Should i help??

[drew128]

Great, now who would win in a punch up■■?

Poles sorry eurotrash flatheads who do not know how to wash or the Brits.

One nation who endured a couple of nasty occupations in recent history and help bring an end to Communism in in large parts of Eastern Europe, many died standing up to these far greater foes, but won over despite striking with a threat of being fired on. bah bah bah!

Or the nation that won something in 1966 and moan a lot.

The Brits stand no chance, the Poles will raise their arms and you will be overcome with the fumes or get side swiped by a eurotrash truck as he cooks some cabbage on a stove on the steering wheel.

Vi ses

[newmercman]

Us English may not be so good on the footy pitch anymore but we are the clear winners when it comes to World Wars,

GREAT BRITAIN 2

Rest of the World 0

Yeah the Poles did well going on strike in Gdansk but we kicked their arse at that too, no nation can strike like the Brits, not even the French

And do you really think think that us English would’ve succumbed to Communism, no way Boris, no way we would allow an unelected leader from a foreign country run things

[drew128]

When was Mr Brown elected?

[newmercman]

drew128:
When was Mr Brown elected?

Ahh the penny drops

There we go another thing we lead the world in, sarcasm

[drew128]

Agreed, sarcasm we do much better, along with pies.

[newmercman]

drew128:
Agreed, sarcasm we do much better, along with pies.

[mike-c]

newmercman:
Us English may not be so good on the footy pitch anymore but we are the clear winners when it comes to World Wars,

GREAT BRITAIN 2

Rest of the World 0

Yeah the Poles did well going on strike in Gdansk but we kicked their arse at that too, no nation can strike like the Brits, not even the French

And do you really think think that us English would’ve succumbed to Communism, no way Boris, no way we would allow an unelected leader from a foreign country run things

Well we allow the Scots and Welsh a lot more publicly funded stuff than we get ourselves. We also allow the anomally that lets an MP from Fife in a ‘devolved’ country run the English Government !! Go figure. Oh, and the best is, according to the press this week, seeing as not enough of us mugs now want to join the Army and be used as firing practice for Iraquis and Afghans, courtesy of the Americans, they are considering moves indeed asking for Poles to be allowed to joing the British Army!! Just a shame they don’t deport us to OZ anymore for crimes as i reckon a load of us would be commiting them to get sent down their !!

[drew128]

I have to say when I move over there later this year, pies I will miss greatly. I do have my Lech Walesa “a hundred ways to cook cabbage” cookbook but I fear I will be pieless soon

[newmercman]

drew128:
I have to say when I move over there later this year, pies I will miss greatly. I do have my Lech Walesa “a hundred ways to cook cabbage” cookbook but I fear I will be pieless soon

I must be imagining things did you really say that you’re moving out there WHY

[shrek]

Mike-C:
Oh, and the best is, according to the press this week, seeing as not enough of us mugs now want to join the Army and be used as firing practice for Iraquis and Afghans, courtesy of the Americans, they are considering moves indeed asking for Poles to be allowed to joing the British Army!!

What an excellent idea!

We could give them the keys to some of those big army trucks and let them drive aimlessly around Afghan and Iraq…with the ensuing damage caused, we, as a Nation, would save millions in ammo we don’t need to fire!

Just kiddin’ all you Polish dudes…cheap shot, but I liked it anyway!

[drew128]

We can not send the Poles to war for Britian, who is going to pick all the fruit?

Food for thought though Shrek… Judging by the efforts of some shoppers in the local Tescos carpark I reckon we could have a crack squad of death and destruction in Fiat Pandas…

No forget that, there would be too much friendly fire in such a plan

[smile]

orys:

smile!:
hold a VALID permit to work in this country?

EC Citizens don’t need any permits to work here.

in my opinion they should though. the differences between our country and a lot of some others in the “EU” are vast.

this whole incentive of ‘making us all one’ under a supposedly happy family banner of “EU” is doing more harm than good, both economically and socially

[newmercman]

smile!:

orys:

smile!:
hold a VALID permit to work in this country?

