Should i help??

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sorry to break it to you buddy, but thats a fact.

i personally dont have a problem with english people, but you’ll have no trouble finding people the world over who do.

yet another fine example of your ignorance to not know that.
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1 How do you know i am english??
2 You don’t , but it suited you to start an anti english rant.
3 If you weren’t anti english you wouldn’t have posted such mindless drivel.

beattun:
is it any wonder the english arent loved the world over?

disclaimer - im not having a crack at the english, thats just some food for thought for the original poster

Actually Beattun, they are loved and respected the world over. Thats probably why it most probably the worlds most popular language. The UK has historically had a large immigrant population, or more specifically England has. Made up funnily enough of a large amount of Irish (my self included). Do you think thats where your train of thought comes from, given that probably next to Iraquis and Afghans, the Irish hate the English more than anyone?!!
Not having a pop at you BTW, just trying to give you some food for thought about who ‘the English’ acually are !!

IF WASN’T FOR THE COUNTRY’S BUSINESSES AND GOVERMENT PUSHING THE LIVING COST THROUGH THE ROOF AND KEEPING THE WAGES DOWN, THEN PEOPLE WOULDN’T BE SO RACISTS, AT THE END OFF THE DAY THEY WANT WORK AND A BETTER LIFE SAME AS THE REST OF US BUT THE BOSSES ARE KEEPING THIER WAGES DOWN TO MAKE THEIR BANK ROLL BIGGER. THEY ARE ALL GETTING GREEDIER AND THE WORKERS KEEP THEM GOING.

ellies dad:
Mike your hardly stooping down to BNP opinions :open_mouth:

Its almost like my finger is poised over the button !! They are cranks thats for sure, but so is the others !! Who knows what i’ll do !! They do have some stuff that is getting to the public now and they are concerned about. Its a shame none of the others ever thought about it before.

steve07:
IF WASN’T FOR THE COUNTRY’S BUSINESSES AND GOVERMENT PUSHING THE LIVING COST THROUGH THE ROOF AND KEEPING THE WAGES DOWN, THEN PEOPLE WOULDN’T BE SO RACISTS, AT THE END OFF THE DAY THEY WANT WORK AND A BETTER LIFE SAME AS THE REST OF US BUT THE BOSSES ARE KEEPING THIER WAGES DOWN TO MAKE THEIR BANK ROLL BIGGER. THEY ARE ALL GETTING GREEDIER AND THE WORKERS KEEP THEM GOING.

You put it a bit cruder than i would of done but you are spot on !!

It’s the truth though mike.

steve07:
It’s the truth though mike.

Hey ! I’m with ya 100%. Your bang on the money.

This has all got a bit off track with the whole racism bit.

The point i am trying to make in the strongest terms is that it is my belief that the average truck driver in the uk is being shafted by the bosses/union big wigs/mp’s. And i don’t see why i should help them do it.
As it happens the guy in question is a thoroughly nice guy and when i explained my position he agreed with me. Because you see the eastern europeans know what it is to get shafted by governments, and they also know how to fight back .

Also when anybody brings up the subject off pay they get told you know where the gate is we can get more immigrants no prob.

For those who don’t see it as a problem, i wonder how you will feel when a similar situation comes to your doorstep. And when you look around for another better paid job you find they no longer exist.

Incidentally many poles/czechs etc hold these exact same views about turks/ukrainians/russians. Ask em. Or perhaps it’s easier to live in a false utopia.

how mutch do east europeans pay to obtain an lgv licence and medicles ect have we got a level playing field

fuse:
have we got a level playing field

the pitch at wembley is a bit wonky, but their was plenty of foreigners on that job to :wink:

If England is so over run by Poles, leading to no jobs and crap wages, how come agencies are trying to get me to go work in the south of england for more money and putting me up in accomdation. Supposedly these places are desperate for drivers.

Other guys ive been working with up here been working down in England which seems to be finacially rewarding enough they can constantly travel back up here on there days off.

