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Ok fella I’m sure I didn’t make a personal comment about you, I said the new breed of driver was self centred and selfish :exclamation: :exclamation: But if the cap fits you wear it mate :exclamation: :exclamation:

As far as I’m concerned you made a post on this thread about how you carved a job up and got another driver put off his long term run on to something else just so you could get an extra hour at home :exclamation: :exclamation:and then went bleating on about how other drivers sit on there arse or lie on the bunk just dragging the job out because only you has been able to be the honest stand up truck driver and do the job quicker so other drivers, like myself, who don’t agree with the way you work and brag about your work ethics are not up to your standard :question: :exclamation: :unamused:

You might be 34 but it seems youv’e still got a lot to learn :exclamation: :exclamation:

Regards
Dave Penn;

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You’re not coming across well on this one Dave. Why the bad attitude with the bloke?

Stevie

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Stevie, past my bedtime and too much alcohol :wink: :wink:

Regards
Dave Penn;

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Dave.

Far from me to spoil your fun but here is a quote from tylers original post.

To cut along story short the driver was taken off the round & i was put on it, The driver was not happy & is still protesting months later. I find this round so much better then my old round & i can do it easily in 9 1/2 hrs sometimes less. The driver who used to do it has said to me i must be speeding etc to do it in that time & i should slow down but this is not the case. I just like to get on with the job & im not gonna change the way i work because he says so. I have been told by the staff at the different drops that he used to hang it out longer to get overtime but i have a life outside this job that i love so i like to get it done & get home.

I know this isn’t the whole post but where does he say he is carving the run up? The bit in red suggests he doesn’t speed, there is no mention that tyler tips while his tacho is on break mode, and the bit in blue tells me that the guy who used to do those drops would be lacking in some get up and go.

In short I would read that post not so much as tyler cutting the job up more his colleague was dragging the job out. IMHO.

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ady1:

kr79:
You could do it on a route finder without leaving the office

cant see that,i can do the same run 2 days in a row and one day itll take 10 hrs the next 15 hrs, accidents,road works,time to load,time to unload,truck ready,next day its 3 hrs late back.

You will get a rough idea I’m not saying if the computer says 4 hours you will do it in four hours every day

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I like getting the job done and get home. I ain’t paid to sit around or snooze.
My time is way too valuable to me. Why give something for nothing? The boss doesn’t! :unamused:

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tyler4164:
One of our drivers used to do a regular run, torquay, exeter, honiton, dorchester & yeovil. Hes been on this run for almost 8 yrs & was taking about 10 1/2 hrs to do it but sometimes abit longer. Anyway the round was changed slightly because dorchester depot closed & weymouth was added meaning the round was slightly longer. To cut along story short the driver was taken off the round & i was put on it, The driver was not happy & is still protesting months later. I find this round so much better then my old round & i can do it easily in 9 1/2 hrs sometimes less. The driver who used to do it has said to me i must be speeding etc to do it in that time & i should slow down but this is not the case. I just like to get on with the job & im not gonna change the way i work because he says so. I have been told by the staff at the different drops that he used to hang it out longer to get overtime but i have a life outside this job that i love so i like to get it done & get home. I think the driver in question has had it easy & didnt want the bosses finding out just how long this round really takes.
Now i know some of you will probably think im stupid & its people like me who make this job harder for others by getting it done quicker but i dont care. I am paid for 48hrs a week & anything over that is paid at time & a half but theres more to life then money.

I’ve goggled that run of yours. It comes out at 7hrs12mins. Add a 45 on so call it 8 hrs now. Minimum 15mins to check the vehicle at start of day is 8hrs15mins. 10mins for each drop? 9hrs15 mins now. As we all know those google times are car based so take considerably longer in a truck, particularly when you consider much of your route is single carriageway roads! I think your talking bollox now get your mum to dry behind your ears, there’s a good lad.

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44tonne!! Did you seriously google that lot? WOW!!
Tyler! You don’t drive for Tossco then! Speed limited you see!!
I’ve found that most Trolley drivers hang out their shift so as not to get back too early and get another run!! In fact I would bet money on it!! :wink:

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44 Tonne Ton:
How long did you take Toby?

C’mon Toby, you started this!

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Before driving trucks for a living, I used to drive busses, and they’re obviously on a schedule.

Now, lets say you leave depot at 0515, by 0930 you’d be scheduled to have a 47 min break for which you’re not being paid.

To have this break, you’d obviously have to be at the change over point at 0930, so you make sure you are, even if that means driving like a ■■■■■■■ muppet.

Now, 0930 is just after rush hour, so from 0515 - 0730 or so, you’ve had a nice leisurely drive, but from 0730 - 0930 you’ve been driving like your pants are on fire.

Problem I found in busses, was, rather than carry on driving safely and leisurely, too many drivers would exceed the limit, miss people at bus stops etc, so when my bus was pulling in for changeover at 0940, they’d be asking where I was and having to cover the start of my 2nd part of the shift due to lack of break.

The times were impossible, but because drivers used to break the law and drive like maniacs, the company didn’t know that the times were impossible, so drivers actually were their own worst enemy and made the job harder than it had to be.

Now I drive trucks, no real schedule as such and I plod along at the speed limits, take my breaks when req’d etc, I did a run to lower Scotland the other day, and other drivers were telling me how quick then went over the A75 and asked me how quick I went… 40mph I said, that’s the limit (for most of it), they really couldn’t understand why I wasn’t doing 50+ when it’s perfectly safe to do so.
I told them that I was paid by the hour, didn’t get a massive wage at the end of the week and a £60 speeding fine would seriously eat into it, so why would I speed.

Some drivers really are our own worst enemy, racing round, tipping on breaks etc and then they make the law abiding drivers look like they’re dragging it out, when they’re just sticking to the law.

Oh, also I get docked 1hr per day for my dinner, so I take 1hr per day, people have said why not take 45 mins or whatever, and I say why would I work for nothing? If they dock me 45, I’ll take 45, but if they dock me 1hr, I’ll take an hour.

:unamused:

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davepenn54:
Ok fella I’m sure I didn’t make a personal comment about you, I said the new breed of driver was self centred and selfish :exclamation: :exclamation: But if the cap fits you wear it mate :exclamation: :exclamation:

As far as I’m concerned you made a post on this thread about how you carved a job up and got another driver put off his long term run on to something else just so you could get an extra hour at home :exclamation: :exclamation:and then went bleating on about how other drivers sit on there arse or lie on the bunk just dragging the job out because only you has been able to be the honest stand up truck driver and do the job quicker so other drivers, like myself, who don’t agree with the way you work and brag about your work ethics are not up to your standard :question: :exclamation: :unamused:

You might be 34 but it seems youv’e still got a lot to learn :exclamation: :exclamation:

Regards
Dave Penn;

I did not get the last driver taken off, he had been on the run over 7yrs & the bosses had a change about with drivers & routes. They had no idea how long it would take me to do the run they just decided they would mix things up abit. It wasnt about how long it takes or which driver was quicker.

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The same run for severn years :open_mouth: :open_mouth: , i would have gone mad :laughing:

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44 Tonne Ton:

tyler4164:
One of our drivers used to do a regular run, torquay, exeter, honiton, dorchester & yeovil. Hes been on this run for almost 8 yrs & was taking about 10 1/2 hrs to do it but sometimes abit longer. Anyway the round was changed slightly because dorchester depot closed & weymouth was added meaning the round was slightly longer. To cut along story short the driver was taken off the round & i was put on it, The driver was not happy & is still protesting months later. I find this round so much better then my old round & i can do it easily in 9 1/2 hrs sometimes less. The driver who used to do it has said to me i must be speeding etc to do it in that time & i should slow down but this is not the case. I just like to get on with the job & im not gonna change the way i work because he says so. I have been told by the staff at the different drops that he used to hang it out longer to get overtime but i have a life outside this job that i love so i like to get it done & get home. I think the driver in question has had it easy & didnt want the bosses finding out just how long this round really takes.
Now i know some of you will probably think im stupid & its people like me who make this job harder for others by getting it done quicker but i dont care. I am paid for 48hrs a week & anything over that is paid at time & a half but theres more to life then money.

