One more thing that’s needs clearing with the ferry/train mode. It’s meant to be used when you are on the ferry/train. Not on the yards waiting! then it’s just rest.
Simply put, when you arrive at the harbor / train station you put the tacho on rest and put in end country. say you get 2h rest
After you have boarded the ferry/train you put the tacho on “ferry mode”. say we get 6h rest here
When at port even if it’s a new country you do NOT put in start country since our daily rest aren’t finished and we are forced to take 3 more hours of rest before we can begin our new shift, now we are just driving of the ferry to get a rest (max 1h). After we have rested the minimum of 3 more hours and we begin our new shift we put in start country.
But I do have one thing that’s unclear. The time used while boarding, disembarking the ferry/train. Were is it supposed to be put? Some say it’s supposed to be put on the day we are At’s driving time. but that’s confusing. When those that end? after midnight? witch midnight, UTC midnight or the country you are At’s midnight? A lot of ferry crossings are also passing time zones, is the time used while boarding to be put on that days driving time then and if it’s after midnight local time in the new country to be put on the next days driving time?
If you ask me it should be only counted to the weekly driving time but I can’t find any good documents on it.
But I do have one thing that’s unclear. The time used while boarding, disembarking the ferry/train. Were is it supposed to be put? Some say it’s supposed to be put on the day we are At’s driving time. but that’s confusing. When those that end? after midnight? witch midnight, UTC midnight or the country you are At’s midnight? A lot of ferry crossings are also passing time zones, is the time used while boarding to be put on that days driving time then and if it’s after midnight local time in the new country to be put on the next days driving time?
If you ask me it should be only counted to the weekly driving time but I can’t find any good documents on it.
But I do have one thing that’s unclear. The time used while boarding, disembarking the ferry/train. Were is it supposed to be put? Some say it’s supposed to be put on the day we are At’s driving time. but that’s confusing. When those that end? after midnight? witch midnight, UTC midnight or the country you are At’s midnight? A lot of ferry crossings are also passing time zones, is the time used while boarding to be put on that days driving time then and if it’s after midnight local time in the new country to be put on the next days driving time?
If you ask me it should be only counted to the weekly driving time but I can’t find any good documents on it.
I would like to rather have the article from the Eu commission, that article could be written by some random guy witch won’t be enough when dealing with the law. What’s the source on that article.
Just passing on what I know. Personally I just add it to the driving of the day before, Ive no intention of driving for up to an hour in the night for nothing extra and don’t fancy doing 11 hours driving regularly
Icee:
One more thing that’s needs clearing with the ferry/train mode. It’s meant to be used when you are on the ferry/train. Not on the yards waiting! then it’s just rest.
The ferry option is selected as you begin the interruption so either on the quayside just before moving to board or on the ferry just before disembarking. That way it marks the data with the reason you are interrupting your daily rest.
Icee:
Simply put, when you arrive at the harbor / train station you put the tacho on rest and put in end country. say you get 2h rest
After you have boarded the ferry/train you put the tacho on “ferry mode”.
You cannot put the tacho on ferry mode, there is no such mode. Once you have boarded the ferry you switch the tacho to rest to continue to record your daily rest period. Selecting the ferry option at this time will do nothing because at that point you will have finished the interruption.
That feature is nothing to do with showing you are on a ferry or train, which there is no requirement anywhere in the regulations to record. The procedure is simple.
Arrive in port
Book on
Park up
Switch tacho to rest and select end country to begin daily rest
Boarding begins
Switch tacho to other work and select ferry/train option to mark data with reason for interruption to daily rest
Board
Switch tacho to rest to continue daily rest period
Ready to disembark switch tacho to other work
if you’ve had a total of at least 11 hours rest then select begin country and crack on.
If less than 11 hours select ferry/train option to mark data with reason for second interruption to daily rest period
Disembark and park up
Switch tacho to rest until at least 11 hours rest in total over the three periods is accumulated.
Switch tacho to other work, select begin country and crack on.
Icee:
One more thing that’s needs clearing with the ferry/train mode. It’s meant to be used when you are on the ferry/train. Not on the yards waiting! then it’s just rest.