I think it comes down to some employers unwilling to pay a decent wage, in some cases greed in some cases operating costs soaring so can’t afford to pay decent wages.

dave:
did,nt the poles fight side by side with the brits in ww2. we helped each other then.

No ■■■■ Sherlock. :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:
What did you expect them to do when Germany invaded,go to Benidorm for 6 years and get a tan? :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:
Wondered how long it would take before the thread got hijacked by Nu Labour… :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :angry: :angry: :angry:

no they could have been like the french ,give in then go with who wins then kick the americans

I have mixed views on the subject. Years ago I would argue that we should all stick together and help each other out etc, regardless of which corner of the globe we come from, but this “sticking together” ■■■■ went out of the window a long time ago. Now it’s every man for himself and ■■■■ anyone that gets in their way, and it’s true.

As much as I’ve never wanted to believe it, I think that the comments Juddian made earlier are (becoming) true :

Listen to the views aired here, not a hope in hell that our lot will ever improve whilst people are prepared to give all their learning away for free to someone who will then teach all his mates., and then replace you.

Those that want to help the destruction of their own jobs, dont complain when we’re fighting each other for a fiver an hour in 3 years time.

In the past 12 months I’ve experienced first hand both a Morrisons driver and Culina driver of Eastern European origins label the English as lazy scum and how their countrymen will be running our country in 10 years time and taken over all our jobs. And then spat on the ground near my feet. :angry:

Yes, okay, who can blame them as we are a lazy country when it comes to work and we should be directing our anger at “the system” and not them, but when you hear stuff like that from them first hand it does enrage you and turn you against them.

You only have to take a look at the jobcentre website to see the impact they’ve had. 2-3 years ago you’d see page after page of £10/hr agency jobs in Northants but now they’re all £8.50-9.00 and it doesn’t take a genius to work out what’s caused that. Wages are on a downturn (esp. agency), there’s no doubt about it.

I have helped them in the past with directions and even leading them right to the door, but I wouldn’t do it now. If they want to cut it in this country then they first of all they can learn to speak the ■■■■■■■ lingo and then they can learn from their mistakes like the rest of us had to do instead of being handed it all on a plate. :angry:

gsm31:
What did you expect them to do when Germany invaded,go to Benidorm for 6 years and get a tan? :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

This gets my quote of the year !!!

Gurner:
can someone please tell me why [zb] is a censored word?

It’s a derogatory term.

Quote snipped to match edit in original. Gurner will remember what his question was, I’m sure. Thanks for answering it for him. L. :grimacing:

they even censor [zb] here for some reason.

anyway, without going off topic again, i just want to clarify once more that im not anti-english, and if i was i wouldnt last too long nor would i want to, on a UK forum, my experiences from travelling have shown me that as a general rule the english are not well liked, and that was why i said what i said.

my original point was that i thought you were being a prick by not helping that bloke, and i stand by it.

and putting spaces in it to get past the auto censor still means it’s not allowed :wink: …Denis F

if we are so lazy why the silly wtd or should we work all hours and kill people like i keep reading about from east europe beatun if we are so hated why do we get so many who risk their lives to come here. perhaps if i was not lazy i could go steeling clothes bags that have been put out for the less well off then whip them to east europe to sell…( IT WAS ON NEWS TONIGHT)

beattun:
the english are not well liked

thing is we don’t give a [zb] - it’s not a popularity contest :stuck_out_tongue: anyway there’s only enough room on a small group of islands for one twinkly eyed loveable race :laughing:

if you have to put spaces in to get past the auto censor that’s the clue it’s not allowed …Denis F

fuse:
if we are so lazy why the silly wtd or should we work all hours and kill people like i keep reading about from east europe beatun if we are so hated why do we get so many who risk their lives to come here. perhaps if i was not lazy i could go steeling clothes bags that have been put out for the less well off then whip them to east europe to sell…( IT WAS ON NEWS TONIGHT)

because they have the opportunity to go to the uk and ireland and make a heap more money to send home, its quite simple really?