MADBAZ:
I’m sorry but smoke in your cab you deserve to be sacked, the law is the law, you should be excluded from applying for jobs if your a smoker!
hitler will never be dead as long as theres people like this around.
sad sad people.
next i wont be able to read my book when im driving,
with the cruise control on and enjoying a nice cigarette and an expresso.
i never get stressed this way and unstressed drivers are safer drivers.
i forgt to say,the clogs are always off as well.more pleasant driving in the socks.
For the purpose of the law, the fact that a mechanic may drive it into a workshop once a month or so is irrelevant. The Health Act 2006 was designed to protect employees from the dangers of inhaling cigarette smoke, and not to pander to the sensibilities of those who dislike the odour of a vehicle which has been smoked in.
For the purpose of the law, the fact that a mechanic may drive it into a workshop once a month or so is irrelevant. The Health Act 2006 was designed to protect employees from the dangers of inhaling cigarette smoke, and not to pander to the sensibilities of those who dislike the odour of a vehicle which has been smoked in.
Hi Harry. Are you saying that if you are driving and no one else is in the truck at the time, then smoking is allowed period?
No, you couldn’t smoke in (say) a Tesco lorry because you drive a different one every day. This only applies to those such as myself who have a dedicated vehicle. The link I gave includes the letter I wrote to Swale Borough Council and anybody in similar circumstances to my own can smoke.
You should bear in mind that your employer can impose his own prohibition on smoking in the cab.
The new law requires vehicles to be smoke-free at all times if they are used:
to transport members of the public
in the course of paid or voluntary work by more than one person — regardless of whether they are in the vehicle at the same time.
Vehicles that are used primarily for private purposes will not be required to be smoke-free.
The bit I have highlighted in red suports what Harry says.
When the law first came in i received a shedload of paperwork from the union and other bodies and all said “no smoking in a workplace includes any vehicle used for work” or words to that effect. That is also where I picked up the info re mechanics etc. So I am still uncertain.
Where I work i have a different vehicle everyday and so do all the other drivers so the ban is absolute for us but in fairness they have also banned anyone from smoking in ANY company vehicle which includes managers in co. cars etc.
I don’t know if I read it on this forum or somewhere else but there was a report of a painter and decorator being fined for smoking in his van, even though it was not (he claimed) his workplace but merely a vehicle for transporting his materials and tools. Didn’t hear wether his appeal was successful.
chippy:
So you can smoke in the cab if no one else is in there?
I smoke when I drive because it helps. I am reluctant to take on some work due to the so called smoking ban.
Lets say I took a container down to felix from brum and back and I smoked 20 ■■■■. Then ten mins before getting back I sprayed the cab with oust or something, then swept the floor, then wiped the dash and the window ledges would the next chap who is or could be a non smoker tell. More importantly could the manager/supervisor.
Paranoid Chippy.
Yes we can, I’ve never smoked so I can tell if someones been smoking as the stench hangs in the air no matter how much air freshner you’ve sprayed. Even when I’m driving down the motorway, if someone in front is blowing their cigarette smoke out of the window as my patrol car travels through the smoke, I can smell it through the air vent!!
The Highway Man:
Yes we can, I’ve never smoked so I can tell if someones been smoking as the stench hangs in the air no matter how much air freshner you’ve sprayed. Even when I’m driving down the motorway, if someone in front is blowing their cigarette smoke out of the window as my patrol car travels through the smoke, I can smell it through the air vent!!
chippy, i have a feeling someone is winding you up!!!
if you have just had a few crafty ■■■■ in there with the windows open with a good flow of air through the cab they wont really smell it. stay cool and light up as you wish mate!!!
The Highway Man:
Yes we can, I’ve never smoked so I can tell if someones been smoking as the stench hangs in the air no matter how much air freshner you’ve sprayed.
Yes, but the Health Act 2006 was designed to protect employees from the dangers of inhaling cigarette smoke- dangers which undoubtably exist- but not to pander to the sensibilities of jumped-up failed Police-applicant control-freaks who dislike the odour of a vehicle which has been smoked in.
