Question for the cycling enthusiasts; When road races are staged, do they need any kind of notice to the local authorities? You see the “cycle event” signs about, and marshalls placed along routes although I’ve seen some that act like the riders’ times are more important than the motorists who have priority at junctions etc. My brother in law takes part in these races on occasion and I’ve been roped into watching/snoozing, and seen marshalls get quite irate when people press the button on crossings etc.
I do like the crashes though. 
DrivingMissDaisy:
There’s an awful lot of people here who’ve passed a test but haven’t learned to drive yet…
^^^^^this^^^^^
waynedl:
I’ll be cycling from Manchester to Blackpool in June, on a variety of roads including 30mph zones, NSL singles and even some NSL dual carriageways, do me a favour and stay the hell away, thanks
The only favour I can do for you is to advise you not to go to Blackpool. You’ll regret it once you’re there.
zippo:
I have no axe to grind here, but this morning on the M62 eastbound,near to the A19 exit it got a bit silly with trucks swerving and braking and what have you.
When everything got sorted and I got back up to cruising speed there was this stobarts/tesco combo that seemed to be moving at about 40 mph.
My question is.
Do the drivers have to drive at that speed or will the driver by trying to get a fuel bonus?
Maybe they could fit flashing orange beacons to the rear of the trailer like the farmers.
And before the guy (whose user name escapes me) accuses my of tailgating I wasn’t, I was well back but it is still [zb] dangerous in my opinion.
If you take your time on your first run you’ll often find that they won’t send you out for a second run as you won’t have time,which may mean you do a 6/7/8 hr shift instead of 12/13/15 hrs .
I’m not suggesting this was the case ,but it’s not unknown for it too happen.
waynedl:
mickyblue:
Cyclist on a 70mph duel carriage way is not a good mix. They need to stay of the road for there safety and stick to the cycle routes. I don’t care what people will think but it’s stupid for a cyclist to be on a 70mph road doing 10mph. This"Unfortunately some drivers have very little skill when it comes to anticipation. Usually in far to much of a hurry with little regard for others safety.
A vehicle moving at a very fast speed will come up against that cyclist very quickly. Now days cars won’t allow a HGV to move over in to lane 2 to get past
Maybe drivers who are unable to negotiate a cyclist are the ones who should stay off the roads.
A cycle has the RIGHT to use the road, the driver of a motorised vehicle (other than invalidity carriages) has the LICENSED PRIVILEGE to use the road, for which they’ve had to pass a test to prove their capability for dealing with ALL KINDS of traffic.
This US AND THEM attitude is the problem, if there’s no ‘NO CYCLING’ sign (which is usually accompanied by a no pedestrian and no horse / horse and cart sign - and usually only on motorways, tunnels and certain bridges) then it’s legal for the cycle to be there and YOUR responsibility to deal with it or hand your licence back and get the hell off the road for everybody’s safety
edited to add
I’ll be cycling from Manchester to Blackpool in June, on a variety of roads including 30mph zones, NSL singles and even some NSL dual carriageways, do me a favour and stay the hell away, thanks
Wayne I think your missing my point. I am not saying all cyclists should stay of the road end off. The roads I think they should stay of are Duel carriage ways, you know, the fast moving ones. I know the signs your talking about as you have them on the A11 I think some where along that road.
You can’t say it’s safe for a fast moving vehicle to catch up on a cycle pretty fast? not all people on that road will be awake and planning ahead. This is why I think they need to stay of them sort of roads for there safety but each to there own. 
THIS IS NOT THEM AND US, JUST A TIP!
Edit: I will look out for you heading to Blackpool.
mickyblue:
You can’t say it’s safe for a fast moving vehicle to catch up on a cycle pretty fast? not all people on that road will be awake and planning ahead. This is why I think they need to stay of them sort of roads for there safety but each to there own.
Don’t you think it’d be better if the people who are not awake or planning ahead stayed off the roads?
Smoggie89:
There should be minimum 60 mph , people say safer driving at 50 I think it’s more dangerous
that minimum 60 mph would ban all hgv s then as speed is limited to 56
Many years ago my Great Uncle was pulled over by the Police for driving at 40mph on the motorway. He was 70 something at the time, and simply didn’t like going any faster. They pulled him because they thought there might be something wrong with the car…and after a quick questioning they advised him it might be safer for all if he didn’t use the motorway!
Born Idle:
Many years ago my Great Uncle was pulled over by the Police for driving at 40mph on the motorway. He was 70 something at the time, and simply didn’t like going any faster. They pulled him because they thought there might be something wrong with the car…and after a quick questioning they advised him it might be safer for all if he didn’t use the motorway!
Good advice from the boys in blue. They’re well aware of the high number of licence holders who pose a real threat to your great uncle!
Getting a lot of 35-37MPH on the SC A roads around here lately…It is creating havoc with the car drivers and other lorry drivers…I know the limit is 40MPH for us heavies and I like to do that…35MPH is an insult to be honest 
m1cks:
waynedl:
I’ll be cycling from Manchester to Blackpool in June, on a variety of roads including 30mph zones, NSL singles and even some NSL dual carriageways, do me a favour and stay the hell away, thanksThe only favour I can do for you is to advise you not to go to Blackpool. You’ll regret it once you’re there.
