Stupid wreckless driver

[msgyorkie]

dazamc1983:

msgyorkie:

dazamc1983:

Silver_Surfer:
I accept your point, the truckers an idiot & a menace, we get it.

He could have been tailgating our mother or our wife with the kids in the car, there is no excuse for it. This type of thing does happen regularly unfortunately from the ■■■■■■ brigade.

Now, after all the discussion and in hindsight with preperation for the next time this happens, would YOU have done anything differently?

yeah and if it was your mother,wife or kids how would you feel towards this so called driver mate?bloody angry like me i suppose?the thing people arent getting i couldnt do anything but stay at the speed and position i was in because if i overtook i was facing oncoming traffic,slowed down this truck was not stopping and would defo smash into my car.what i was trying to say but everyone thought i was a just another car driver trying to stir the [zb] was why do proffesional drivers of all kinds im not just saying truck drivers ok even car drivers for that sake why drive so dangerous in the first place?its peoples lives at risk if anything should or does go wrong,simple as that.but its not a very nice experience when anybody tailgates you and i think it would be a good idea to penalise these responsible for doing it.

Personally I think you are a ■■■…all you had to do was speed up a tad to 60 mph, you ain’t breaking the law and you would soon pull away from the Pratt leaving him in the distance. But no you are one of the many jobs that cruise at 45-50 mph and cause massive tailbacks and frustration for all!

Well i think you should shut the hell up,you dont know me so how can you judge me.how could i of sped right up when there vehicles up ahead of me,i couldnt pull away from this driver or i would of.do you think i like vehicles tailgating me is that what your implying?suppose your one on them drivers that think its alright to drive like that are you?

hell yeah, in fact I want a snow plough on my wagon so I can clear the road of numpties like you

[mickyblue]

msgyorkie you will put the troll in hospital if you keep feeding him to much.

[gardun]

dazamc1983:

how could i of sped right up when there vehicles up ahead of me,i couldnt pull away from this driver or i would of.

dazamc1983:
slow down are you for real?i was speeding up cos this idiot was nearly in the back of my car.

Sorry, I’m a bit slow - which of the above is actually true?

[socketset]

I’d really like to follow this thread but unfortunately I have to go to the kitchen because I think my spice rack isn’t in alphabetical order

[wiretwister]

albion1971:

Wiretwister:
Frankly the OP is not that credible as the number of changes made from the outset, the increasing hostility to an alternative view (even when I’ve seen only 1 post that I would consider to condone the alleged tailgating in any way) and when he claims to have a class 1 and ADR is unable to take defensive measures to protect those who, one would imagine, would be more precious than any cargo he might move in a professional capacity. Much of this stinks as Alix suggested on page 1.

Just for the record, so it is clear, so there is no lack of clarity IN MY OPINION TAILGATING IS WRONG

Do you really think every vocational license holder is capable of taking defensive measures in any given situation.
There are plenty drivers who hold an LGV licence and have had little or no experience.
I know because I trained a lot of them when they were in the armed forces.
Anyway even if the story is true or not tailgating is a regular occurance on our roads now and as usual on this forum posters try to switch the blame any way they can.
It is pathetic.

Self evidently not, but what are you suggesting as a solution? By your own statement you have trained many yourself (3rd sentence)the eternal problem is how do you get experience without actually doing that in which you need experience.

As to the truth or otherwise we only have one side of this incident so even if the one account we have is true it is unlikely, I contend, the be the whole truth.

[simon]

mickyblue:
Type in west moor in google. Have a look at the maps and tell me what sort of a1 it is.

I stand to be corrected but dont the A1 go sc near to scotland?

According to Google, West Moor is South of the A19 junction with the A1, near Wide Open.
The A1 changes from s/c to d/c just North of Morpeth. It chops and changes between s/c and d/c Northbound from Morpeth all the way up to Spott.
From Morpeth South the A1 is d/c and M/way all the way to London.
Morpeth to the A19 split is around 15 minutes driving in a wagon, all on d/c.
The A19 is also d/c, from the A1 split down nearly to York.
I don’t think West Moor is sign posted off the A1, or the A19, it’s too small. The other main roads around there are the A189 and A188, both of which are d/c. They probably do have West Moor signed.

Either the original poster wasn’t on the A1 at all when this occurred, or he was nowhere near West Moor. Even if he was near West Moor, the main roads you would use to get to it from the A1 are d/cs.

I find myself questioning if this incident occurred at all, unless it was rush hour. Everyone tailgates everyone else a 5mph, it’s fairly safe at that speed provided that you’re paying attention.