EC Citizens don’t need any permits to work here.

in my opinion they should though. the differences between our country and a lot of some others in the “EU” are vast.

this whole incentive of ‘making us all one’ under a supposedly happy family banner of “EU” is doing more harm than good, both economically and socially

Do us all a favour then & have a word with your fellow Scots down in Westminster before it’s too late, they’ve given most of our £ away to you lot north of the border & the sheep shaggers & they’re givin all our rights away to Brussels & the Belgians can’t even agree on which language to speak & they put mayonaise on their chips FFS[/i]

[mike-c]

smile!:

orys:

smile!:
hold a VALID permit to work in this country?

EC Citizens don’t need any permits to work here.

in my opinion they should though. the differences between our country and a lot of some others in the “EU” are vast.

this whole incentive of ‘making us all one’ under a supposedly happy family banner of “EU” is doing more harm than good, both economically and socially

In theory though Smile, its a good idea. And it should work too. I think the fact it has all been engineered by global buisnesses who are just looking for the next victim to exploit has been its social undoing as far as the working UK public are concerned. For any buisnesses here its been a godsend having an availability of lots of cheap labour.
Its also highlighted our very own ‘benefits generation’ and also highlighted the fact that many of the social services we have (NHS/DWP/Councils etc…) are grossly overpaid and underproviding !! Wonder why we are one of the few not to use the Euro? Maybe it doesn’t fit in with us being the ‘financial capital of the world’.
To go back to the original posters point though, not helping a foreign guy is rather childish. If he had any real principles and a put your money where your mouth is attitude he would of told his employer how he felt and done something more proactive about what he sees as ‘jobs being taken’ and not pusy footed about like a kid.

[robb39]

Just a little history lesson about our Polish brothers.

Copied and abbreviated from this source. kasprzyk.demon.co.uk/www/index.html

On September 1st., 1939, 1.8 million German troops invaded Poland on three fronts; East Prussia in the north, Germany in the west and Slovakia in the south. They had 2600 tanks against the Polish 180, and over 2000 aircraft against the Polish 420. Their “Blitzkrieg” tactics, coupled with their bombing of defenceless towns and refugees, had never been seen before and, at first, caught the Poles off-guard.

By September 14th. Warsaw was surrounded. At this stage the poles reacted, holding off the Germans at Kutno and regrouping behind the Wisla (Vistula) and Bzura rivers. Although Britain and France declared war on September 3rd. the Poles received no help - yet it had been agreed that the Poles should fight a defensive campaign for only 2 weeks during which time the Allies could get their forces together and attack from the west.

The Poles had held on for twice as long as had been expected and had done more damage to the Germans than the combined British and French forces were to do in 1940. The Germans lost 50,000 men, 697 planes and 993 tanks and armoured cars.

The Polish Army, Navy and Air Force reorganised abroad and continued to fight the Germans. In fact they have the distinction of being the only nation to fight on every front in the War.

In 1940 they fought in France, in the Norwegian campaign they earned a reputation for bravery at Narvik, and in Africa the Carpathian Brigade fought at Tobruk.

Polish Squadrons played an important role in the Battle of Britain, accounting for 12% of all German aircraft destroyed at the cost of 33 lives. By the end of the war they had flown a total of 86,527 sorties, lost 1669 men and shot down 500 German planes and 190 V1 rockets.

The Polish Navy, which had escaped intact, consisted of 60 vessels, including 2 cruisers, 9 destroyers and 5 submarines**.The first German ship sunk in the war was sunk by Polish ships**. The Navy also took part in the D-Day landings.

At Yalta, in February 1945, the Allies put Poland within the Russian zone of influence in a post-war Europe. To most Poles the meaning of these events was perfectly clear; Poland had been betrayed.

At one stage the Polish Army, still fighting in Italy and Germany, was prepared to withdraw from the front lines in protest; after all, they were supposed to be fighting for Polish liberation.

