Someone been naughty?

elsa Lad:

Benjie83:

elsa Lad:

Benjie83:

jakethesnake:
Some stinking attitudes towards the safety of LGV vehicles. :smiling_imp:

Try working amongst it…

Hence I don’t anymore.

But be mindful, its like any topic, there are way too many elements that lead to the above, and no one is ever going to consolidate them to stop the above articles appearing, but eventually though they will stop appearing as mankind won’t be on the planet much longer, or in shorter term analysis, working at all as the machines will take us all down.

Be interested to know what’s been found though, as there’s no point looking for who bummed the vicar with a cactus in the ball room if he’s been found locked in the basement, alone, with the key in his side of the lock at the cactus farm doing a live stream on ā– ā– ā– ā–  hub for Ā£8.50ph.

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I think it be my worse nightmare been stuck in a lift with you. Think my back would be firmly against the wall [emoji38]

It was the pcv tec talk that done it wernt it…

Sorry bud [emoji17]

I fine about it till the cactus, then my eyes started to water [emoji38]

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I’m wish not too assume one may be of the ā€˜snowflake’ generation, but I must insist that should we meet in said lift, I would hope that in the best interests of sporting masculinity one may reconsider his apprehension and embrace the encounter in its fullest form.

As they say, go hard or go home…

I wish not too waste what may be a beautiful encounter soley to the fact of a little chaffing that may be caused.

If I may I’d suggest one may wish to ā€˜be prepared’ for all eventuality, as all good professionals should be, and to have his own brand of lubrication at hand to ensure neither parties involved in this encounter have a wasted trip.

That, would be a most distasteful outcome indeed.

I bid a Good day to you Sir.

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Now I’m worried :open_mouth:

elsa Lad:
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Now I’m worried :open_mouth:

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Welsh haulier Mansel Davies has pleaded guilty to 19 counts of forgery and counterfeiting maintenance documents for HGVs.

Additional charges against MD Stephen Mansel Davies have been dropped.

The case, heard at Swansea Crown Court last month, relates to charges that were brought against Stephen Mansel Davies and employee Jonathan Wyn Phillips at a hearing in June.

Mansel Davies was accused of 19 offences of making false periodic maintenance inspection sheets for vehicles between 1 October 2017 and 14 February 2018. Phillips, of Mynachlogddu, faced 34 similar allegations.

Prosecuting barrister Lee Reynolds said that an investigation into the records of Mansel Davies was triggered after one of its vehicles was stopped by a DVSA enforcement officer.

At Swansea Crown Court, Phillips pleaded not guilty to all charges. He was granted unconditional bail and will stand trial in January 2020.

The company will be sentenced in February 2020.

Full article here Motor Transport

Safety inspection completion date
However you decide your safety inspection intervals – mileage, time-based or a mix of both – you must not exceed them. We recommend that an International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) week planning system is used to allow some flexibility when you plan safety inspections. With this system, you should complete the safety inspection within the relevant ISO week it falls. Guide to maintaining roadworthiness. DVSA.

Not every vehicle needs a rigid 6 week inspection, it seems like they have said they were inspected but weren’t, if they had said they were not inspected it wouldn’t have been a problem.

A stand trailer maybe only does 100 miles in 6 weeks, a tanker used for collecting Beaujolais Nouveau, it doesnt need inspecting a week after its annual test or every 6 weeks, the 8 wheel muckaway tipper probably needs looking at every 4 weeks. It seems that they have signed their own warrant here. If they had written missed inspection, there would be no case to answer

Pembrokeshire haulier Mansel Davies and Son has been hit with a £380,000 fine with £120,000 costs for forging lorry maintenance records.

The company, based in Llanfrynach, received the fine at Swansea Crown Court today (Tuesday 11 February) after pleading guilty to 19 offences of forgery and counterfeiting maintenance records from October to December 2017 at an earlier hearing.

Jonathan Phillips, 28 of Mynachlog-ddu, who was an administrative assistant at the company, was also given a nine-month prison sentence, suspended for two years, and has been ordered to pay £1,500 costs after pleading guilty to forging maintenance records.

The sentencing follows an investigation by the DVSA which found the company was forging its lorry maintenance records to suggest it was carrying out its regular full vehicle examinations to meet the requirements of its operator licence.

A handwriting expert identified that one person within the company was writing the false records.

The DVSA’s head of national enforcement, Caroline Hicks said, ā€œDVSA’s priority is to protect everyone from unsafe drivers and vehicles.

ā€œThis large company forged safety documents to deliberately avoid regular maintenance checks on their vehicles. This put the public and their employees at risk.

ā€œWe always pursue operators and push for the toughest penalties where there’s evidence they are cutting corners at the expense of road safety.ā€

Source Motor Transport article

Am I right in thinking the ā€œinterview without coffee and biscuitsā€ with the TC is still to come?

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Franglais:

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How many drivers Cars would pass a 6 weekly inspection without fault.

So the fitter just ticked a few inspections thro, without seeing said truck, he would know it’s condition, so what, I would think lots of fitters do the same.

So you know we have drivers out there who have no idea of the true condition of their vehicles.
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And we have fitter who doesn’t sit in the passenger seat, as the Muppet driver bounces it over kerbs and may not look at the tyres from one month til the next.
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How can a fitter possibly know the condition of a vehicle he hasn’t seen for weeks?
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If it’s gonna be ok after 6 weeks, it should, by the same logic, be ok after the next six weeks shouldn’t it? So, since we can go 3months with no problems, why not 6mths?
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A good fitter will know which drivers look after the motor and which abuse it, your large blue ā– ā– ā–  Lego firm, who hot seat maybe not, but a one driver truck firm will.

Exactly that. I blew a scania gearbox to bits hauling for a small firm. The fitter said i mustve been driving it like a racing car. I said yes. He didnt tell the boss. Got repaired i was back on road. I decided the to start changing gears a bit earlier as not to rouse suspicion to my eratic driving. Although boss was happy i could churn some more work out in same hours than the other 4 drivers. So the bill was paid in effort.

Exactly that. I blew a scania gearbox to bits hauling for a small firm. The fitter said i mustve been driving it like a racing car. I said yes. He didnt tell the boss. Got repaired i was back on road. I decided the to start changing gears a bit earlier as not to rouse suspicion to my eratic driving. Although boss was happy i could churn some more work out in same hours than the other 4 drivers. So the bill was paid in effort.

Oh dear, why would you want to drive a scania truck and change gear like in a racing car? Sounds like the actions of a dopey boyracer. :laughing: Event then you obviously couldn’t do it very well as you blew the gearbox up.
Get on a track with proper racers and you would be left behind in their wheel tracks, that’s if you made it round the first corner. :laughing:

kjw21:
Am I right in thinking the ā€œinterview without coffee and biscuitsā€ with the TC is still to come?

Yes it’s still to come. That’s the bit that will be interesting

good_friend:

kjw21:
Am I right in thinking the ā€œinterview without coffee and biscuitsā€ with the TC is still to come?

Yes it’s still to come. That’s the bit that will be interesting

Yeah that’s what I thought too.

The office junior was left to carry the can, the Judge said no doubt he was obeying orders, but charges against the boss dropped, and no action taken against his supervisor. Welcome to Wales!

The old TC in Wales always complained that there was no enforcement because VOSA were too busy doing tests at ATFs, and many of the people appearing before him had no idea who he was, and got all upset when he explained that he had the power to take their LGV or O licence off them. For much of his time, he was also TC for West Midlands, and didn’t even have an office in Wales.

The new TC will no doubt be looking to stamp some authority on the territory. I suspect that feathers will fly at the PI, unless the company can demonstrate that it has purged the office of those responsible…and the list will go much further than junior.

the company also runs a Volvo Truck franchise…I expect there will be some questions asked of them by Volvo, too.

listening to any comment by volvo will be the least of his worries.
volvo will still want to sell trucks to anyone.
some of the mobs over here got told any electronic gearbox claims wouldnt be accepted to to normal practice of magnets and such but apart from that they all want to sell trucks.

The question is whether Volvo will want to let this company still run its franchised workshop in the area, when it had a truck of its own on the road with a broken shock absorber, and the emissions and ABS lamps on, and fake PMI records.
Volvo dealers’ workshops have to report all MoT failures on vehicles they have prepared for test to head office, and questions get asked so Volvo’s view of this is going to be quite serious, I would think.

