In my driving career i have been asked to help other drivers many times. You know the score , new driver give him directions . tell him what’s expected at certain drops or how to secure a load etc. And i was helped by older hands when i first started, in many cases this is the only training there is in the ridiculous world of transport.
However where i in the past have allways been only too happy to help (and gently take the p***) . My boss is now starting to replace leaving drivers with eastern europeans. He asked me this morning to help a new czech guy with directions etc, to which i replied no. I am now being labelled unhelpful and obstructive. My view is why should i help people that are keeping my wages lower than what i could expect to earn were they not here??
After 10 years with the same boss i am now thinking of leaving, i think this is sad because i quite like the job. But it seems bosses are putting profits first AS USUAL.
Is the Czech guy not employed for the same money that you are? If he is I don’t see how he’s knocking your wages down, fine if maybe there was a driver shortage and no eastern europeans to fill the jobs wages might have to rise a bit to attract more UK drivers. To be honest I think there’s so many newbies looking for a start that’s not really the case, they’d just relax the recruitment rules.
As for not helping him, that’s upto you. What would it achieve though, I doubt they’re going to sack him unless he really can’t find his own ■■■’hole’ so by not helping him you’ll just create bad feeling no doubt. If the Czechs who come to work for you are decent enough guys I don’t see any reason not to be helpfull to them other than out of spite, if they’re rude arrogant pigs though then fair enough, same as any driver let them sort it out themselves.
Show them the way mate…THE WRONG WAY !
You had to pass a driving test to the British standards so why shouldn’t they.
I shudder to think were the world would be without British standards.
I would say do as you want, if you feel these people are a lower life form or a threat to your livelihood then you must do as you feel is right. If the boss thinks you are being unhelpful or obstructive, thats because you are, but if you feel you need to make a stand against foreign competition then do it, your British you do not need a reason to do anything sensible or not.
When I am in the UK I help Poles, I speak some of the lingo and usual they give you something nice to eat or drink, loverly people, but I would do that for a British person as well if they asked, I like everyone until they give me a reason not to.
drew128:
I shudder to think were the world would be without British standards.
And I shudder to think how dangerous our roads would become under Eastern European standards. 
i wouldnt help him and even if i did he probably wouldnt understand
Wait for the do-gooders to come crawling out of the woodwork on this one…id tell him to poke his job up his arse, and id tell ■■■■■ to ■■■■ off.
can someone please tell me why [zb] is a censored word?
Taken out now you have an answer - it’s on page 2. L. 
You can shudder all you want, I get well and truly shuddered when I am here in the UK, I find the shuddering in Poland for instance to be much nicer shuddering, at the moment I am in Danmark having a shudderingly good time.
You must go to Eastern Europe in winter and see how shuddery good you really are, those are standards to aspire to.
As someone who has been there 10 years you should be able to have a straight-forward conversation with your boss as to why he’s taken Czechs over Brits.
Are the Czechs keeping your wages lower? Is the ‘annual’ pay round due?
My view is that by not helping the Czechs people that would have been your allies will believe the boss instead. Your digging a big hole for yourself, but instead of stopping digging your going to need a bigger ladder.
Stan
WHAT is it that gets people reacting in such a rabid way,
if this person who has started to work in the UK can speak
read and write english good enough to get a job,but does
not know his way around the UK, give him a hand,I was
given a hand when i first started work in germany,as
my knowledge was not perfect and even now after working
here over 25 years i am still learning some thing new everday.
as long as the person speaks the language that is spoken
in the land where they work, then i have no problems at all
why because i have to be able to converse,write and read
german or i would not be able to work by my firm,
drew128:
I shudder to think were the world would be without British standards.
yes where would we be if we didnt have rules…FRANCE
and where would we be if there was too many rules…GERMANY
you gotto love al murray 
why not help ? if you were abroad driving and stopped to ask directions surely you’d want someone to help you !
Shudder me timbers!
I am not a do gooder Gurner But I will/do help anyone out. I think with your attitude I would get rid of you first.
Try driving in Poland or Chezc for the first time without asking for help and you will see the other side of the coin.
Here we go again.
The whole point of this thread is that the eastern europeans are keeping wages down. No pay increase for 3 years £6.80p an hour.That is why brits are leaving and being replaced whith cheaper labour. Anybody who does not think this is the case is thick!!! I personally do not want to live in a caravan like them ( i prefer a volvo (joke)) so need to earn more.
This has nothing to do with where they come from or there standards of driving/work/hygiene purely that the bosses are laughing all the way to the bank and then expect us to help them do it.
By the way i spent several happy years running ex soviet bloc so i know what the weather conditions are like. And yes i was helped by them . But good drivers■■? Some maybe but the majority were bloody awful, some of the most horrendous accidents i ever saw were out there and due to poor driving. Strangely enough i found the russians to be good drivers especially those working for sovtrans.
to me it does,nt matter who / what nationallity the driver is , i would still give him directions or a hand and hope he / she would do the same for me.
did,nt the poles fight side by side with the brits in ww2. we helped each other then.
i have,nt done much truck driving on the continent but i know other drivers would help me out. because thats what drivers do over there,
which is what it was like here 20 / 30 years ago before it changed to im alright jack uk.
in a career were you are constantly learning new stuff isnt it best to have a helping hand rather than do it the hard way on your own 
NO as i think by helping id be letting a lot of fellow brit drivers down, mainly agency who are struggling for work due to all the foreigners taking the reg jobs at firms meaning they dont get asked in regulary like they used to.
talking to a chap at a r.d.c and he said his wages had dropped from 800 pounds a week too 650 pounds a week since the poles had arrived 
ady1:
talking to a chap at a r.d.c and he said his wages had dropped from 800 pounds a week too 650 pounds a week since the poles had arrived
Thats the funniest thing ive heard all week 
Gurner:
ady1:
talking to a chap at a r.d.c and he said his wages had dropped from 800 pounds a week too 650 pounds a week since the poles had arrivedThats the funniest thing ive heard all week
he wasnt laughing one bit , well ■■■■■■ off with poles.