It is a reflection on Polish honour that no such withdrawal took place since it could leave large gaps in the front lines and so was considered too dangerous for their Allied comrades-in-arms.

The Brits SOLD THE POLES DOWN THE RIVER! I think we owe them something.

If we hadn’t left them to the Russians (For which we were paid a reward by their linesman in 1966) they too could have had a decent economy etc and maybe wouldn’t be coming here looking for work,…what goes around comes around so they say.

[mike-c]

robB39:
The Brits SOLD THE POLES DOWN THE RIVER! I think we owe them something.

If we hadn’t left them to the Russians (For which we were paid a reward by their linesman in 1966) they too could have had a decent economy etc and maybe wouldn’t be coming here looking for work,…what goes around comes around so they say.

The British government sold them down the river, not ‘Brits’, there’s a big difference. There’s enough Brits laying in graves across Europe as testimony to that, they where fighting for freedom wheren’t they? And there’s also Polish clubs and centres in most towns and cities, not recent ones but ones from wartime, that should show how welcome Poles are here. And that’ll be the same British government that has been heavily critiscised for sending troops to Afghan and Iraq without any proper equiptment and now wants to send Poles there on our behalf !! As you say what comes around goes around, and around and around and around !!!

[newmercman]

Mike-C:

robB39:
The Brits SOLD THE POLES DOWN THE RIVER! I think we owe them something.

If we hadn’t left them to the Russians (For which we were paid a reward by their linesman in 1966) they too could have had a decent economy etc and maybe wouldn’t be coming here looking for work,…what goes around comes around so they say.

The British government sold them down the river, not ‘Brits’, there’s a big difference. There’s enough Brits laying in graves across Europe as testimony to that, they where fighting for freedom wheren’t they? And there’s also Polish clubs and centres in most towns and cities, not recent ones but ones from wartime, that should show how welcome Poles are here. And that’ll be the same British government that has been heavily critiscised for sending troops to Afghan and Iraq without any proper equiptment and now wants to send Poles there on our behalf !! As you say what comes around goes around, and around and around and around !!!

Exactly, nobody on here is slagging the Polish race off, there are legitimate points being made about them working all the hours under the sun, having accidents, smelling like a wet dog & working for peanuts, THAT is the point

[robb39]

Mike-C:
The British government sold them down the river, not ‘Brits’, there’s a big difference. There’s enough Brits laying in graves across Europe as testimony to that, they where fighting for freedom wheren’t they?

I’ll concede on that point Mike.

If we hadn’t got involved the German plan of genocide was to exterminate the Poles off the face of the planet; - target date 1975. There’d be no Poles working here then.

Mike-C:
And there’s also Polish clubs and centers in most towns and cities, not recent ones but ones from wartime, that should show how welcome Poles are here. And that’ll be the same British government that has been heavily criticized for sending troops to Afghan and Iraq without any proper equipment and now wants to send Poles there on our behalf !! As you say what comes around goes around, and around and around and around !!!

Yes, unfortunately due to the collective amnesia of many.

[drew128]

I live in an area north of Częstochowa, there is a number of bullet holes in the older buildings still to see. In a village 5 km from our village is a grave yard to 400 men young and old who were executed when the Germans invaded. There is a old guy in the village who lost all his family, he was sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau, he still has his workers card.

My wifes father when talking about these times says the Germans were bad, did some very nasty things to his family during occupation, but they were never as bad for him as the Russians were when they arrived. He never really understood that the allies won the war, yet they were still occupied.

He took his first visit outside Poland and came with his wife to visit England last year. He told me that it was a great honor for him to visit England as they had tried to help Poland, in that respect it upsets me to see his country men treated as dirt when they arrive here.

[mike-c]

drew128:
in that respect it upsets me to see his country men treated as dirt when they arrive here.

I’ve heard plenty of people whinge about them Drew, but i’ve never seen them treated in any bad way at all, or heard of it really. My limited experience with them is that they are accepted fully without question at all, the Polish guys who come in our boozer are part of the local scenery just like the rest of us now !!