Smoking in the cab?

coreysboys:
Any vehicle (car, van or lorry) used as a “workplace” by more than one person is covered by the ban.

No mention of a bus/coach though :wink:

Even when I was an employed driver, I had a letter from the Environmental Health Department of Swale Borough Council confirming that I was allowed to smoke in the vehicle I drove. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it! :stuck_out_tongue:

jase:
It’s just a personal thing,I don’t like smoking,each to their own but can someone answer me a question,why do companies insist on putting “cancer corner”( smoking areas) where you have to walk past them?

You don’t ‘HAVE’ to walk past them.

P.S. I don’t mind that you don’t smoke ■■■

Long distance clara:
Driver has been done for it.

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Was he smoking a dog end ? :wink:

I smoke.

I smoke in my house, it is after all MY house.

I smoke in my lorry, it might be YOUR lorry, but when I’m driving it, it suddenly becomes MY lorry.

I smoke in MY lorry, because it is My lorry for the duration. I don’t mind you not smoking in My lorry when it suddenly becomes YOUR lorry. This I think is where we are different.

I have serious problems when I climb into a cab & it smells like a poofs boudoir. No seriously I do, I have to waste 15mins just to make sure that Nicky Clarke isn’t hiding under the bunk waiting to bum me the first time I park up.

I don’t look like a pig or think like a pig. I don’t live like a pig. I am not a pig.

Only the most obnoxious of those reformed individuals called ex-smokers could ever have a problem with someone smoking in a cab that isn’t actually theirs.

I believe they are mistaking smokers with pigs. Pigs have no respect for people. A pig will smoke in your cab & leave all it’s trash lying around because it knows no better.

Just like it eats in your cab, ■■■■■ in your cab, drinks in your cab, masturbates in your cab, goes to the toilet & doesn’t wash it’s hands in your cab, picks it’s nose & wipes it on your dash in your cab . . . do you want me to go on?

Of course you do, 'cos that’s the kind of OCD chap that you are.

I wouldn’t employ anybody who didn’t smoke, ■■■ ash in the cab I can tolerate, piousness, sanctimoniousness and holier-than-thouness I can’t. :stuck_out_tongue:

Ive recently gave up smoking (about 3 weeks now) used to smoke in the cab, always cleaned up after myself truck never smelled of smoke as window was open further than a baw hair and left open once i had finished having a smoke, i wasnt a heavy smoker either which helped most times a 10 deck could last 2 days.

Now its nice not smelling it all the time and out of the 3 drivers only 1 of us smokes now, trucks do smell better but its not really bothering me if anyone smokes in it aslong as they clean up and open the window properly (thats a big bug bear is folk who open the window about 2mm)

Ex-smoker. 3 months smoke free. Don’t mind the smell of it. I even miss it sometimes. I would rather sit in a cab that smells of smoke than sit in a cab that stinks of wet dog and/or human excrement any day.

Harry Monk:
I wouldn’t employ anybody who didn’t smoke, ■■■ ash in the cab I can tolerate, piousness, sanctimoniousness and holier-than-thouness I can’t. :stuck_out_tongue:

Want to be careful with that attitude when you expand the empire could end up in a tribunal. :wink:

I smoke in mine. On the odd time I use one of the non smokers motors I don’t smoke in it. We night out in them so to me that would be like smoking in someone elses house :open_mouth:

I have one of those electronic ciggys for places where you can’t smoke so use that and have a real one every couple of hours while doing a load check or having a break :smiley:

As for the technicalities and legalaties ? I really don’t care :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: I don’t need a law to recognise and adhere to a simple courtesy :unamused:

SHYTOT:
Unenforceable ■■ I have dissmissed a driver for smoking in company vehicles,
We now only employ non smokers

If he disobeyed your ruling then fair enough. But secretly, I really do hope someone, somewhere, takes you to court for discrimination and wins. Smoking in itself is not illegal.

Harry Monk:
I wouldn’t employ anybody who didn’t smoke, ■■■ ash in the cab I can tolerate, piousness, sanctimoniousness and holier-than-thouness I can’t. :stuck_out_tongue:

Ohhhhhh the irony :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I would hazard a guess that a few firms won’t take on drivers who smoke.
If smoking in the workplace isn’t such a big deal then why do firms ask you on application forms if your a smoker or non- smoker?,it’d be easy for them to say you were unsuitable for the vacancy but would they say it was because you smoked?
Just another way of wheedling people out but would you be able to prove it?

coreysboys:
Taken from the website of anti smoking charity, Forest.