[solly]

I don’t get the post-mortem into where West Moor is or isn’t! Or what class of road the OP was travelling on!

The thread is about a “Stupid reckless driver” in a 44t wagon trying to be clever and downright dangerous, bullying another motorist.
Now I believe the question we have to ask ourselves is this: Is this behaviour…tailgating… by a wagon driver in this instance…acceptable no matter which road he is on?.
As I’ve said before, if you think it is, then you should consider handing in your license, because you are not a fit and proper person to be in charge of a vehicle on the road. Especially a 44t HGV.

[fatboy_slimslow]

Solly:
As I’ve said before, if you think it is, then you should consider handing in your license, because you are not a fit and proper person to be in charge of a vehicle on the road. Especially a 44t HGV.

jeremy clarkson said " we’re all murderers! " I’ve just finished watching road kill where’s them pesky car drivers doing 54 mph on the motorway■■?

[silver_surfer]

So, you’re saying if you slowed down gradually with your hazards on this guy would have deliberately rammed you?

I give up.

[solly]

Silver_Surfer:
So, you’re saying if you slowed down gradually with your hazards on this guy would have deliberately rammed you?
I give up.

Forget about the defensive smile at the end of his comment…SS…but it appears this ?driver? would do exactly that. Hope this answers your question.

msgyorkie:
hell yeah, in fact I want a snow plough on my wagon so I can clear the road of numpties like you

[solly]

Fatboy slimslow:

Solly:
As I’ve said before, if you think it is, then you should consider handing in your license, because you are not a fit and proper person to be in charge of a vehicle on the road. Especially a 44t HGV.

jeremy clarkson said " we’re all murderers! " I’ve just finished watching road kill where’s them pesky car drivers doing 54 mph on the motorway■■?

Yeah right!

[dazamc1983]

mickyblue:
msgyorkie you will put the troll in hospital if you keep feeding him to much.

very funny mate.

[dazamc1983]

Simon:

mickyblue:
Type in west moor in google. Have a look at the maps and tell me what sort of a1 it is.

I stand to be corrected but dont the A1 go sc near to scotland?

According to Google, West Moor is South of the A19 junction with the A1, near Wide Open.
The A1 changes from s/c to d/c just North of Morpeth. It chops and changes between s/c and d/c Northbound from Morpeth all the way up to Spott.
From Morpeth South the A1 is d/c and M/way all the way to London.
Morpeth to the A19 split is around 15 minutes driving in a wagon, all on d/c.
The A19 is also d/c, from the A1 split down nearly to York.
I don’t think West Moor is sign posted off the A1, or the A19, it’s too small. The other main roads around there are the A189 and A188, both of which are d/c. They probably do have West Moor signed.

Either the original poster wasn’t on the A1 at all when this occurred, or he was nowhere near West Moor. Even if he was near West Moor, the main roads you would use to get to it from the A1 are d/cs.

I find myself questioning if this incident occurred at all, unless it was rush hour. Everyone tailgates everyone else a 5mph, it’s fairly safe at that speed provided that you’re paying attention.

yes i know where west moor in Tyneside is.this west moor is just off the A1 no its not signposted cos its only a small village if you call it that.youve just answered everyones question about the A1 not being a s/c road.you said it chops and changes sc to dc so thank you for clearing that up for all of them that were calling me a liar.What you think i made everything up regarding the incident?sorry but your wrong mate.this driver was tailgating me at speed not 5mph,so does that make it safe driving then?

[dazamc1983]

Wiretwister:

albion1971:

Wiretwister:
Frankly the OP is not that credible as the number of changes made from the outset, the increasing hostility to an alternative view (even when I’ve seen only 1 post that I would consider to condone the alleged tailgating in any way) and when he claims to have a class 1 and ADR is unable to take defensive measures to protect those who, one would imagine, would be more precious than any cargo he might move in a professional capacity. Much of this stinks as Alix suggested on page 1.

Just for the record, so it is clear, so there is no lack of clarity IN MY OPINION TAILGATING IS WRONG

Do you really think every vocational license holder is capable of taking defensive measures in any given situation.
There are plenty drivers who hold an LGV licence and have had little or no experience.
I know because I trained a lot of them when they were in the armed forces.
Anyway even if the story is true or not tailgating is a regular occurance on our roads now and as usual on this forum posters try to switch the blame any way they can.
It is pathetic.

Self evidently not, but what are you suggesting as a solution? By your own statement you have trained many yourself (3rd sentence)the eternal problem is how do you get experience without actually doing that in which you need experience.

As to the truth or otherwise we only have one side of this incident so even if the one account we have is true it is unlikely, I contend, the be the whole truth.

well the company emailed me back saying talking to this driver he was warning me of a brake light out.i would love for the driver to get his side across because it doesnt alter the fact he was driving like a ■■■■ does it?

[eastangliantrucker]

Solly:
I don’t get the post-mortem into where West Moor is or isn’t! Or what class of road the OP was travelling on!

The thread is about a “Stupid reckless driver” in a 44t wagon trying to be clever and downright dangerous, bullying another motorist.
Now I believe the question we have to ask ourselves is this: Is this behaviour…tailgating… by a wagon driver in this instance…acceptable no matter which road he is on?.
As I’ve said before, if you think it is, then you should consider handing in your license, because you are not a fit and proper person to be in charge of a vehicle on the road. Especially a 44t HGV.

I can’t for the life of me find any replies to this thread, that suggest it is acceptable to tailgate in any vehicle, let alone an HGV, so that puts an end to that part of the problem.

The other, perhaps more relevant part of this thread, is the consistency and integrity, or otherwise, of the original posters story. There appears to be some question as to whether the A1 is S/C or D/C, or indeed motorway, at the point where the OP says this “tailgating” took place.

Given that there are several differences of agreement about the type of road, it is perfectly in order to question whether what the OP has posted actually happened or was a figment of a fevered imagination!

It seems to me that the original story has been somewhat “embroidered” as the veracity of the thread has been called into question. And still there appears to be no credible answer as to why the OP allowed an HGV to intimidate him and his loved ones for so long, before taking avoiding action either by stopping, or pulling off or slowing down so the offending wagon could overtake and continue on its way.

There have been many drivers on here condemning tailgating, but unfortunately it still happens. The industry like every other industry has it’s bad apples, but that doesn’t mean to say every HGV driver is a cowboy who wants to tailgate and intimidate all car drivers.

Given the evidence of this post, I too would question the truth of what went on. And as we’ve only heard the story from one perspective, there’s not a lot more that can be said, that hasn’t been said already. However, if the OP keeps changing the story, and the bandwagon keeps rolling, trolls will keep jumping onto it.

Is the OP still alive after his traumatic incident on whatever road it was that this heinous crime took place? Yes! Excellent news! Can we move on now? Please?

[dazamc1983]

EastAnglianTrucker:

Solly:
I don’t get the post-mortem into where West Moor is or isn’t! Or what class of road the OP was travelling on!

The thread is about a “Stupid reckless driver” in a 44t wagon trying to be clever and downright dangerous, bullying another motorist.
Now I believe the question we have to ask ourselves is this: Is this behaviour…tailgating… by a wagon driver in this instance…acceptable no matter which road he is on?.
As I’ve said before, if you think it is, then you should consider handing in your license, because you are not a fit and proper person to be in charge of a vehicle on the road. Especially a 44t HGV.

I can’t for the life of me find any replies to this thread, that suggest it is acceptable to tailgate in any vehicle, let alone an HGV, so that puts an end to that part of the problem.

The other, perhaps more relevant part of this thread, is the consistency and integrity, or otherwise, of the original posters story. There appears to be some question as to whether the A1 is S/C or D/C, or indeed motorway, at the point where the OP says this “tailgating” took place.

Given that there are several differences of agreement about the type of road, it is perfectly in order to question whether what the OP has posted actually happened or was a figment of a fevered imagination!

It seems to me that the original story has been somewhat “embroidered” as the veracity of the thread has been called into question. And still there appears to be no credible answer as to why the OP allowed an HGV to intimidate him and his loved ones for so long, before taking avoiding action either by stopping, or pulling off or slowing down so the offending wagon could overtake and continue on its way.

There have been many drivers on here condemning tailgating, but unfortunately it still happens. The industry like every other industry has it’s bad apples, but that doesn’t mean to say every HGV driver is a cowboy who wants to tailgate and intimidate all car drivers.

Given the evidence of this post, I too would question the truth of what went on. And as we’ve only heard the story from one perspective, there’s not a lot more that can be said, that hasn’t been said already. However, if the OP keeps changing the story, and the bandwagon keeps rolling, trolls will keep jumping onto it.

Is the OP still alive after his traumatic incident on whatever road it was that this heinous crime took place? Yes! Excellent news! Can we move on now? Please?

well ill clear afew things up for you will i?the road was part of the A1,A SINGLE CARRIAGEWAY road which ive already mentioned NEAR TO WEST MOOR.This incident DID place how hard is it for yous to take it in?I never once mentioned EVERY DRIVER to be an idiotic crash causing menace or tailgater but the driver i experienced was intimidating and an idiot simple as that.you can question whatever you like but the truth was this driver was driving erractically.i would love nothing more than this driver to speak of the incident of what happened that day,because how the hell can he explain his dangerous actions?Yes im still alive as is my family thank you very much, what your forgetting mate what would be your feelings to this driver if it was your family answer me that.?ah its ok because hes late or he never killed us so its justified.get real man will ya yous are ment to be PROFFESIONAL DRIVERS.What if this driver caused fatalities then mate,would everyone still be blaming me for not getting out of the situation?yes lets move on.