The Highway Man:
Even when I’m driving down the motorway, if someone in front is blowing their cigarette smoke out of the window as my patrol car travels through the smoke, I can smell it through the air vent!!
Unless you are “precious”, I think you might be exaggerating here.Doesn’t the smell of the diesel, ashphalt, petrol, rubber and hot steel tone it down a little for you?
The Highway Man:
. as my patrol car travels through the smoke,
I’ll tell you what, as this recession deepens it is people like you that we need to sod off down the Dole Office so that people like me who do real jobs can have their future tax rises kept to the bare minimum.
Even when I’m driving down the motorway, if someone in front is blowing their cigarette smoke out of the window as my patrol car travels through the smoke, I can smell it through the air vent!
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In that case you should change your job…there are always vacancies for a good sense of smell at airportsand docks, generally dogs though!
Even when I’m driving down the motorway, if someone in front is blowing their cigarette smoke out of the window as my patrol car travels through the smoke, I can smell it through the air vent!
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In that case you should change your job…there are always vacancies for a good sense of smell at airportsand docks, generally dogs though!
That is the most rediculous statement I have heard on this forum yet. How on earth can anyone driving behind someone smoking, smell the smoke from another motorist. I take it we are on an Mway here doing 56mph
If your nose is that sensitive then Harry’s idea is the way forward.
If I remember correctly, years ago there was people calling for smoking when driving to bad banned cos of hand off sterring wheel etc, but it was actually proven that it keeps smokers calm while driving and it was more dangerous to ban smoking while driving than to let smokers carring on cos stress levels where higher when not having a ■■■
chippy:
That is the most rediculous statement I have heard on this forum yet. How on earth can anyone driving behind someone smoking, smell the smoke from another motorist. I take it we are on an Mway here doing 56mph
My guess is that this HATO clown has made his last post to this thread.
Well Harry, I’ve been reading this thread with interest and may well get the chance to use your Councils interpretation and put it to the test
Just over 4 weeks ago I was delivering to Elmdon Trading estate at Birmingham and as I was leaving I was pulled into one of the NEC car parks for a multi vehicle agency check.
Licence/O licence/ vehicle plates etc checked first and OK
Unit and trailer mechanically checked and OK
Deisel tank dipped and OK
Digital Tacho checked and OK ( Pheeew)
Just as I was about to leave I was told that 2 young ladies wanted a word with me.
They were wearing High Viz coats with Public Health on the front, and told me I had been photographed on entering the checkpoint ‘smoking in the work place’ and I would be receiving a fixed penalty fine of £30.
I argued that in the evening the workplace was my lounge and at night my bedroom for 5 days a week. I argued I was the only driver.
They said that someone may drive it if I’m on holiday or off sick. I told them it didn’t happen (so, I lied ) and their reply was
‘’ But when that vehicle is sold after 3 years someone else will buy it and they will have to sit in it’’
What annoys me is that these two ‘young ladies’ are employed by the local Council, and their wages are paid via our Council Tax.
It’s also an interesting fact that the campaigners for this stupid law to be brought in, ie: The Anti Smoking Brigade, are also having their Council Tax used to enforce it
Four weeks later and I have not yet had my fixed penalty notice arrive and can’t fight it until I do, but will certainly bear your result in mind, Harry.
bloodoodle:
They were wearing High Viz coats with Public Health on the front, and told me I had been photographed on entering the checkpoint ‘smoking in the work place’ and I would be receiving a fixed penalty fine of £30.
I argued that in the evening the workplace was my lounge and at night my bedroom for 5 days a week. I argued I was the only driver.
They said that someone may drive it if I’m on holiday or off sick. I told them it didn’t happen (so, I lied ) and their reply was
‘’ But when that vehicle is sold after 3 years someone else will buy it and they will have to sit in it’’
This sort of PC, “any cost so long as we get a conviction” attitude is infinitely more poisonous than 40 Park Drive a day.
