bubsy06:
Coffeeholic:
bubsy06:
Its just a scam to attract fan boys, they are the only ones dull and desperate enough to pay 12k to drive a stoabrt truckAdy1 thought this scam, sorry scheme; ■■■■ you auto correct, was a great idea so just exactly what are you implying?
Really, oh can I retract my post? if he thinks its a great idea then Im off to my bank on Monday to get a loan.
can i have that in writing as i get £25 for every driver i attract to the o/d scheme,thanks busby 
jonesrob1122:
stay well clear stobart is in trouble, and they wont be around by the end of the year, they are loosing contracts by the day and they cant even afford to run there own trucks, tesco want them gone and tesco have stopped selling them fuel at cost, and wont underwrite any more loans for the trucks, and Norberts will be running the show your just wait and see norbert said years ago they would [zb] stobarts and its happening,
rubbish,i was handed a holiday request form today,2012- MARCHTWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN ,
Mike-C:
AlexWignall:
I think repton had it right in a later reply that the whole ‘is it legal?’ debate is a red herring.I wouldn’t be so sure. The companies he says have been doing it are not transport companies per se, they just contract out the haulage to OD’s. Stobarts is obviously a transport company and has just laid off men and are looking to replace them directly with franchisees.
not stricktly true mike,theyve laid off some drivers and there work is now being covered by esl drivers/trampers
if they can make it pay,why give it away?
bubsy06:
Bewick:
Look lads ,in all transport operations ,no matter what size,there is a certain % of crap jobs/traffic that has to be done in order to keep the good traffic.it would appear that “fast eddie” has finally “tumbled” to this fact !! So what he will be attempting to achieve is create two fleets,one “company owned” and a secondary one made up of “franchisees”.So guess which fleet will be operated on the better rated traffic( if this is possible in the “fast eddie” group),minimal empty running ect ect,and which fleet will get all the crappy jobs,m/t running,waiting time ect. ect.So at a stroke “fast eddie” has improved the performance of the “company” fleet AND has managed to dump all the crap onto the “franchisee” O/D fleet AND,wait for it,make money by way of a slice of the crappy job which formerly had lost them(ESL) money.That is until the “franchisees” start “folding” and the proverbial hits the fan !! Someone on an earlier thread suggested it would be similar to a Tipper “franchise”,but a tipper invariably runs from point A to point B and back to point A empty,easy peasy!!! But “fast eddie” is a UK wide multi customer operator so it would be nothing like a tipper operation.There is obviously a lot more to this “offer” than immediately crosses the mind and no doubt the “fine print” of the aggreement will be “onerous” to say the least and will probably need a Joderel Bank telescope to read it and a Philledelphia lawyer to understand the lingo,but hey! we live in the modern world with all the attendant technology,so the day’s of a “binding handshake” are long gone and I wouldn’t like to chance my fingers with the “chuckle brothers” !!This is just my take on the matter and no doubt someone will have an equal ,and opposite,opinion to mine Cheers Bewick.Probably ady12000
it was 5,000 when i wanted to do it
merc0447:
I also heard not one sinlge core driver took the option, christ knows who they’ll attract with adverts in the sun.
no because it wasnt open to all drivers,so how can you take the option if its not open to you
Don’t get me wrong here, I have zero interest in the Stobart empire but I’m not going to slag them off either…
I’m surprised no-one has pointed out the hauliers that already sub for them with their lorries dressed in the jolly green giant vest…
I believe there are a few that have more than one truck or even the whole fleet working for Stobart.
Presumably they are making a living from it?
Are they a shining example that could be used?
Surely this will affect their workload as well?
It isn’t just the Stobart fleet that is going to affect/be affected by this franchise scheme…
ady1:
Mike-C:
AlexWignall:
I think repton had it right in a later reply that the whole ‘is it legal?’ debate is a red herring.I wouldn’t be so sure. The companies he says have been doing it are not transport companies per se, they just contract out the haulage to OD’s. Stobarts is obviously a transport company and has just laid off men and are looking to replace them directly with franchisees.
not stricktly true mike,theyve laid off some drivers and there work is now being covered by esl drivers/trampers
yeah i think i understand it a bit more now. By offering the guys made redundant the option of the OD route i guess they’ve covered their ■■■.
ady1:
jonesrob1122:
stay well clear stobart is in trouble, and they wont be around by the end of the year, they are loosing contracts by the day and they cant even afford to run there own trucks, tesco want them gone and tesco have stopped selling them fuel at cost, and wont underwrite any more loans for the trucks, and Norberts will be running the show your just wait and see norbert said years ago they would [zb] stobarts and its happening,rubbish,i was handed a holiday request form today,2012- MARCHTWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN ,
that doesnt mean anything your a driver your be the last to find out and all they do it call youin one day and tell you to empty the truck
It’s all falling into place now, this is what the “Eddie Stobart Trucks and Trailers” TV series was for, just a giant 30 minute advert designed to appeal to every frightened member of the newly unemployed clutching a £12,000 redundancy cheque. Just the fact that Stobart are advertising it in the tabloid press rather than in Trade Publications shows that their target audience is the 95% of the population who do not work in the transport industry.
If it were any good why spend a few grand on an advert in the scum, as we all know the best things in life are always sought after and never ever marketed.
What,s wrong with you alI?? I,ve just read the advert and it sounds like a good deal,and an excellent way to make a lot of money.
IF YOUR NAME IS STOBART OR TINKLER 
I shall put it short & simple for the short & simple people…Don’t
if youve got "12 large" spare,then youre doing allright anyway, so why change anything 
ady1:
jonesrob1122:
stay well clear stobart is in trouble, and they wont be around by the end of the year, they are loosing contracts by the day and they cant even afford to run there own trucks, tesco want them gone and tesco have stopped selling them fuel at cost, and wont underwrite any more loans for the trucks, and Norberts will be running the show your just wait and see norbert said years ago they would [zb] stobarts and its happening,rubbish,i was handed a holiday request form today,2012- MARCHTWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN ,
That is good news because of course it is impossible, not to mention illegal for a company to belly up before the date they printed on the holiday request forms.
I hope this helps.
It’s astonishing that this advert has generated so much comment - a 6 page thread, generally slagging off Stobart’s and their franchise offering.
What I’d like to understand is, given the only information available about the deal is on the advert itself. How do you know that it’s a bad deal, Stobart hating and all aside
MAT:
It’s astonishing that this advert has generated so much comment - a 6 page thread, generally slagging off Stobart’s and their franchise offering.What I’d like to understand is, given the only information available about the deal is on the advert itself. How do you know that it’s a bad deal, Stobart hating and all aside
This is TruckNet, we don’t worry about little things like knowing stuff before wading in.
Or what commonrail is going to say below.
I hope this helps.
if the trucks were making money,why would they give any of it to you…you don`t get rid of good buisness…end of 
With a franchise you should be able to build your own business up and generate your own jobs. Would be interesting to see if this was the case.
If it was such a good deal then I would have thought that someone from stobarts would have been on here selling the benefits to potential drivers.
