If that is the case why are they (the shysters in London) so desperate now to keep Scotland in the Union if it’s been such a financial burden for the last 300 years ■■ 
do they know something they did not want Scotland to know by any chance? Like the rest of the Union would be ■■■■■■ without them !!
Don’t forget we only became a Union in the first place - because Our Liz went and chopped off their queenie’s head, and felt guilty enough about it after to hand her throne over to the orphaned son! 
If Cameron gets 305 seats out of 591 then he thinks that will win him the next election. That’s actually true on paper at least. 
306 out of 650 has him where he is right now - head of a weak coalition government, and that’s it.
The public will have none of it though I suspect. They’ll have his guts for garters at the ballot box if the “yes” vote wins, especially if it’s only by a small margin.
Milliband is the big loser, since he’d lose 41 seats at westminster to the Tory’s single loss.
Cameron thinks he’s written “kick me” on Milliband’s back - but this is surely going to come back and bite them both in the arse big time?!
With Cleggy so low in the polls already - It it remotely possible that UKIP might mop up in a smaller UK where you only need 296 seats in future to form either a majority government, or in a smaller-than-before coalition?
This is all getting rather interesting for British Politics on the whole… 
LeedsChris:
I echo Simon Heffers recent piece The Mail.Basically his final sentence was…Clear off, good riddance and tell us where to send the bill for the last 300 years of subsidy.
Haven’t read it but I’ll agree with his sentiments all the same , Quebec keep banging on about independence but being French they don’t have the balls to see it through , typically .
Winseer:
Don’t forget we only became a Union in the first place - because Our Liz went and chopped off their queenie’s head, and felt guilty enough about it after to hand her throne over to the orphaned son!
It all started a long time before that.While even the Bruce seems to have been part of the Norman/Plantagenet takeover which is what really destroyed the national identities of both England and Scotland.Which is the real conspiracy and seems to confirm the idea that the Bruce conspired in the ‘removal’ of Wallace from the scene which is where it all went wrong.Thereby stopping any chance which there might have been of getting rid of the invading Norman dynasty from both nations.
Put it this way, if I was Scotish, I’d be voting a massive YES.
Man up FFS. take PRIDE.
tango boy:
McWilliam:
Yes for me, get rid of Westminister & the bankers.Like the RBS bankers■■?
There can’t and wont be monetary union - because if there is, then Scotland will be dictated to by the Bank of England and London the same way Greece is dictated to by the ECB and Berlin.
If there isn’t any union, the new Scottish currency will be like the Drachma pretty much straight away - which is great for us sassenachs who fancy visiting Scotland as a tourist (as I do) but pretty scummy for the rank and file Scot who will suffer everything from higher taxes, mass council lay-offs, and administative nightmares - to lower benefits and greatly reduced public services from having no money unless North Sea Oil not only stays in place forever BUT also above a price that creates enough revenue for the well-meaning Scottish government plans.
It’s all about Oil. They’re never going to fund all their desires on Whisky exports!
mjallby:
‘…It’s a YES for me…’
TOP TIP:
This site is Trucknet UK - so whenya gonna poke-off tae form Trucknet S?
Winseer:
There can’t and wont be monetary union - because if there is, then Scotland will be dictated to by the Bank of England and London the same way Greece is dictated to by the ECB and Berlin.If there isn’t any union, the new Scottish currency will be like the Drachma pretty much straight away - which is great for us sassenachs who fancy visiting Scotland as a tourist (as I do) but pretty scummy for the rank and file Scot who will suffer everything from higher taxes, mass council lay-offs, and administative nightmares - to lower benefits and greatly reduced public services from having no money unless North Sea Oil not only stays in place forever BUT also above a price that creates enough revenue for the well-meaning Scottish government plans.
It’s all about Oil. They’re never going to fund all their desires on Whisky exports!
If Scotland can’t sort out its own economy to make a Scottish pound work then its nothing but a drain and liability to us anyway.Which then just makes the unionist agenda all about the English having to subsidise the Scottish economy.
The real question is why would anyone be ‘surprised’ at a yes vote when the SNP are the majority Party in Scotland.A no vote would be like us getting a UKIP majority government and then voting in a referendum to stay in the EU.That question obviously raising a question over any figures which would suggest a no majority in this case.
Jesus wept … just watched that idiot Cameroooooon on the news sprouting on about the great union THEY have built and the good THEY have accomplished and that he cares more for his country than his party etc etc. The speech of a desperate liar !!!
Quote … It’s all about Oil. They’re never going to fund all their desires on Whisky exports! … unquote
If the amount I seem to be knockin back lately is anything to go by they will … 
Winseer:
‘…It’s all about Oil…’
Above that I see it fundamentally being about the sensation felt by Scot’s of being disenfranchised by outsiders - which is little different from many British folk the UK over.
However, Scot’s have a target to aim at - and the bulls-eye is London
Meanwhile, the ‘rest of us’ flounder in the grey soup of being ignored by politicians who are more focussed on World issues whilst the whole UK has been disagregated and very, very poorly managed by EU-centric bell-ends.
So why should the Jocks prefer managing elsewhere than from Westminster (NB - it currently isn’t - consider the DCPC) when our pro-EU representatives in that place, many of whom are Jock remain content to acede to demands placed upon the whole of the UK from Brussels - which Salmond wishes to continue mimicking FFS 
Basically, England is seen by many Sweaties (especially since Maggie Thatch) as a horrible boil on their decent and proud ■■■ - when a well-managed Union opposed to European intrusion could re-assert and reconfirm this fine Kingdom as a proper force with common-language identity and shared decency 
Should the Yes vote win through…
- what currency will they use? It can’t be the pound, because London says so (rightly or wrongly). That means the Euro, which as most know is controlled by Berlin. So Scots will go from a situation of being (in their mind) controlled by Westminster, to being controlled by Berlin and Brussels. Salmond has reportedly said he won’t repay Scotland’s part of the UK national debt, which is a disaster for Scotland, and not a good start. Scotland will end up paying massively for borrowing.
telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ … -says.html
If Scotland goes, it will definitely be bad news for Milliband, who will have to wave goodbye to all those labour seats. For Cameron, if the UK population don’t punish him for losing the vote, he’s quids in.