The ferry option is selected as you begin the interruption so either on the quayside just before moving to board or on the ferry just before disembarking. That way it marks the data with the reason you are interrupting your daily rest.
Icee:
Simply put, when you arrive at the harbor / train station you put the tacho on rest and put in end country. say you get 2h rest
After you have boarded the ferry/train you put the tacho on “ferry mode”.
You cannot put the tacho on ferry mode, there is no such mode. Once you have boarded the ferry you switch the tacho to rest to continue to record your daily rest period. Selecting the ferry option at this time will do nothing because at that point you will have finished the interruption.
That feature is nothing to do with showing you are on a ferry or train, which there is no requirement anywhere in the regulations to record. The procedure is simple.
Arrive in port
Book on
Park up
Switch tacho to rest and select end country to begin daily rest
Boarding begins
Switch tacho to other work and select ferry/train option to mark data with reason for interruption to daily rest
Board
Switch tacho to rest to continue daily rest period
Ready to disembark switch tacho to other work
if you’ve had a total of at least 11 hours rest then select begin country and crack on.
If less than 11 hours select ferry/train option to mark data with reason for second interruption to daily rest period
Disembark and park up
Switch tacho to rest until at least 11 hours rest in total over the three periods is accumulated.
Switch tacho to other work, select begin country and crack on.
No I don’t agree and I have been i discussion with the law in 3 different countries. All have the same approach to it. One place being were they have the education to being a heavy traffic inspector, thats in Sweden, LuleÃ¥. Other countries being Finland and Norway.
I use the “ferry mode” several times a week.
The mode is displayed as work on the computer and is supposed to be used when you are on the ferry/train and need to get your daily rest, not anytime else THE END
When you are away from home the hole week you want to max out your working hours, no reason being away and not getting so much €€€€ as you can. So i gladly drive 11h if I can, it may also result in me being home a day earlier.
Icee:
One more thing that’s needs clearing with the ferry/train mode. It’s meant to be used when you are on the ferry/train. Not on the yards waiting! then it’s just rest.
The ferry option is selected as you begin the interruption so either on the quayside just before moving to board or on the ferry just before disembarking. That way it marks the data with the reason you are interrupting your daily rest.
Icee:
Simply put, when you arrive at the harbor / train station you put the tacho on rest and put in end country. say you get 2h rest
After you have boarded the ferry/train you put the tacho on “ferry mode”.
You cannot put the tacho on ferry mode, there is no such mode. Once you have boarded the ferry you switch the tacho to rest to continue to record your daily rest period. Selecting the ferry option at this time will do nothing because at that point you will have finished the interruption.
That feature is nothing to do with showing you are on a ferry or train, which there is no requirement anywhere in the regulations to record. The procedure is simple.
Arrive in port
Book on
Park up
Switch tacho to rest and select end country to begin daily rest
Boarding begins
Switch tacho to other work and select ferry/train option to mark data with reason for interruption to daily rest
Board
Switch tacho to rest to continue daily rest period
Ready to disembark switch tacho to other work
if you’ve had a total of at least 11 hours rest then select begin country and crack on.
If less than 11 hours select ferry/train option to mark data with reason for second interruption to daily rest period
Disembark and park up
Switch tacho to rest until at least 11 hours rest in total over the three periods is accumulated.
Switch tacho to other work, select begin country and crack on.
^^^ THIS ^^^
You are to be congratulated Mr Coffeeholic as being one of the few with a complete and accurate understanding of the interrupted daily rest period ferry movement procedure.
Anybody who isn’t doing it this way is doing it wrong and should read and learn from your very clear instructions on how they should be doing it from now on.
It just shows a ferry symbol at that time with a dashed line. To be fair I just press it when I’m on the boat as I nearly always forget to do it before I move, and so far no authorities or tacho analysts (although that’s not saying much) have pulled me up in on it.
ROG:
Anyone got a printout showing what happens when the ferry option is pressed?
As Luke says it just puts a little ferry symbol on the printout at that time, all the other usual mode symbols stay the same.
