raymundo:
If that is the case why are they (the shysters in London) so desperate now to keep Scotland in the Union if it’s been such a financial burden for the last 300 years ■■ do they know something they did not want Scotland to know by any chance? Like the rest of the Union would be [zb] without them !!
A good question why does the Westminister establishment want to keep Scotland. They did the same with South Armargh where nearly 100% of the population asked to join Eire, Westminister (read Thatcher) would not let them instead they sent in the tanks & a warzone was created, the same will happen in Scotland.
raymundo:
If that is the case why are they (the shysters in London) so desperate now to keep Scotland in the Union if it’s been such a financial burden for the last 300 years ■■ do they know something they did not want Scotland to know by any chance? Like the rest of the Union would be [zb] without them !!
A good question why does the Westminister establishment want to keep Scotland. They did the same with South Armargh where nearly 100% of the population asked to join Eire, Westminister (read Thatcher) would not let them instead they sent in the tanks & a warzone was created, the same will happen in Scotland.
It seems obvious that the Scottish electorate in this case are being subject to a barrage of biased pro unionist/federalist propaganda in the media much like happened here in the case of the EEC referendum in 1975.
The result in this case probably being the democratic contradiction of an SNP majority in the Scottish parliament but a minority referendum result in favour of a Scottish independence.
Which is the likely result of a UKIP/Conservative alliance majority at the next election together with a majority referendum result in favour of staying in the EU.Not exactly a great advert for ‘democracy’.
Few important , what currency? I do not see a problem for new one but banksters are against on it, so … What then?
Btw if there is no independence with currency union - vide euro , we were told lies while joining euro and been told to not to worry about euro-currency union because it is great idea . Obviously it is not - euro is dead anyway. Is Nigel right now ?
If Scotland will have to apply for eu reunion then why England Wales, NI without SCOLAND don’t? Cos what? Both parties will change its area, government somehow indeed.
And finally can’t imagine doing customs on way with box for lidl Livingston from tees and reloaded back to tees again customs, What a joke it would be.
I wish you all scot all the best on your own, but I am sure queen will sign for third ww sooner than will let you go free.
It doesn’t matter if Scotland gets independence ,they will still have politicians making decisions no one likes ! You can not escape that.They all talk in riddles and lies ,just in diffrent languages and accents.Will anything change,who knows !losing trident not good
Right now the three major parties in England are discussing and restructuring the Union. They’ve released press statements of whats on offer if Scotland says No. Only thing is, they where never mandated for such restructuring, never discussed it, offered it nor debated it. I.e they’ll do exactly as they like.
NI, Wales and England have not had a say in this “new Union” proposal.
“We’ll give you more power, if you agree to not have total power, because we love our Country”, thats what they’re saying Oh, and no one else will get a say in it. Just like you’ll get a say in nothing too!!
It was a question for the Scots alone. But it certainly has roused a lot of begging from the English party leaders.
addcoxy:
I believe every word ? Not biased much! But in this day and age we don’t need a deterrent do we
The nuclear deterrent supposedly being dependent on being based in Scotland is a red herring when it would probably be just as easy to base it elsewhere such as even in North America anyway.
But contrary to Salmond’s socialist ideas yes we do need it.If anything we need to massively upgrade it and the government is just looking for a convenient excuse to get out of paying for it.
Which then just leaves the question of the US seeming to be less committed to a defence policy based on mutually assured destruction than on the ridiculous idea of pushing conventional forces up to Russia’s border.Thereby making war with Russia more likely not less.
Having said that you can bet that the US would let us be wiped off the map without us being allowed to carry out any retaliation that would put the US at risk of a retaliatory strike anyway.It would be that issue which would be the only logical reason as to why it’s not worth bothering with an independent nuclear deterrent of our own.
Who Cares, once they have independence lets finish the job and rebuild the wall,hopefully it will stop clowns like Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling coming down and ruining peoples lives by thinking they can run the country a shambles we are still recovering from ,shame there is no CPC for politicians.
I’ll give my opinion though, after listening to a lot of the arguements from both sides I do actually believe that the Scottish people get a pretty good deal (financially) compared to England (I also think Wales don’t door too bad out of it).
I do however understand how infuriating it must be to not be in control of your own affairs, how you don’t get a say how your tax revenues are spent, how your governed by a government that you more than likely (as a nation) didn’t vote in.
So, in a nutshell. Do I think we’re better together?
For them Yes.
For us, No.
I don’t think Scotland will be as financially well off, as they are now there was talks on a debate the other day about Scotland having a FURTHER £6billion deficit, just to maintain current services in Scotland! The YES campaign is suggesting their going to improve things and didn’t disagree with these figure so £6 billion is the minimum added deficit.
If they get all the proposed new benefits in the event of a NO vote that is the worst case scenario as they can send Scotland bankrupt and the rest of the UK will be obliged to bail them out… Again.
addcoxy:
Unpicking nearly 300 years of Union is going to be a messy ! Very messy
Any one on here know the main reason for the act of union in the first place?
I don’t know where I heard it but basically Scotland was bankrupt.
Correct! Google Darian disaster, of course they try and lay the blame on the English for this just as Wee Eck will when he either loses or when things go ■■■■ up after a yes vote…Loose Loose situation for the rest of the UK, especially the English.
Mike-C:
Right now the three major parties in England are discussing and restructuring the Union. They’ve released press statements of whats on offer if Scotland says No. Only thing is, they where never mandated for such restructuring, never discussed it, offered it nor debated it. I.e they’ll do exactly as they like.
NI, Wales and England have not had a say in this “new Union” proposal.
“We’ll give you more power, if you agree to not have total power, because we love our Country”, thats what they’re saying Oh, and no one else will get a say in it. Just like you’ll get a say in nothing too!!
It was a question for the Scots alone. But it certainly has roused a lot of begging from the English party leaders.
Good post. I wish the Scots well and support a ‘yes’ vote but if the unionist parties think they’ve put this to bed with all the promises made to Scotland in the event of a ‘no’ vote they they can think again.
addcoxy:
Unpicking nearly 300 years of Union is going to be a messy ! Very messy
Why would that be when there seemed no problem in the case of vice versa in putting the union together twice.Albeit as usual in the case of the federalist unionist cause by use of force when the Scots rejected being absorbed into a federal UK.
Winseer:
Why does ‘getting rid of Trident’ magically pay for all these spending plans?
It would actually cost MORE money to get rid of nuclear weapons!
Not to mention losing all those jobs at Faslane. Also if they do get independence, no more Royal Navy ships built on the Clyde. Goodbye to those jobs too.
do they know something they did not want Scotland to know by any chance? Like the rest of the Union would be [zb] without them !!
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Oh, and no one else will get a say in it. Just like you’ll get a say in nothing too!! 