Happy Keith:
Winseer:
‘…It’s all about Oil…’Above that I see it fundamentally being about the sensation felt by Scot’s of being disenfranchised by outsiders - which is little different from many British folk the UK over.
However, Scot’s have a target to aim at - and the bulls-eye is London
Meanwhile, the ‘rest of us’ flounder in the grey soup of being ignored by politicians who are more focussed on World issues whilst the whole UK has been disagregated and very, very poorly managed by EU-centric bell-ends.
So why should the Jocks prefer managing elsewhere than from Westminster (NB - it currently isn’t - consider the DCPC) when our pro-EU representatives in that place, many of whom are Jock remain content to acede to demands placed upon the whole of the UK from Brussels - which Salmond wishes to continue mimicking FFS
Basically, England is seen by many Sweaties (especially since Maggie Thatch) as a horrible boil on their decent and proud ■■■ - when a well-managed Union opposed to European intrusion could re-assert and reconfirm this fine Kingdom as a proper force with common-language identity and shared decency
The idea of being anti federalist in the case of the EU but not when it suits you in the case of the UK is as bad as Salmond being anti federalist in the case of the UK but not when it suits him in the case of the EU.The fact is federalism is bad at whatever level in whatever case.Which for us means the best idea is an England run by the English for the English and no one else.It’s then up to the rest to run their places as they want.The idea of any ‘union’/federation is an undemocratic sham at best wether it be the EU or the UK.
Carryfast:
‘…The idea of being anti federalist in the case of the EU but not when it suits you in the case of the UK is as bad as Salmond being anti federalist in the case of the UK but not when it suits him in the case of the EU.The fact is federalism is bad at whatever level in whatever case.Which for us means the best idea is an England run by the English for the English and no one else.It’s then up to the rest to run their places as they want.The idea of any ‘union’/federation is an undemocratic sham at best wether it be the EU or the UK…’
So there’s no need for ‘national identity’ (Scotland) when the whole (ie, the EU) is what’s aspired to - even if that reality and its expensive ugliness is brushed aside (ie by Salmond) ?
Which way are you advocating?
I’m wanting ‘out’ from an undemoctaic Euro-Federation in waiting since it’s too distant - but a common language island does not seem unreasonable to cohesively and better re-unite
Why are not more people ■■■■■■ off over that The Scots get asked if they want in or out - but the UK does NOT get asked “do we want in or out of Europe”.
That referendum is still long odds against happening alas, unless UKIP can profit from the derision heaped upon the main parties in the same way the YES campaign is profiting right now…
Boo9729:
Just been watching the latest news on this and polls are apparently now in favour of the Yes vote.Just wondered what impact, if anything, you think an Independent Scotland would have on the haulage industry??
Just ordered me a New Passport as i often jump at Carlisle to next Campsite.
Often,Ha. didn’t for 2 Year now
Happy Keith:
Carryfast:
‘…The idea of being anti federalist in the case of the EU but not when it suits you in the case of the UK is as bad as Salmond being anti federalist in the case of the UK but not when it suits him in the case of the EU.The fact is federalism is bad at whatever level in whatever case.Which for us means the best idea is an England run by the English for the English and no one else.It’s then up to the rest to run their places as they want.The idea of any ‘union’/federation is an undemocratic sham at best wether it be the EU or the UK…’So there’s no need for ‘national identity’ (Scotland) when the whole (ie, the EU) is what’s aspired to - even if that reality and its expensive ugliness is brushed aside (ie by Salmond) ?
Which way are you advocating?
I’m wanting ‘out’ from an undemoctaic Euro-Federation in waiting since it’s too distant - but a common language island does not seem unreasonable to cohesively and better re-unite
In terms of democracy the idea of English policy being decided by the Scottish electorate and vice versa is as bad as it being decided by majority federal EU vote.As for national identity I’d guess that even with EU membership Ireland now has more in that regard than it did as part of the ‘UK’ which is probably what Salmond is thinking.
As I’ve said my view ideally would be for us to dissolve ‘the union’ and leave the EU.Then re instate the seperate English identity and government along local democracy lines.In which the English national government is answerable to the regional governments based on the historic Anglo Saxon boundaries that in turn are answerable to the established Counties that make up the regions.As for what the rest of ( the ex union ) decide that is their choice and no longer any concern of ours.
Winseer:
Why are not more people ■■■■■■ off over that The Scots get asked if they want in or out - but the UK does NOT get asked “do we want in or out of Europe”.That referendum is still long odds against happening alas, unless UKIP can profit from the derision
Basically the idea of federalism is the same wether it be the EU or the UK.It’s time to tell all of our ruling classes that we’ve had enough of their idea of federal democracy and now it’s time for the real thing.That obviously includes the contradiction in UKIP’s idea of federalism when it suits it in the case of the UK and not when it doesn’t in the case of the EU.
All of the English people I have spoken to about this vote are hoping for a yes vote, you might find Cameron becomes very popular should it go that way, it’s not as if they’ve done much to keep the jocks happy. He’s well unpopular north of the border so it’s a master stroke to go up and get among them, if that doesn’t get a few more votes for the yes camp I don’t know what will.
Hi Immigrant.
Cancel the parachute new poll just on the news Yes 47% No 53%. Eddie.