I dont have a problem with smokers, but dont expect me to get in a cab that has been smoked in. There’s no way you can get rid of the stink no matter how well it’s been cleaned, just my humble opinion.
Tiger.
It ranks alongside the other many obnoxious smells for me…
Sileage, BO, ■■■■■, cow slurry and farm sprays.
All of which we all tolerate so what’s the difference? 
Or do you also refuse to drive in the Country to avoid these smells as well
Pat
i always knew the bean was over regulated over the years, but things really getting out of hand now, no smoking in trucks, no plates in windows, tables on dashboards etc, im glad im not working there.
probably only a matter of time before australia gets there though, for now though all i gotta worry about is my weights, my log book, and that the trucks roadworthy.
All I’m saying is that the smell can linger, I haven’t got a problem with it. Non smokers can smell if someone has been smoking, as the smell can permeate the material in the seats so no amount of air freshener will mask it. Why the abuse? I didn’t give any out, just made a simple statement, did I touch a nerve with you smokers perhaps?
Harry Monk:
chippy:
That is the most rediculous statement I have heard on this forum yet. How on earth can anyone driving behind someone smoking, smell the smoke from another motorist. I take it we are on an Mway here doing 56mphMy guess is that this HATO clown has made his last post to this thread.
Think again and as previously stated, I don’t resort to name calling and giving abuse so I’d appreciate the same, thank you 
The Highway Man:
Think again and as previously stated, I don’t resort to name calling and giving abuse so I’d appreciate the same, thank you
Well, honestly, you tell us "Even when I’m driving down the motorway, if someone in front is blowing their cigarette smoke out of the window as my patrol car travels through the smoke, I can smell it through the air vent!! " and you expect to be taken seriously?
What do you think we are, stupid?
Harry Monk:
The Highway Man:
Think again and as previously stated, I don’t resort to name calling and giving abuse so I’d appreciate the same, thank youWell, honestly, you tell us "Even when I’m driving down the motorway, if someone in front is blowing their cigarette smoke out of the window as my patrol car travels through the smoke, I can smell it through the air vent!! " and you expect to be taken seriously?
What do you think we are, stupid?
Not at all, I have a strong sense of smell and can smell it, I don’t know how but I can. It’s the same at work, I can tell if someones been having a crafty ■■■ but I don’t say anything because no one likes a grass and being a scouser, I learnt that from an early age
Then I reckon you ought to be transferred to Dover Eastern Dock to be re-trained as a sniffer dog.
The highway man is right about smelling the smoker in a vehicle in front having a ■■■, I can also! As I used to smell the smoke when my next door neighbour had a ■■■ in the summer with the windows open!
The council Environment enforcement officers have a lot more power than many of us know. They usually have cameras in their vans also.
I had this pointed out to me when I was taking photos and talking with all the personnel at a multi taskforce agency checkpoint. They are not keen on you taking photos, but there is no law preventing this at the moment.
If you are interested all clickable thumbs…
Harry Monk:
Then I reckon you ought to be transferred to Dover Eastern Dock to be re-trained as a sniffer dog.
No thanks, I wouldn’t go south of the river at this time of day
The highway man is right about smelling the smoker in a vehicle in front having a ■■■, I can also! As I used to smell the smoke when my next door neighbour had a ■■■ in the summer with the windows open
thats fairly reasonable on a warm still summer day.
But to claim that anyone can smell a cigarette at a safe distance from the vehicle in front, at motorway speeds, with all the exhaust fumes ,ad blue odours, catalytic converter fumes, burning rubber, hot tarmac, and all the hundred and one other smells, including the on board odours in their own vehicle and the amount of air movement is so far beyond belief that it’s unreal.
Any human being with a sense of smell so acute should be in the guiness book of records or a research laboratory!.
I simply do not believe it.
I’ve told a million million times, do not exaggerate 
I think that just as Pavlov’s dog used to salivate when it heard the dinner gong because it had learned that it would shortly be eating the left-overs, I imagine our HATO friend smells smoke if he sees anybody smoking but this is entirely pschosomatic and I imagine he can probably smell smoke even when he sees somebody smoking on the television.
