ERF MAN:
El Griffo:
The only way there will ever be a YES vote is if the English are allowed to vote as well.good point well made
Wonder what the vote will be if they let the whole uk vote
irish lorries:
ERF MAN:
El Griffo:
The only way there will ever be a YES vote is if the English are allowed to vote as well.good point well made
Wonder what the vote will be if they let the whole uk vote
Result ------ “re-build hadrians wall” by an over whelming majority !! 
Bewick.
Where’s “Carryfast” he has all the answers and if he declares independence for Wessex he has promised me a job as Minister for Square wheels and horses.Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
irish lorries:
ERF MAN:
El Griffo:
The only way there will ever be a YES vote is if the English are allowed to vote as well.good point well made
Wonder what the vote will be if they let the whole uk vote
Result ------ “re-build hadrians wall” by an over whelming majority !!
The illegal immigrants could build it wonder what Mr Seamus O’Carryfast would have to say about that
Bewick:
Where’s “Carryfast” he has all the answers and if he declares independence for Wessex he has promised me a job as Minister for Square wheels and horses.Cheers Bewick.
No chance Bewick.I’ve reached an agreement with our Mercian neighbours that ■■■■■■■ and it’s residents will be given the choice of either returning to being a part of Scotland or being a Danish colony again. 
I’m still waiting for one person to tell me how Scotland will be better off ruled from Brussels instead of London/Edinburgh.
I have just read in the Guardian that the English will cut back public spending in Scotland & reduce the numbers of MP,s in Scotland if there in a no vote. I urge all Scotland voters to liberate themselves from Westminster.
Don’t let them cut public spending in Scotland.
Jazzandy:
Mr. McWilliam, I put my name on that last post because I’m a Scot though unable to vote because I live in England. Being a highland Scot I am very conscious that it was the lowlanders who sold out to the English but once it was done it was done!It wasn’t England that forced you to buy ferries in Poland and Germany. It was your incompetent SNP. They have no interest in industrial matters because they are so left wing. All they want to do is spend spend spend other people’s money - the same policy that bankrupted Britain only more so.
All that the SNP have to do now is to buy Fergusons and make it a subsidiary of Calmac. Simples!
Let’s see if they have any appetite or nowse to do it!
Or do you just want to continue relying on England to keep your yards working?
Kick the English in the face once too often and watch what happens.
No one is kicking the English in the face, just because I do not want to be ruled by the out of touch Westminster does not mean that I am anti English I feel for the English of the regions because their Government does not care about them all it cares about is London and the South East
The Scottish government of what ever party cares more about the Scottish people then what Westminster does.
The English will always remain our close friends but look at how well the IRish have done since they. Broke free of Westminster, the Irish are independent yet still remain close to England.
McWilliam:
Jazzandy:
Mr. McWilliam, I put my name on that last post because I’m a Scot though unable to vote because I live in England. Being a highland Scot I am very conscious that it was the lowlanders who sold out to the English but once it was done it was done!It wasn’t England that forced you to buy ferries in Poland and Germany. It was your incompetent SNP. They have no interest in industrial matters because they are so left wing. All they want to do is spend spend spend other people’s money - the same policy that bankrupted Britain only more so.
All that the SNP have to do now is to buy Fergusons and make it a subsidiary of Calmac. Simples!
Let’s see if they have any appetite or nowse to do it!
Or do you just want to continue relying on England to keep your yards working?
Kick the English in the face once too often and watch what happens.
No one is kicking the English in the face, just because I do not want to be ruled by the out of touch Westminster does not mean that I am anti English I feel for the English of the regions because their Government does not care about them all it cares about is London and the South East
The Scottish government of what ever party cares more about the Scottish people then what Westminster does.
The English will always remain our close friends but look at how well the IRish have done since they. Broke free of Westminster, the Irish are independent yet still remain close to England.
The fact is ‘London and the South East’ have got less out of the whole UK ‘and’ English union deal than Scotland has economically and as a proportion of what we’ve put into it.Which is why I’ve said seriously,not just jokingly,we’d have been better off if Athelstan hadn’t made the mistake of signing us up to the English,let alone UK,union.Maybe it’s that issue which the Unionists amongst the English government are more bothered about than the idea of letting the UK union go.IE the UK union possibly ( hopefully ) breaking up now,then the English one later on the same grounds being that the reasoning is the same. 
Jazzandy:
I’m still waiting for one person to tell me how Scotland will be better off ruled from Brussels instead of London/Edinburgh.
Because independence doesn’t mean being stuck with a pro EU leadership in the form of Salmond.IE there’s nothing stopping the Scots from voting for independence and then rejecting EU membership afterwards.
That’s the best reason you can come up with■■?
Jazzandy:
That’s the best reason you can come up with■■?
Why doesn’t that answer the question being that there’s no link whatsoever between Scottish independence and EU membership other than the fact that the person who led the move to independence is obviously pro EU.IE nationalist when it suits him and federalist when it doesn’t.Which seems to follow the Irish model.But isn’t set in stone being that EU membership is obviously a matter for the,then independent,Scottish population to decide not Salmond.
McWilliam:
I have just read in the Guardian that the English will cut back public spending in Scotland & reduce the numbers of MP,s in Scotland if there in a no vote. I urge all Scotland voters to liberate themselves from Westminster.Don’t let them cut public spending in Scotland.
Surprised they said that before the vote
The Yes campaign are clearly getting desperate if they’re circulating this rubbish.
The SNP are left of Labour. Someone needs to tell them that in order to spend everyone else’s money, there has to be wealth creation. They’ve already massaged the oil figures. The banks will move south. Shipbuilding will cease. What’s left for them to plunder?
Thought we should bring some humour into the thread!
On September 18th, Scotland will vote on the controversial issue of independence. While this may seem like a noble goal, the Scots risk throwing their identity into the dustbin of history with such a hasty maneuver.
Journalist Derby Mack noted earlier this year that the socialist element could potentially turn this newborn nation into the next “Cuba or Afghanistan” and has urged all Americans to voice their concern over this crisis in England.
Today, let’s imagine what the future of Scotland might look like if the agitators have their way and Scotland gains independence. This is a speculative timeline, but it is based on the harsh realities of modern geopolitics. As such, it is clear that if Scotland frees itself from English protection and financial assistance, it may not last past the year 2030.
The Future History of Independent Scotland: 2015-2030
2015: Constitutional Crisis Over Direction of New Country: Communism or Capitalism?
2015: Scotland’s Socialist and Green Parties Work Together to Propose Housing Programs, Drug Decriminalization, Amnesty for Illegal Aliens and a Federal Work Corps
2016: Referendum on Severing Ties With Royal Family Passes, Balmoral Occupied By Anti-Royalist Student Groups
2016: Liberalized Immigration Policies Invite Influx of Hoodlums, Travelers and Drug Addicts
2016: In an Attempt to Gain Momentum for the Scottish Nationalist Party, Alex Salmond Announces Ill-Fated Trillion-Dollar Space Program to Inspire Scottish Pride
2017: Government Costs Spiral Out of Control, World Bank Calls in Loans, Coalition SSP-SNP Government Falters
2017: Salmond Outmaneuvered By Socialist Leader Sandra Webster, Who Rises as New Prime Minister
2017: Industry Nationalized, Private Property Seized, Churches Closed
2017: Scottish Nationalist Art Movement Launched, Works From Shakespeare and Dickens to Michael Caine and Kate Winslet Declared “Foreign and Derivative” and Burned in Public Squares
2017: America Boycotts Scottish Golf Courses, Economy Sinks Even Further
2017: Fife Separatist Movement Turns Violent, Norway Seizes Shetland Islands
Will the “old guard” be welcome in the “New Frontier”?
Will the “old guard” be welcome in the “New Frontier”?
