Scottish Independence ....Your Thoughts

“Am I the only person who doesn’t even bother reading Carryfast’s ramblings.Is this page 12 yet? :laughing:

Lifes too short to read all that drivel.

GOG47:
Am I the only person who doesn’t even bother reading Carryfast’s ramblings.Is this page 12 yet? :laughing:

I read them if they’re short and concise, i speed read ahead and if i see historical things i give it a miss. They usually are meticulously planned out though, they start off with hand picked facts and statements (as probably we’re all guilty of),then he leads to a conclusion…"which is obviously the case that…blah, lah , blah, "…Then his conclusion question…"which only leaves the fact that…blah, blah, blah " … :laughing: :laughing:

I dinny read them you just need to look at the space the man takes up wie each post. Eddie.

Snarley:
Bye

Hang on a min, I want to come with you :slight_smile: but one last word… For our resident expert C/F, if Scotland is such a drain on english resources why the hell the panic in holding on to it ■■ (Ok 23 words more)

Ed Milliband thinks he will lose many Labour MP’s with a Yes.

David Cameron thinks he will lose his job.

Too close to call I reckon.

Someone else mentioned blindly voting for the same party for years.

Why do people do this? I live in a blind Labour area, the same fools voting for them again and again without even knowing what they now stand for.

I vote for those whose policies at the time I agree with :wink:

raymundo:
For our resident expert C/F, if Scotland is such a drain on english resources why the hell the panic in holding on to it ■■ (Ok 23 words more)

I actually said ‘either’ the English ‘or’ the Scottish are being ripped off by one subsidising the other.

As for the question.Federalism.IE what did Ireland have that made it worth going to war to keep hold of the place.

i blame the scots for the increase in transvestism, blokes wearing skirts is jut not normal is it ?

sorry gentlemen i digress

the vote is reported to be just 2% either way, so the yes vote is just 52% or the no vote could win with 52%

would all sides be happy with a result like this ? i mean you only need 51% to win but that leaves a lot of people who will feel cheated whatever the outcome

so what will happen when the result is in and one side or the other finds out they lost but by the smallest of margins ?

Carryfast:
As for the question.Federalism.IE what did Ireland have that made it worth going to war to keep hold of the place.

Err, maybe the overwhelming will of the majority of the population?

the maoster:

Carryfast:
As for the question.Federalism.IE what did Ireland have that made it worth going to war to keep hold of the place.

Err, maybe the overwhelming will of the majority of the population?

I was referring to the ‘British’ side in that war. :confused: :unamused:

If a yes, would the radio 2 traffic cease to cover Scotland? It surely would, doesnt cover France, Belgium, Holland, Ireland, who are our other near country neighbours after all.

iguana:
If a yes, would the radio 2 traffic cease to cover Scotland? It surely would, doesnt cover France, Belgium, Holland, Ireland, who are our other near country neighbours after all.

At last after eleven pages we have got to the crux of the subject, for all the pages written very little has been said about how it will affect those of us who run through Scotland on a regular basis. Tbh if it is a yes then Alex salmond will not have long to turn Scotland into the utopia he has promised according to his party the day after independence poverty and hunger will cease and everyone will agree to pay more tax I fear the reality may be some different. As the liberals have found out it is hard to keep your pre election promises when the reality of power kicks in

mazzer:

iguana:
If a yes, would the radio 2 traffic cease to cover Scotland? It surely would, doesnt cover France, Belgium, Holland, Ireland, who are our other near country neighbours after all.

At last after eleven pages we have got to the crux of the subject, for all the pages written very little has been said about how it will affect those of us who run through Scotland on a regular basis. Tbh if it is a yes then Alex salmond will not have long to turn Scotland into the utopia he has promised according to his party the day after independence poverty and hunger will cease and everyone will agree to pay more tax I fear the reality may be some different. As the liberals have found out it is hard to keep your pre election promises when the reality of power kicks in

Firstly there’s no reason why Radio 2 can’t be broadcast anywhere that it’s broadcast now other than yet more sour grapes bs in shutting it down by the federalists assuming that Scotland has the sense to vote yes.

As for keeping the Union alive that will obviously result in the federalist utopia of a LabLibdemCon,Miliband and Brown/Clegg/Cameron led alliance,that ties us all into an ever closer EU dictatorship with Brown taxing the English,especially the South East,as required to keep his unionist/federalist Scottish supporters onside,out of whatever money we’ve got left after the EU has taken its cut.

All of which shows the stupidity of Farage’s support for that agenda. :unamused:

What about cabotage for Scot or Eng based hauliers, that could be a headache.

Carryfast:
Firstly there’s no reason why Radio 2 can’t be broadcast anywhere that it’s broadcast now other than yet more sour grapes bs in shutting it down by the federalists assuming that Scotland has the sense to vote

I think he means will they stop broadcasting traffic reports from Scotland, not stop broadcasting bbc2 altogether.

BillyHunt:

Carryfast:
Firstly there’s no reason why Radio 2 can’t be broadcast anywhere that it’s broadcast now other than yet more sour grapes bs in shutting it down by the federalists assuming that Scotland has the sense to vote

I think he means will they stop broadcasting traffic reports from Scotland, not stop broadcasting bbc2 altogether.

Indeed exactly what I meant, only a jokey post really but with an element of, well it could happen.

If it’s a no vote then Westminster will be falling over backwards to appease the people of Scotland and will give in to any demands. I personally hope it is a yes vote, either way England, N Ireland and Wales are in a no win situation regardless of the outcome.

McWilliam:
If it’s a no vote then Westminster will be falling over backwards to appease the people of Scotland and will give in to any demands. I personally hope it is a yes vote, either way England, N Ireland and Wales are in a no win situation regardless of the outcome.

The only way that anyone would view a yes vote as a lose situation here is if they are blinkered by the federalist mindset of which there are obviously many.The most serious damage being that of a no vote to the anti EU UKIP cause by the resulting strengthening of the LabLibdemCon pro UK and EU federalist alliance.When it’s obvious that Farage needed to distance the Party from the Unionist cause.The no win situation in this case being the Unionist position of the anti EU UKIP v the pro EU position of the SNP.When it’s obvious that what’s needed is an anti EU English and Scottish nationalist alliance to stand against Cameron and his pro EU and pro UK alliance.IE the anti federalist cause has been doomed by a so called nationalist,but in reality socialist/ federalist,SNP and a so called anti fedralist,but in reality federalist/unionist,UKIP.Which all might have turned out differently if UKIP was actually the English Independence Party together with a real Scottish SNP north of the border. :unamused: :frowning:

well it’s simple, if the scots vote yes. wee have a referendum next year to join Scotland. :smiley:

browncow2:
well it’s simple, if the scots vote yes. wee have a referendum next year to join Scotland. :smiley:

NO YOU BLOODY WELL CANT!! Whatever next, england will be wantin to join next :frowning:

Thinking about it though, might not be a bad idea!! Then the Scots can treat them that live down in the swamps the same as they did to those ‘that live up there in the hills’ …

Interest rates are likely to rise sharply both sides of the border if Sterling shows enough weakness…

Cameron could save any drops in the market by calling a snap general election, but he’ll probably think ‘falling on his own sword’ would be enough.

I’d say he’s finished, even if the vote goes 52% “no” as expected. :bulb: