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That’s got load shift written all over it.
I always use corners and straps with reels.
DFDS won’t release the load out of Immingham unless you have used corners and straps.
goshow:
Honked:
That’s got load shift written all over it.
I always use corners and straps with reels.
DFDS won’t release the load out of Immingham unless you have used corners and straps.
I do around 40 loads a year like this, never strapped a single one. Drive to the load and the road and you won’t go wrong.
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goshow:
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That’s got load shift written all over it.
I always use corners and straps with reels.
DFDS won’t release the load out of Immingham unless you have used corners and straps.
I do around 40 loads a year like this, never strapped a single one. Drive to the load and the road and you won’t go wrong.
WOWZER!!!
You’re kidding me right?
Ok, I won’t dispute that you’ve done 40 loads a year like that and you may well do another 40 but, sooner or later that lot will come through your curtain.
I can tell you ain’t been checked by the DVSA when carrying reels like that.
Used to have to rope and sheet them years ago. They would put them on there side all along the deck of a 40 trailer then 2 up in the nip. Which means 2 on top, why they called it “up in the nip” I have no idea. Rachet strap where rare beasts then it was 2 main sheets and a fly. If you did it properly you walk from the front of the trailer up the fly sheet to the top of the load. You double dollied around the 2 up top the last one on the deck because the would move, always bounced to the N/S, so you put some tension on them ropes. Reason they bounced was the suspension was steel springs, none of your namby pamby air suspension!!!
Honked:
Trick is with a load like that is to get the reels into the curtain and no gaps between the reels. You need a experienced good forkie to do that. Used to load giant bog rolls out of Ramsbottom, they where just stood on end and the forkies knew what they where doing. Safe as houses, if it was a gap at the back I would put internals on to keep the pressure on the rest of the load, most did not even do this and there never was an accident. Had my say not getting it to one those pathetic, cut and paste arguments, because I do know what I am doing.
The best way to rachet down reels on their end is to lean the straps back as they go down the sides of the reels.
That way, if you brake a little on the hard side, if they try and “shift forward” - they are moving into the strap “slings” you’ve set up, rather than just popping out of a straight up-down loop, and probably trying to lunge out the side curtains.
IF you are able to put the reels actually side by side rather than “staggered” up the trailer, then you can get away with strapping “backwards”, because there is more danger of a load shift “backwards” when the reels are chock up against the headboard, and braced against each other at the sides as well.
Worked on reels constantly all of 2006 & 2007 using curtainsiders, never strapped a load and neither did my 12 x colleagues. Main & secondary reels all standing, no incidents, no straps internal or ratchet. However you definitely wanted to take it easy on roundabouts when fully loaded as we always were on the way to a newspaper printworks. I believe same firm now run them in their sides in cradles, shotgun style in two lines front to back.
If these are reels of paper they need back scotch without a shadow of a doubt, use very strong ratchet straps also.
Used to do reels in coblefret trailers they were always loaded standing on end with ratchet straps with plastic protectors
Loaded a lot of reels in France for the UK and the UK to France, the only stipulation was that the trailer deck was dry, swept clean and lined with paper and anti slip mats used, straps were not allowed as they could damage the edge of the reels. We put large hydraulic axle stands under the chassis or dropped support legs on the trailer so the clamp trucks could drive inside.
Wheel Nut:
Loaded a lot of reels in France for the UK and the UK to France, the only stipulation was that the trailer deck was dry, swept clean and lined with paper and anti slip mats used, straps were not allowed as they could damage the edge of the reels. We put large hydraulic axle stands under the chassis or dropped support legs on the trailer so the clamp trucks could drive inside.
Just Interested,In the late 90s I loaded by a similar method In a mill on the outskirts of Rouen,was it the same mill by chance.
regards dave.
Many years ago,when London had working docks,I’m sure I recall paper rolls being carried on flatbeds(by Convoys Tpt.?)on the roll chocked,the upper layer being secured(?)by a rope tied from the headboard along the top of the lower layer along the sides of the upper layer then tied to hooks at deck level at the rear.Rarely a tarpaulin or fly sheet either.Not far to the newspaper printers but no one raised an eyebrow at the time.
dafdave:
Wheel Nut:
Loaded a lot of reels in France for the UK and the UK to France, the only stipulation was that the trailer deck was dry, swept clean and lined with paper and anti slip mats used, straps were not allowed as they could damage the edge of the reels. We put large hydraulic axle stands under the chassis or dropped support legs on the trailer so the clamp trucks could drive inside.Just Interested,In the late 90s I loaded by a similar method In a mill on the outskirts of Rouen,was it the same mill by chance.
regards dave.