I’ve goggled that run of yours. It comes out at 7hrs12mins. Add a 45 on so call it 8 hrs now. Minimum 15mins to check the vehicle at start of day is 8hrs15mins. 10mins for each drop? 9hrs15 mins now. As we all know those google times are car based so take considerably longer in a truck, particularly when you consider much of your route is single carriageway roads! I think your talking bollox now get your mum to dry behind your ears, there’s a good lad.

If you had checked properly the only major part of single is a35 a37

1, you dont know the exact location of my drops
2, From bristol to torquay is mostly motorway & dual. from torquay to exeter is mostly dual until you get right into exeter, from exeter to honiton is mainly on the a30 so dual, honiton to weymouth is a30 a35 which is single & dual, and from weymouth to yeovil is mainly a35 & a37 so mostly single.
3, sometimes out of my drops in way under 10min as i get priority
4, ive been doing the run for a few months now & know how long it takes & dont care if youve googled it or not, youll only get a good idea of the time it takes by doing it so you cant really comment but your more then welcome to your own opinion.

I just looked on a route planner & it comes out at 6hrs 4min add an hour for time at 5 drops 7hrs 4min add 45min break 7hrs 49min add 15 for morning checks etc 8hrs 4min plus added time for being in a truck so its easy to do it in 9 1/2 hrs thankyou very much cased closed

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tyler4164:

44 Tonne Ton:

tyler4164:
One of our drivers used to do a regular run, torquay, exeter, honiton, dorchester & yeovil. Hes been on this run for almost 8 yrs & was taking about 10 1/2 hrs to do it but sometimes abit longer. Anyway the round was changed slightly because dorchester depot closed & weymouth was added meaning the round was slightly longer. To cut along story short the driver was taken off the round & i was put on it, The driver was not happy & is still protesting months later. I find this round so much better then my old round & i can do it easily in 9 1/2 hrs sometimes less. The driver who used to do it has said to me i must be speeding etc to do it in that time & i should slow down but this is not the case. I just like to get on with the job & im not gonna change the way i work because he says so. I have been told by the staff at the different drops that he used to hang it out longer to get overtime but i have a life outside this job that i love so i like to get it done & get home. I think the driver in question has had it easy & didnt want the bosses finding out just how long this round really takes.
Now i know some of you will probably think im stupid & its people like me who make this job harder for others by getting it done quicker but i dont care. I am paid for 48hrs a week & anything over that is paid at time & a half but theres more to life then money.

I’ve goggled that run of yours. It comes out at 7hrs12mins. Add a 45 on so call it 8 hrs now. Minimum 15mins to check the vehicle at start of day is 8hrs15mins. 10mins for each drop? 9hrs15 mins now. As we all know those google times are car based so take considerably longer in a truck, particularly when you consider much of your route is single carriageway roads! I think your talking bollox now get your mum to dry behind your ears, there’s a good lad.

If you had checked properly the only major part of single is a35 a37

1, you dont know the exact location of my drops
2, From bristol to torquay is mostly motorway & dual. from torquay to exeter is mostly dual until you get right into exeter, from exeter to honiton is mainly on the a30 so dual, honiton to weymouth is a30 a35 which is single & dual, and from weymouth to yeovil is mainly a35 & a37 so mostly single.
3, sometimes out of my drops in way under 10min as i get priority
4, ive been doing the run for a few months now & know how long it takes & dont care if youve googled it or not, youll only get a good idea of the time it takes by doing it so you cant really comment but your more then welcome to your own opinion.

Are you driving a truck on this route?

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44 Tonne Ton:

tyler4164:

44 Tonne Ton:

tyler4164:
One of our drivers used to do a regular run, torquay, exeter, honiton, dorchester & yeovil. Hes been on this run for almost 8 yrs & was taking about 10 1/2 hrs to do it but sometimes abit longer. Anyway the round was changed slightly because dorchester depot closed & weymouth was added meaning the round was slightly longer. To cut along story short the driver was taken off the round & i was put on it, The driver was not happy & is still protesting months later. I find this round so much better then my old round & i can do it easily in 9 1/2 hrs sometimes less. The driver who used to do it has said to me i must be speeding etc to do it in that time & i should slow down but this is not the case. I just like to get on with the job & im not gonna change the way i work because he says so. I have been told by the staff at the different drops that he used to hang it out longer to get overtime but i have a life outside this job that i love so i like to get it done & get home. I think the driver in question has had it easy & didnt want the bosses finding out just how long this round really takes.
Now i know some of you will probably think im stupid & its people like me who make this job harder for others by getting it done quicker but i dont care. I am paid for 48hrs a week & anything over that is paid at time & a half but theres more to life then money.

