What’s going on? I thought he was getting rid of trampers etc?
Or is this his new way forward in the future…
Eventually sub’ EVERYTHING out to O/D’s for silly rates, no fleets to worry about etc??
Would you do it though ■■..
Long thread about this from a couple of months or so ago on here somewhere…
In simple terms it’s a way of getting drivers currently employed by Stobart to pay all the costs involved in running the truck for them while pretending to be owner drivers.
He can not make it pay enough so he farms it out to a new od who will do that litte extra,new trucks are getting pricey so let some one else have the worry.
So Stobarts want to turn the firm into a “administrative planner & backload organiser firm” a bit like a minicab office?
If drivers are taking all the financial & physical risks, why don’t we just do away with transport clerks, and get the wife at home to join your “limited company” and organise all your loads whilst you drive them around with your own wagon?
Perhaps THIS is the future of transport?
Are not managers & office staff only there to screw up a system that wasn’t actually broken to start with?
I’ve seen a few “husband and wife” Germans & low countries double manning an arrival at depots where I’ve worked. Maybe the “family business” needs to go back to being that… Stobarts are have got to big to care maybe…
its been posted on another thread that the depots are closing to make some super depot
trampers were offered a chance to take on the offer from stobarts but dont know how many did, so then stobart lays off all the trampers or puts them on shifts, then advertise for franchise drivers. stobarts cant afford to keep wagons parked up for 11/9 hours a day so they want someone else to do it for them.
I cant imagine a worse set up to rely on for support while being away all week. A tramper needs somewhere decent to park[paid for!!!] with mechanical breakdown support and a decent wage its not the rosy old job it used to be and backup is important. I cant imagine many people prepared to make the financial commitment as an individual, if they as a group cant justify it how can one man with all the unshared expense be expected to do it? The mind boggles, all you will be doing is burning yourself out financially and mentally while giving them contingency, will all mugs take one step forward
So, let’s get this straight, they offer the Owner Driver option to all their own trampers, most refuse. Stobarts then get the hump and sack loads of their employed trampers and put this advert in the Sun newspaper. Most petulant.
fuse:
He can not make it pay enough so he farms it out to a new od who will do that litte extra,new trucks are getting pricey so let some one else have the worry.
The problem with all businesses that rely on machinery to earn a living is that the purchase and running costs have become prohibitive to earning a profit.
Silver_Surfer:
So, let’s get this straight, they offer the Owner Driver option to all their own trampers, most refuse. Stobarts then get the hump and sack loads of their employed trampers and put this advert in the Sun newspaper. Most petulant.
That’s it in a nutshell but I haven’t heard of any trampers that took this option so what does that tell you?
Very negative response lads !! If you fully digest all the crap that is spouted in support of “fast eddie” on other threads you have got believe that this very “generous” offer to become a Franchisee with the Company that invented “road transport” is too good an opertunity to pass up, in fact at this very moment,it is almost certain that the “offer” will have been oversubscribed many times so for every 10 applicants 9 will be extremely disappointed to have missed out on what will no doubt be proved to be a very lucrative opertunity for the successful applicants.All “fast eddie” is doing is giving the Franchisees an opertunity to share in their goodfortune as the UK’s “greatest providers of Logistics ever” having always ran for the highest rates,refusing to reduce rates to gain traffic and generally paying the highest wages in the industry,so why shouldn’t they offer O/D’s an opertunity to replicate the “fast eddie” business model.There’s no way it will fail,success is guaranteed,“fast eddie” say’s so!! Cheers Bewick.
All those ES trampers being laid off… Are any up for a 5 figure redundancy payment?
If so, what’s the betting that some of those same drivers have been offered a second hand truck with a girl’s name scratched out on it for their “settlement” in lieu of a cash payment?
They’ll be told “There’s no tax to pay! - Aren’t you the lucky one!?”
Bewick:
Very negative response lads !! If you fully digest all the crap that is spouted in support of “fast eddie” on other threads you have got believe that this very “generous” offer to become a Franchisee with the Company that invented “road transport” is too good an opertunity to pass up, in fact at this very moment,it is almost certain that the “offer” will have been oversubscribed many times so for every 10 applicants 9 will be extremely disappointed to have missed out on what will no doubt be proved to be a very lucrative opertunity for the successful applicants.All “fast eddie” is doing is giving the Franchisees an opertunity to share in their goodfortune as the UK’s “greatest providers of Logistics ever” having always ran for the highest rates,refusing to reduce rates to gain traffic and generally paying the highest wages in the industry,so why shouldn’t they offer O/D’s an opertunity to replicate the “fast eddie” business model.There’s no way it will fail,success is guaranteed,“fast eddie” say’s so!! Cheers Bewick.
Blimey Bewick I think I’ll take the job on and then sub it out to you.
fuse:
He can not make it pay enough so he farms it out to a new od who will do that litte extra,new trucks are getting pricey so let some one else have the worry.
The problem with all businesses that rely on machinery to earn a living is that the purchase and running costs have become prohibitive to earning a profit.
This doesn’t make any sense. ‘purchase and running costs’ are all tax deductable. Stobarts would appear to certainley be good for the credit, and if they are still running staff and trucks for profit (whch they are) then it makes no sense that they are subbing out to owner drivers because its prohibitive to earning a profit. There has to be another reason why they would ditch employees in favour of ‘franchisees’ or ‘owner drivers’, many of us can guess but we don;t really know!!
fuse:
He can not make it pay enough so he farms it out to a new od who will do that litte extra,new trucks are getting pricey so let some one else have the worry.
The problem with all businesses that rely on machinery to earn a living is that the purchase and running costs have become prohibitive to earning a profit.
This doesn’t make any sense. ‘purchase and running costs’ are all tax deductable. Stobarts would appear to certainley be good for the credit, and if they are still running staff and trucks for profit (whch they are) then it makes no sense that they are subbing out to owner drivers because its prohibitive to earning a profit. There has to be another reason why they would ditch employees in favour of ‘franchisees’ or ‘owner drivers’, many of us can guess but we don;t really know!!