So you have been on rest on the quayside after booking off and ending the shift by entering end country. Embarkation is about to start so you switch the tacho to other work and go into the menu and press the ferry option. The printout will show a dashed line and a head on view of a ship and below it you will be on other work. At this point that option is done, it does nothing more from here on, it’s explained why you are interrupting your rest and it’s work is done and it plays no more part. You drive onto the ferry and the mode will show driving on the printout, if stopped for long enough during boarding it will also show some other work. On board you switch it back to rest and the printout shows the rest symbol, that’s all, no mystery ferry mode or anything else. The ferry option is still doing nothing at this point, it’s brief work was done before you even moved. You are on rest, not some imaginary ‘Ferry Mode’.
If you need to interrupt the rest again to disembark because you haven’t had at least 11 hours you would go into the menu and select the ferry option again where it marks the data and printout with the reason you are interrupting the rest period and it’s work us again done.
It would have been better named in the menu as ‘Rest Interruption’ or something like that but because the only time you can interrupt a daily rest is when boarding or disembarking a ferry or train they called it Ferry/Train and as a result people think it must be used every time you are on a ferry or it somehow requires them to show they are on one.
ROG:
Anyone got a printout showing what happens when the ferry option is pressed?
Here’s one I made earlier !
Perfect, and that line and ship symbol does nothing more than explain why there is an 11-minute interruption to the daily rest period between 21:59 and 22:10.
ROG:
Anyone got a printout showing what happens when the ferry option is pressed?
Here’s one I made earlier !
Perfect, and that line and ship symbol does nothing more than explain why there is an 11-minute interruption to the daily rest period between 21:59 and 22:10.
And the next day showing another ferry movement as I hadn’t quite cleared 11 hours rest when I came off the boat the next morning.
ROG:
Thank you for that image - I suspect that a visual of what actually occurs will be of great assistance to many …
I doubt it ROG, they’ll still think it’s some special mode to be used on every ferry or whatever other nonsense they believe. They won’t let the facts get in the way of the BS.
nick2008:
and just to reiterate. The OP was about split rest and not interrupting a daily rest …
xxicelandicxx:
A 3hr rest on boat then 9 after =12rest.
How many times a week can you do this within 6 shifts, and if I do more than 13hrs does it still apply or is it a reduce!!!
Anyone!!
As split IS a regular daily rest then interrupting it on a boat fits in with everything on the thread
nick2008:
and just to reiterate. The OP was about split rest and not interrupting a daily rest …
xxicelandicxx:
A 3hr rest on boat then 9 after =12rest.
How many times a week can you do this within 6 shifts, and if I do more than 13hrs does it still apply or is it a reduce!!!
Anyone!!
As split IS a regular daily rest then interrupting it on a boat fits in with everything on the thread
But you don’t need to use the Ferry mode in the OP question Rog so no its nothing to do with the OP… its come about because someone couldn’t understand the difference between a SPLIT rest and REDUCED rest
nick2008:
and just to reiterate. The OP was about split rest and not interrupting a daily rest …
xxicelandicxx:
A 3hr rest on boat then 9 after =12rest.
How many times a week can you do this within 6 shifts, and if I do more than 13hrs does it still apply or is it a reduce!!!
Anyone!!
As split IS a regular daily rest then interrupting it on a boat fits in with everything on the thread
But you don’t need to use the Ferry mode in the OP question Rog so no its nothing to do with the OP… its come about because someone couldn’t understand the difference between a SPLIT rest and REDUCED rest
nick2008:
and just to reiterate. The OP was about split rest and not interrupting a daily rest …
xxicelandicxx:
A 3hr rest on boat then 9 after =12rest.
How many times a week can you do this within 6 shifts, and if I do more than 13hrs does it still apply or is it a reduce!!!
Anyone!!
As split IS a regular daily rest then interrupting it on a boat fits in with everything on the thread
But you don’t need to use the Ferry mode in the OP question Rog so no its nothing to do with the OP… its come about because someone couldn’t understand the difference between a SPLIT rest and REDUCED rest
not quite I used to split rest 20 odd years ago 16 hour spreads 8 hours off and then it changed to 3 hours split with nine off as of April 2007 on the eleventh day, hello so before you make stupid comments, remember coffeeholic says I’m an idiot! remember?
I used to split rest 20 odd years ago 
16 hour spreads 8 hours off and then it changed to 3 hours split with nine off 
as of April 2007 on the eleventh day, hello 