I’ve goggled that run of yours. It comes out at 7hrs12mins. Add a 45 on so call it 8 hrs now. Minimum 15mins to check the vehicle at start of day is 8hrs15mins. 10mins for each drop? 9hrs15 mins now. As we all know those google times are car based so take considerably longer in a truck, particularly when you consider much of your route is single carriageway roads! I think your talking bollox now get your mum to dry behind your ears, there’s a good lad.

If you had checked properly the only major part of single is a35 a37

1, you dont know the exact location of my drops
2, From bristol to torquay is mostly motorway & dual. from torquay to exeter is mostly dual until you get right into exeter, from exeter to honiton is mainly on the a30 so dual, honiton to weymouth is a30 a35 which is single & dual, and from weymouth to yeovil is mainly a35 & a37 so mostly single.
3, sometimes out of my drops in way under 10min as i get priority
4, ive been doing the run for a few months now & know how long it takes & dont care if youve googled it or not, youll only get a good idea of the time it takes by doing it so you cant really comment but your more then welcome to your own opinion.

Are you driving a truck on this route?

YES

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Give us the post codes then! Still talking bollox though!

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44 Tonne Ton:
Give us the post codes then! Still talking bollox though!

I just looked on a route planner & it comes out at 6hrs 4min add an hour for time at 5 drops 7hrs 4min add 45min break 7hrs 49min add 15 for morning checks etc 8hrs 4min plus added time for being in a truck so its easy to do it in 9 1/2 hrs thankyou very much cased closed

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tyler4164:

44 Tonne Ton:
Give us the post codes then! Still talking bollox though!

I just looked on a route planner & it comes out at 6hrs 4min add an hour for time at 5 drops 7hrs 4min add 45min break 7hrs 49min add 15 for morning checks etc 8hrs 4min plus added time for being in a truck so its easy to do it in 9 1/2 hrs thankyou very much cased closed

Well, we’ve only got your word for that. I googled the places you mentioned and it came out at 7hrs12mins but I rearranged it and got 6hrs52. I smell…[zb]

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44 Tonne Ton:

tyler4164:

44 Tonne Ton:
Give us the post codes then! Still talking bollox though!

I just looked on a route planner & it comes out at 6hrs 4min add an hour for time at 5 drops 7hrs 4min add 45min break 7hrs 49min add 15 for morning checks etc 8hrs 4min plus added time for being in a truck so its easy to do it in 9 1/2 hrs thankyou very much cased closed

Well, we’ve only got your word for that. I googled the places you mentioned and it came out at 7hrs12mins but I rearranged it and got 6hrs52. I smell…0

Dave, move up there’s someone else coming to sit with you in the naughty corner!! :smiley: :smiley:

Stevie

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davepenn54:
34 :exclamation: :exclamation: And you havn’t had a stroke or heart attack yet :question: :question: :unamused:
But just as I thought one of the new breed of ‘truck drivers’ :exclamation: :exclamation:

And just by the by I reckon I could take 30mins off any run you do :laughing: :laughing: :wink:
Experience ‘you know it makes sense’ :laughing: :laughing: :unamused: :wink: :wink:

Regards
Dave Penn;

Dave mate, you are wasting your time by banging your head against the wall. You know that this job has been in a constant downward spiral for the last god knows how many years by these guys by carving good jobs up, working holidays for single time, trading holidays for spotlights ( :open_mouth: ffs), giving up things willingly that past generations have fought tooth & nail for,( and then trying to justify it by repeating company BS) and the list goes on. Just do what I do, that is do your job, shake your head and say nowt, and look at them with the contempt they deserve, and tell yourself they WILL eventually learn.