Any vehicle (car, van or lorry) used as a “workplace” by more than one person is covered by the ban. Smokers driving company cars, vans, lorries and enclosed tractors in England can be fined £50 for lighting up at the wheel if the vehicle might be handed over to a colleague from work later in the day.

Employees who get a company car for their sole use are allowed to smoke while giving a non-smoking colleague a lift to work, because the journey will count as private use. But employees sharing a pool car will not be allowed to light up, even if they are all heavy smokers.

There are very few exemptions to the ban, but they currently include designated hotel bedrooms and prison cells. The law in Scotland also denies actors the ability to light up on stage or film set. Actors in England are not prevented from smoking on stage (including film and television sets) if it is important to the artistic integrity of the performance.

Signage must be a minimum of 23x16cm otherwise employers can face prosecution.

Local councils are responsible for enforcement, NOT police.

A bit misleading re prison cells, when you go into spin search do the AFC Area Fabric checks on the cell if there is a prisoner in the cell he is lawfully required to put ■■■ out, if not he can get a nicking under prison order for failing to obey a law instruction of an officer then you spin his cell more get him on basic so he loses his TV oh and at night switch off his electric to the cell so he cant charge his mobile or watch the TV he hid under the bed!!!

Sidevalve:

SHYTOT:
Unenforceable ■■ I have dismissed a driver for smoking in company vehicles,
We now only employ non smokers

If he disobeyed your ruling then fair enough. But secretly, I really do hope someone, somewhere, takes you to court for discrimination and wins. Smoking in itself is not illegal.

Cant see how he will get done, employ a smoker make it gross misconduct to smoke in cab due to him breaking the law then easy sacked for bringing company in to disrepute … I do not smoke and if i owned trucks would not allow smoking in them at all but nothing against smokers apart from all should be shot! :smiley: starting with my neighbour

We are now the leppers of the world us smokers, as said if you share a truck who’s to say the scruffy twot who’s just been to the crapper wiped his arse and doesnt wash his hands gets your truck, i think i could tolerate a bit of stale baccy than squits and sickness thanks to moron who doesnt practice basic hygene :frowning:

His lorry, which carried a no smoking sign, was parked when a council dog warden spotted him puffing away.

'It is slightly unnerving that dog wardens are now enforcing the ban.

‘There a slide into control by the state in this country.’

A council dog warden…oh why doesn’t that surprise me, jumped up little power hungry prick.

Done me some digging.

Hull Council has issued 39 PCN’s for smoking in work vehicles since 2007. All but one were taxi/private hire drivers, and the other was a coach driver on his way to a school run.

No truck drivers were caught due to the difficulty in seeing them smoking so high up(quote).

Of the 39 PCN’s, 37 were paid within the first 15 days meaning a 50% reduction in the fine to £30. The other 2 opted to go to court. One is pending and the other got a £100 fine plus victim surcharge of £15.

There was one truck driver seen with a ■■■ out of the window but the officer could only get the company details and not the reg, so the company was written to and informed/warned.

Hull CC do NOT actively go out to Companies to check that NO Smoking signage is in place in cabs.

They confirm that owner drivers or vehicles where no other employee will ever be required to work CAN be used for smoking.

As a non smoker myself I haven’t got a problem with drivers smoking in their cabs, but I have with people smoking in MY cab :smiling_imp: . You always get the, I left the window open/ I used air freshener :unamused: but they just don’t get it, it still bloody stinks for days after… end of.
I’ve just read through the thread and read the inevitable recognised methods of stifling arguments which are contrary to the subject in question, the same as if you dare to question say immigration you are a racist, if you show dissaproval to 2 blokes snogging each others face off in a pub you are homophobic, and with this if you show any objection to in cab smoking, you are ridiculed ,and put down and patronised as an old woman/■■■■/■■■■■■ by the smoker who likes to come across as Billy Bigbollox who’s a REAL man …Cos I smoke 20 a day :unamused: ,so to the Billys on here… I couldnt give a ■■■■ what names you call me, cos I know I aint any of them, smoke yourself to death, I dont give a ■■■■, just don’t do it in my motor :smiling_imp:

DAF95XF:

coreysboys:
Any vehicle (car, van or lorry) used as a “workplace” by more than one person is covered by the ban.

No mention of a bus/coach though :wink:

Applies to buses and coaches as well. No harm in having a craty one but sometimes there are tell tale signs which are a bit of a giveaway! :smiley:

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