend why a bloke would want a bloke when he could have a fit bird,it beggars belief to me 38ff,s or a hairy chest and man ■■■■■, no contest where im concerened.
but times are changing, my 18 yr old girl has a totally different outlook on people and life in general to her dad, everyones the same to her, be they black , gay , disabled , her best mates a lesbian,her freind at college is gay, i struggle with it ,but to her its all normal , she doesnt hate anyone, there not different, there just mates ,freinds.
ill never change but probally long term her way of viewing people is better than mine
The younger people will probably have to be more open minded about what were taboo subjects to us oldies.We are more mobile than ever now ,when I worked at first my work mates all lived within a few miles of the factory and mostly had known each other for years if not generations.Im happy meeting people of different nationalities.
Havn’t yet found a unit on the motability web-site. But I will keep looking, maybe a new opening for manufacturers that are struggling to sell 'em, flog’em to the cripples, would make it interesting with the disabled bays at the supermarket.
As for gay drivers, whether they exist or not is immaterial, having read that letter i did check the date on the front cover as i thought it was April.
While we going on about minorities can we have a; I’m straight, married, with kids and a mortgage parade, we could run it in conjuction with the gay pride one.
berewic:
I find gay boys as offensive as pedophiles.
Although I’m not one for feeding the troll, I have to say that if you genuinely believe this then you are clearly mentally unstable. People like you are perhaps the ones that ‘want shooting’?
Really, who cares who sticks what in who? It has no bearing on how they do their job.