Charity ride mate, I’m not planning on staying there when I arrive 
Contraflow:
mickyblue:
You can’t say it’s safe for a fast moving vehicle to catch up on a cycle pretty fast? not all people on that road will be awake and planning ahead. This is why I think they need to stay of them sort of roads for there safety but each to there own.Don’t you think it’d be better if the people who are not awake or planning ahead stayed off the roads?
Exactly, surely the issue is with you (screw)drivers and not with the cycles.
You are aware, that you can ease off the throttle, so you’re not approaching my cycle at 60mph?? Also, just next to the throttle (that you’ve just eased off) is another pedal that will decrease your speed quicker, it’s known as a brake pedal and can be used multiple times without any massive degradation to your vehicle 
Honestly, if it’s legal to ride on a 70mph dual carriageway (NSL Dual carriageway = 70mph MAX), then why shouldn’t I or anyone else?
This is 1 of the few countries in the world where drivers treat cyclists like 2nd class citizens or even lesser users of the carriageways
Personally, I only cycle for enjoyment and fitness, but I know plenty that cycle to commute too, would you really rather everyone got off their cycles and into yet another car in front of you in the queue 
Rat67:
xamtex:
speed limits are a maximum speed not a target speed!..if you want to go faster on the motorway pass me…if you want to do 56 on a single carriageway tough…i have a clean licence and try to keep it that way…why is everyone in such a rush?..trucks nose to tail…cutting in so close in front? no wonder there are so many trucks running into the back of the traffic in front?..chill out…stay safe…get home in one peice to your families?+1 nothing but bloody rush rush rush in this country now. As xamtex says, if you want to go faster on mway, OVERTAKE, it’s not friggin rocket science!
absolutely. Its impatient and unprofessional drivers that can not see that.
miketaurus:
Rat67:
xamtex:
speed limits are a maximum speed not a target speed!..if you want to go faster on the motorway pass me…if you want to do 56 on a single carriageway tough…i have a clean licence and try to keep it that way…why is everyone in such a rush?..trucks nose to tail…cutting in so close in front? no wonder there are so many trucks running into the back of the traffic in front?..chill out…stay safe…get home in one peice to your families?+1 nothing but bloody rush rush rush in this country now. As xamtex says, if you want to go faster on mway, OVERTAKE, it’s not friggin rocket science!
absolutely. Its impatient and unprofessional drivers that can not see that.
And its the ones who don’t use their mirrors who can’t see the problems they cause by not keeping up with the flow of traffic.
Someone driving too slow is equally as dangerous as someone driving too fast.
Easy answer if you want to drive slow, just pull over and buy your time parked up, do everyone a favor
zippo:
I have no axe to grind here, but this morning on the M62 eastbound,near to the A19 exit it got a bit silly with trucks swerving and braking and what have you.
When everything got sorted and I got back up to cruising speed there was this stobarts/tesco combo that seemed to be moving at about 40 mph.
My question is.
Do the drivers have to drive at that speed or will the driver by trying to get a fuel bonus?
Maybe they could fit flashing orange beacons to the rear of the trailer like the farmers.
And before the guy (whose user name escapes me) accuses my of tailgating I wasn’t, I was well back but it is still [zb] dangerous in my opinion.
They are limited to 49.5mph, some are faster/slower than others dispite all supposedly being limited to the same speed. Some drivers really do take the biscuit when dragging a job out. If I’m in a stobart wagon and I’m in no rush the slowest I’ll go is 50mph, I don’t see the need to be going any slower on a clear level motorway unless your trying to milk it for every penny.
waynedl:
This is 1 of the few countries in the world where drivers treat cyclists like 2nd class citizens or even lesser users of the carriageways
I certainly agree with what you with this point. There does need to be a big change in attitude towards cyclists amongst motorists as they aren’t going away, they are fully fledged road users whether people like it or not.
However, on the subject of cyclists on NSL dual carriageways, I think there comes a point where a cyclist is prioritising exercising their rights over sheer common sense & looking after their own safety. I find it barmy that somebody would choose to ride their bike down a busy high speed DC, rightly or wrongly the risk is just too high - whether it’s legal or not is irrelevant.
ajt:
Someone driving too slow is equally as dangerous as someone driving too fast.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I always thought it was the impatient fools behind who were the dangerous ones. You live and learn! Well, some of us do…
So we’re impatient when doing 35 in a NSL road with good conditions, because Tom and Doris in their Rover 25 are ambling to their local garden centre? It’s not that the daft old git hasn’t got the reactions anymore to go faster.
Muckaway:
So we’re impatient when doing 35 in a NSL road with good conditions, because Tom and Doris in their Rover 25 are ambling to their local garden centre? It’s not that the daft old git hasn’t got the reactions anymore to go faster.
… Leave Rover 25’s out of this !! (just 'coz I had my dad’s off him and it’s in that pastel ‘Pensioner’ green) 
Muckaway:
So we’re impatient when doing 35 in a NSL road with good conditions, because Tom and Doris in their Rover 25 are ambling to their local garden centre? It’s not that the daft old git hasn’t got the reactions anymore to go faster.
Losing 5mph shouldn’t kill you? But then, you do have your three loads a day to get in and you’re pushed for time are you not? See where the real problem is…? 