It sounds very much like it, just off a roundabout on an industrial estate. GCA tankers had a depot nearby
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daftvader:
Rowley010:
Time and time again I see other drivers securing reels with internal trailer straps. Yes or no is this ok or not?I always use ratchets but I’m starting to wonder if I’m wasting my time throwing them all over, putting edge protectors on and then tightening them all up when I could just quickly put internals on, seeing as this seems to be the “done thing” more than using ratchets!
Do alot of reels…And i mostly use ratchets & Corners…But on some of the smaller single reels then i use internals…But to be honest.All depends on if you feel comfortable enough securing it that way…If not.Don’t worry about what others are doing…And secure it so that your happy with the load…
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How many years did we do it without straps mate
I used to load out of Convoys at Deptford, reels on the roll … and deliver to the Daily Record in Glasgow when they were on the quayside… they didn’t mess about in Glasgow, you backed onto the loading dock which was on a slight incline, the clamp driver put his weight against the back reel while you took all your chocks out and then he reversed away quickly and you were tipped in about 10 seconds… and they had a great canteen for breakfast while our transport office thought we were grafting away all day…
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daftvader:
Rowley010:
Time and time again I see other drivers securing reels with internal trailer straps. Yes or no is this ok or not?I always use ratchets but I’m starting to wonder if I’m wasting my time throwing them all over, putting edge protectors on and then tightening them all up when I could just quickly put internals on, seeing as this seems to be the “done thing” more than using ratchets!
Do alot of reels…And i mostly use ratchets & Corners…But on some of the smaller single reels then i use internals…But to be honest.All depends on if you feel comfortable enough securing it that way…If not.Don’t worry about what others are doing…And secure it so that your happy with the load…
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How many years did we do it without straps mate
Alot mate thats for sure…Never managed to lose any either…Must put that down to luck…The way i drive…lol
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We pick up reels from Tilbury, and we don’t get out of the gate unless we’ve ratchet strapped the load. So most of us will take at least 10 straps and plenty of corners with us.
I suppose there’s a reasonable argument that if the lorry was unfortunate enought to roll over, a load strapped correctly would be less likely to come shooting through the fibreglass roof and into the path of other traffic than a load ‘restrained’ with internals. So it’s not just about whether a load will come through the curtains.
Got to agree with Dennis, Done 100’s of loads of reels in the 90’s, on end, on the deck, high one’s low one’s double stacked etc,
They never moved, put a internal ■■■■■■■■ the front and rear, if they not against the headboard, hammered in a few chocks if they where on the roll.
Now if I was being H/S I would tie a rope over the back chocks to make sure they wouldn’t move.
This Day and age I wonder how anything is done when you got to put loads of ratchet straps on every thing, Kite mark curtains, bump hat, the list goes on & on.
I did a few days on general Haulage after a 15 year gap and I just couldn’t believe the h/s crap what goes on. cant climb up the side of the trailer, Then when I did climb onto the load bed when I was picking up a load of cardboard the flt driver stopped dead and switched off engine cos of the H/S risk! Heh, No wonder this country is in such a state, its gets my blood boiling.
And no I never had a load shift. 3 ton load strap? do you need it to hold reels on? well each to their own
Trukkertone:
I used to load out of Convoys at Deptford, reels on the roll
Convoys was a regular for us, our yard was just up the road off Plough Way, always on the roll , bottom layer had nailed in wedges and a back scotch -Dollied both sides, then roped front to back over the top of the reels, and dollied, the top layer then sat on the ropes tightening them even more, then sheeted and dollied down between the reels.
Unloading was often on top , loosen all ropes, remove back scotch and first lot of wedges then bar the first set of reels off towards the back and work up the load using the bar to roll them towards the back, the top layer would drop down as the one below moved obviously.
Elf and safety would have a fit nowadays
ezydriver:
We pick up reels from Tilbury, and we don’t get out of the gate unless we’ve ratchet strapped the load. So most of us will take at least 10 straps and plenty of corners with us.I suppose there’s a reasonable argument that if the lorry was unfortunate enought to roll over, a load strapped correctly would be less likely to come shooting through the fibreglass roof and into the path of other traffic than a load ‘restrained’ with internals. So it’s not just about whether a load will come through the curtains.
I too pick up reels out of Tilbury…And have done for the last 10yrs…If your on about Stora…Then that not getting out the gate without strapping them.Has’nt been implemented long…But its there rules and i’m payed hourly so i’m really not fussed about strapping them.Although having said that.We take loads to Thurrrock.And the reels are all large singles.Staggered load.And you really would have to go some to have them move…
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