GasGas:
The office junior was left to carry the can, the Judge said no doubt he was obeying orders, but charges against the boss dropped, and no action taken against his supervisor. Welcome to Wales!

The old TC in Wales always complained that there was no enforcement because VOSA were too busy doing tests at ATFs, and many of the people appearing before him had no idea who he was, and got all upset when he explained that he had the power to take their LGV or O licence off them. For much of his time, he was also TC for West Midlands, and didn’t even have an office in Wales.

The new TC will no doubt be looking to stamp some authority on the territory. I suspect that feathers will fly at the PI, unless the company can demonstrate that it has purged the office of those responsible…and the list will go much further than junior.

the company also runs a Volvo Truck franchise…I expect there will be some questions asked of them by Volvo, too.

There’s that many rumours flying about in West Wales regarding this but I guess that’s to be expected.

The best I heard was unsurprisingly from a DCPC trainer saying that DVSA had to bring in investigators from over the bridge so as to ā€œguaranteeā€ an impartial investigation.

There’s a fair few people think that the fine whilst fair, the sentence handed out is misplaced so to speak.

good_friend:

kjw21:
Am I right in thinking the ā€œinterview without coffee and biscuitsā€ with the TC is still to come?

Yes it’s still to come. That’s the bit that will be interesting

Well here’s the end result…

Mansel Davies & Son (MDSL) has had its license revoked after a director ordered a junior member of staff to falsify maintenance records in a ā€œdisgracefulā€ act to cover-up an absence of vehicle safety checks.

The falsified records were discovered as part of a DVSA investigation in 2018, which discovered that the Pembrokeshire firm had falsified up to as many as 30 preventative maintenance inspection (PMI) records, as well as creating 15 records purportedly showing that vehicles were off the road (VOR) and therefore not requiring PMIs.

In reality, the vehicles were being operated on days during the supposed VOR period and therefore would have required PMIs.

At a Caernarfon public inquiry, TC Nick Denton said there was evidence that the falsification of records stretched back to 2015 and that the practice of sending vehicles out of the workshop with incomplete PMIs continued well into 2018.

The TC said directors David Davies and his son Stephen ā€œpresided over a toxic maintenance culture at MDSL.

ā€œThe culture was wholly at odds with the preventative maintenance philosophy. It was not a temporary aberration but of long duration.ā€

In a written decision following the PI on 24 and 25 November, TC Denton said no one at director level took responsibility for the company’s dishonesty and instead resigned from their positions just days before the hearing and did not attend.

He was particularly critical that they ordered a junior employee to falsify maintenance documents and then left him to face a prison sentence while failing to take responsibility themselves.

Full article can be found here in Motor Transport

kippers and curtains springs to mind after reading that… :unamused:

A NORTH Pembrokeshire haulage firm that ā€œput its employees and other road users in dangerā€ has had its licence revoked for forging vehicle maintenance records.

A public inquiry was held after the Llanfyrnach firm Mansel Davies & Son Ltd pleaded guilty to 19 counts of forgery and counterfeiting maintenance documents for goods vehicles back in September 2019.

In a written report by Nicholas Denton, the traffic commissioner, he described the company as ā€œirredeemably taintedā€ by its conduct in failing to carry out preventative maintenance on its fleet of lorries.

The traffic commissioner said he considered the company’s maintenance malpractice to far outweigh more recent improvements and the ā€œintroduction of new, more capable and more ethical directorsā€.

Mr Denton said he ā€œfirmly believesā€ the company - which employs around 300 people - deserves to go out of business.

Recording a decision, the traffic commissioner revoked the company’s operating licence with effect from February 1, 2021.

Full article here in the Western Telegraph

moomooland:
… company’s maintenance malpractice to far outweigh more recent improvements and the ā€œintroduction of new, more capable and more ethical directorsā€

I can’t see from any of the details where the new ā€œmore ethical directorsā€ are. They all seem to be part of the same family, so surely there’s no way they could expect the TC to allow them to keep it going.

Be interesting to see if it’s going into admin or if there’s anyone who can still sell off the assets. With the current ethics of the former directors, I would be getting the hell out of there ASAP and not wait for redundancy.

Dont want to be there if it does like Canute at Christmas 2018.

Companies House list all the Directors, Active and not.

Looks like the replacement were children of the family IMHO (!) and at least one of them resigned within 6 months of being appointed