Legal to smoke in this wagon, for 2 reasons, 1: it’s Belgian, and 2: I live here, it’s not a shared motor, and I spend 7 nights a week in it. And do I ever take advantage of that one!
I think you will find that the lorry being Belgian-registered doesn’t make any difference and that the law theoretically applies to vehicles of any nationality, but you are right in that it is a dedicated vehicle not used by anyone else during the course of their work and on those grounds alone, your truck does not fall within the scope of the Health Act and you are allowed to smoke.
Not according to the two Public Health workers who told me…
They said that someone may drive it if I’m on holiday or off sick. I told them it didn’t happen (so, I lied ) and their reply was
‘’ But when that vehicle is sold after 3 years someone else will buy it and they will have to sit in it’’
I think there will have to be a court case ruling eventually to decide the finer points of this one.
Pat
Harry Monk:
The Highway Man:
Think again and as previously stated, I don’t resort to name calling and giving abuse so I’d appreciate the same, thank youWell, honestly, you tell us "Even when I’m driving down the motorway, if someone in front is blowing their cigarette smoke out of the window as my patrol car travels through the smoke, I can smell it through the air vent!! " and you expect to be taken seriously?
What do you think we are, stupid?
Can I ask if you’re a smoker? if so your sense of smell is descentitized to the smell of cigarette smoke. Whereas I have never smoked and can tell if someone has had a cigarette in a room long after they have gone.
I smoke currently but I gave up for three years- the most miserable three years of my life- but long after I had stopped, although I could smell if a room had been smoked in reasonably recently, I most certainly couldn’t smell if the driver in front of me was smoking, although I am prepared to accept that you might not leave as big a gap between your vehicle and the one in front as I do.
Anyway, whatever you say, Swale Borough Council’s Chief Enforcement Officer has told me, in writing, that I can smoke in my cab, and that’s the end of that.
The Highway Man:
as my patrol car travels through the smoke
That’ll be why them HATO cars have all them lights all over them then?
I’m not trying to steal Harry’s moment of victory here but is it really such a big ■■■■■■■ issue?
The country is about to go bust and end up a third world country, there are people losing their jobs everyday at the moment, some people don’t even know if they will have a house to celebrate Christmas in, people are being stabbed for the slightest thing, kids as young as 14 are in court for shooting other kids and all we can row about is if smoking in cabs is legal or illegal. The law is an ■■■ in my eyes but that doesn’t really come into it.
Highway man, I find it hard to believe that you can smell someone smoking in the wagon in front of you on the motorway, your nose might be good but I very much doubt its that good, if you are stood at the side of cab with the door open after someone has finished a ■■■ maybe but travelling at 50 mph on a motorway. Admit it, you are exaggerating a little.
If no one else has access to that vehicle then what actual harm is it doing? The mechanic that drives it into the workshop isn’t going to complain if he can smell smoke, what if you have a dump in a bag and put it in the side locker to put it in a bin later on and forget about it, will he refuse to drive it because of the smell? Probably yes he would, if you have a smoke and he needs to drive it, will he refuse to do it? Probably not as it isn’t as if he has to live in it for a week like the smoker does, how many non smokers don’t go to smokers houses because of the smell?
In a wagon it is your work place and your home, I believe it is up to you what you do in it!
The only other option would be to stop every hour for a 10 minute break to have a burn and then the bosses would soon get fed up with that, with loads being late and missing delivery times. If it isn’t harming anyone (ie there is no-one else in the cab with you) then just carry on.
Is it not the case, that the human nose after say 2 minutes will have become accustomed to the odour and will not even recognise the smell, having got used to it.
Our council has employed, for a vast amount of money a smoking detector officer, who drives round on the hunt for evil no good smokers.
Perhaps the next step are smoke detector gatso’s and specs detectors.
I mean how much does all this cost the tax payer?
And just another point. How many pubs have gone under since the ban came in?