2018: “Secretary General of Scotland” Sandra Webster Announces Price Controls and Food Rationing, Ireland Sends Relief to Famine Sufferers in the Highlands
2018: Alistair Darling Arrested for His Political Views, Memoirs Smuggled Out of Prison and Published to Great Acclaim in America
2018: Government Confiscates All Private Weapons, From Medieval Swords to Modern Hunting Rifles
2019: Workers’ Riots in Glasgow and Edinburgh Destroy Entire Neighborhoods
2019: Webster Bulks Up Armed Forces to Deal With Internal Dissent
2020: Political Show Trials Commence, Popular Figures Such as Colin Fox and Ewan McGregor Sentenced for “Crimes Against the Motherland”
2020: Banishment From European Union and World Trade Organization
2020: Homegrown Terrorism Erupts, Dumfriesshire Closed to Press and Foreigners
2020: Coup by Military, Led by Reconstituted Cameron Highlanders
2021: Refugees Flee Brutal Scottish Regime and Flood Into Northern England
2021: England Reconstructs Hadrian’s Wall, Border Security Tightens
2021: Humanitarian Crisis Declared by United Nations, Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders Sent Into Galloway
2021: New Military Junta Signs Treaties With Russia, China, North Korea
2021: Golf Outlawed as “Too American,” Courses Becomes Heroin Rehab Clinics and Council Estates for Immigrants
2021: Emboldened Military Moves on Isle of Man
2021: NATO Naval Blockade of Scotland
2021: Black Market Economy Thrives, Mafia Gains Power
2021: Britain Declares “No Fly Zone” Over Scotland, Though Diminished Air Force Has Difficulty Enforcing It
2022: Mafia Makes Aberdeen the “New Amsterdam,” Infamous for Hashish, ■■■ Tourism
Has Blair Jenkins been honest about his personal ambitions for a militarized Scotland?
Why has Blair Jenkins been so silent about his personal ambitions for a Scottish “Empire”?
2024: In Response to Public Panic at Epidemic Crime, Blair Jenkins Seizes Power, Proclaims Himself “Prime Minister for Life”
2024: Prime Minister Jenkins Sells Off Key State Assets to Insider Oligarchs
2025: Scotland Announces It Has Acquired “Nuclear Suitcases” From China
2025: Outer Hebrides Declares Independence, Battles in the Region Will Continue for Years
2027: Oligarchs Transfer Major Wealth Outside of Country, Local Economy in Shambles
2027: Scotland Moves on Norway’s Oil Reserves, United Nations Too Paralyzed to React
2027: Jenkins Sends Troops Into Northern Ireland, Claiming Scots Need “Living Space”
2028: Separatist Movement in Wales Declares Allegiance to Scotland, Jenkins Sets His Sights on Denmark
2028: Great Britain Declares War, Is Defeated in Early Battles Due to Smuggled Russian Armaments
2028: Scotland Occupies British Lands From Northumberland to Lancashire
2029: Terrorist Attack on American Military Installations Linked to Scottish Agents
2029: U.S. Declares War on Scotland
2029: Scottish Troops Make Incursion to Heart of England, London Burns
2029: France, Russia, North Korea Declare War on U.S.
2029: United Nations Dissolved, World War III Begins
2030: Scotland?
Could Scotland set off a chain of events that lead to total war?
Is Scotland at risk of setting off a chain of events that could lead to total war?
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Jazzandy where the ■■■■ did you hear that 
It’s on an American website.
Scary or what?
Jazzandy:
It’s on an American website.Scary or what?
Should of new it would be some American
who cares if we split or stay, were [zb]'d either way
irish lorries:
Jazzandy:
It’s on an American website.Scary or what?
Should of new it would be some American
The place where Lincoln won the Civil War.Where Federal power overrules state rights and sovereignty.Instead of repatriating imported African slave labour they eventually import more south American Spanish labour to add to the ever growing ethnic African population.Then they export loads more jobs to China after losing 50,000 people fighting them.The US economy gradually goes down the tubes together with the ethnic English colonists being a minority ruled by the African/Spanish majority.The place spirals into inter ethnic strife with the remaining ethnic British colonists trying to hold the line by keeping control of law enforcement and the national guard agencies.