[solly]

EastAnglianTrucker:
I can’t for the life of me find any replies to this thread, that suggest it is acceptable to tailgate in any vehicle, let alone an HGV, so that puts an end to that part of the problem.

Solly:
I don’t get the post-mortem into where West Moor is or isn’t! Or what class of road the OP was travelling on!

The thread is about a “Stupid Wreckless driver” in a 44t wagon trying to be clever and downright dangerous, bullying another motorist.
Now I believe the question we have to ask ourselves is this: Is this behaviour…tailgating… by a wagon driver in this instance…acceptable no matter which road he is on?.
As I’ve said before, if you think it is, then you should consider handing in your license, because you are not a fit and proper person to be in charge of a vehicle on the road. Especially a 44t HGV.

There you go. FTFY.

msgyorkie:
hell yeah, in fact I want a snow plough on my wagon so I can clear the road of numpties like you

In his reply to the OP this fella thinks it’s acceptable.
Over and out.

[dazamc1983]

The sooner the better a law comes into driving regarding tailgating then some drivers might take note and not drive like a ■■■■■

[roadsrat]

Sounds similiar to the “professional” driver on the (speed camera enforced) variable speed limit section of the M6 on Tuesday night.

Speed limit signs set to 50 mph, yet some truck driving cretin proceeded to tailgate and repeatedly flash his lights at the car doing 50 mph. Once the car had completed its overtake and returned to lane 1, said cretin then proceeded to block the car by staying right beside it in lane 2.

Justice was serviced when the speed limit reverted back to 70 mph, and the car accelerated off leaving the truck standing still in lane 2.

[eastangliantrucker]

dazamc1983:
well ill clear afew things up for you will i?the road was part of the A1,A SINGLE CARRIAGEWAY road which ive already mentioned NEAR TO WEST MOOR.

Well there’s a problem straight away. The nearest single carriageway part of the A1 to West Moor is 16 miles to the north, which is effectively Morpeth. At West Moor, it is dual carriageway south for a further 14 miles where it becomes the A1M.

If you say it happened then I have no proof that what you say is wrong, but the fact that your description doesn’t fit the known facts of the type of road, does bring your story into question.

dazamc1983:
This incident DID place how hard is it for yous to take it in?I never once mentioned EVERY DRIVER to be an idiotic crash causing menace or tailgater but the driver i experienced was intimidating and an idiot simple as that.you can question whatever you like but the truth was this driver was driving erractically.i would love nothing more than this driver to speak of the incident of what happened that day,because how the hell can he explain his dangerous actions?Yes im still alive as is my family thank you very much, what your forgetting mate what would be your feelings to this driver if it was your family answer me that.?

Given the circumstances you describe, I would have either; a.) accelerated away from this dangerous psychopath to avoid him putting my family in danger, b.) allowed him to overtake (see comment about the structure of the A1 “NEAR TO WEST MOOR”) so he was no longer a danger to my family, or c.) pulled off the A1 so he was no longer a danger to my family.

dazamc1983:
ah its ok because hes late or he never killed us so its justified.get real man will ya yous are ment to be PROFFESIONAL DRIVERS.What if this driver caused fatalities then mate,would everyone still be blaming me for not getting out of the situation?yes lets move on.

I didn’t write anything about justifying this driver’s alleged actions. In fact, I’ve gone to extreme lengths, as have others on this thread, to condemn both tailgating in general, and the actions you claim happened.

In addition, given the known fact that the A1 is dual carriageway for a long way both north and south of West Moor, many “professional” drivers responding to this thread, are still expecting a credible explanation as to why you didn’t try to get out of this dangerous situation you found yourself in.

If this driver had caused fatalities due to the actions you allege took place, then he would have been investigated according to the law, and no doubt dealt with.

Unfortunately, you make the integrity of your own post questionable due to your own description of the situation.

And in addition, from a personal point of view, your increasingly hysterical attempts to redesign the A1 “NEAR TO WEST MOOR” and your apparent desire to attack everyone who asks the inevitable questions and asks for a credible explanation for your actions.

You may not like the answers mate, but that doesn’t make them any less valid!