cav551:
As has been pointed out on the previous thread, a fitter does need to use a tacho if taking an HGV for MOT.
Surely not if the vehicle is one:-
“which is carrying material or equipment to be used by that person in the course of his work, provided that driving that vehicle is not his principal activity”,
i.e. that “material” might be work clothes/tools?
ROG:
jimboy124:
ROG:
jimboy124:
To the OP don’t ask ROG for any advice … Use Wikipedia … It is much more useful than ROG …Perhaps you would care to quote some wrong advice I have given in say the past 2 years to back up your statement …
No not really … your last quote you probably cut and pasted it from somebody else anyway …
In other words you have stated something that is not correct, as you cannot back it up, about me on a personal level - is that not against site rules ?
How about this ROG ■■?
jimboy124:
ROG:
jimboy124:
ROG:
jimboy124:
To the OP don’t ask ROG for any advice … Use Wikipedia … It is much more useful than ROG …Perhaps you would care to quote some wrong advice I have given in say the past 2 years to back up your statement …
No not really … your last quote you probably cut and pasted it from somebody else anyway …
In other words you have stated something that is not correct, as you cannot back it up, about me on a personal level - is that not against site rules ?
How about this ROG ■■?
Is that the best you can do !!
A quote from 5.5 years ago which was info obtained from an ex-police traffic officer which, by the way, was correct for when he dealt with the old HGV classes
How about something more up to date that would really have a negative effect on the person asking a question
Snudger:
cav551:
As has been pointed out on the previous thread, a fitter does need to use a tacho if taking an HGV for MOT.Surely not if the vehicle is one:-
“which is carrying material or equipment to be used by that person in the course of his work, provided that driving that vehicle is not his principal activity”,
i.e. that “material” might be work clothes/tools?
or a gantry
ROG:
jimboy124:
ROG:
jimboy124:
ROG:
jimboy124:
To the OP don’t ask ROG for any advice … Use Wikipedia … It is much more useful than ROG …Perhaps you would care to quote some wrong advice I have given in say the past 2 years to back up your statement …
No not really … your last quote you probably cut and pasted it from somebody else anyway …
In other words you have stated something that is not correct, as you cannot back it up, about me on a personal level - is that not against site rules ?
How about this ROG ■■?
Is that the best you can do !!
A quote from 5.5 years ago which was info obtained from an ex-police traffic officer which, by the way, was correct for when he dealt with the old HGV classesHow about something more up to date that would really have a negative effect on the person asking a question
There are bound to be more … but i have to descale a kettle and really cannot be arsed.
Face it ROG … your post about fireworks keeping you awake is pure ■■■■■■
As Brucey may say " KEEP POSTING " or is it dancing ?
Oh were you not on PREMOD for breaking some rule or other? care to share that one ?>
I remember this exact question coming up at Truckfest Peterborough at the DSA stand in 2008 I think the year was
At that time the DSA would not commit themselves but THOUGHT it reasonable that mechanics doing just road tests and to/from MOTs should be exempt
jimboy124:
Oh were you not on PREMOD for breaking some rule or other? care to share that one ?>
That was generally for going ‘off track’ when it would have been more prudent to start a seperate thread so therefore made work for the mods
You know about going off track because its what you are doing in this thread
For any opinion more than that then perhaps you could ask your workmate who is a mod on here 
ROG:
jimboy124:
Oh were you not on PREMOD for breaking some rule or other? care to share that one ?>That was generally for going ‘off track’ when it would have been more prudent to start a seperate thread so therefore made work for the mods
You know about going off track because its what you are doing in this thread
For any opinion more than that then perhaps you could ask your workmate who is a mod on here
Do keep up Rog. Jim is at TNT
Wheel Nut:
ROG:
jimboy124:
Oh were you not on PREMOD for breaking some rule or other? care to share that one ?>That was generally for going ‘off track’ when it would have been more prudent to start a seperate thread so therefore made work for the mods
You know about going off track because its what you are doing in this thread
For any opinion more than that then perhaps you could ask your workmate who is a mod on here
Do keep up Rog. Jim is at TNT
See what i mean ■■ FACTS ROG,FACTS !!
jimboy124:
Wheel Nut:
ROG:
jimboy124:
Oh were you not on PREMOD for breaking some rule or other? care to share that one ?>That was generally for going ‘off track’ when it would have been more prudent to start a seperate thread so therefore made work for the mods
You know about going off track because its what you are doing in this thread
For any opinion more than that then perhaps you could ask your workmate who is a mod on here
Do keep up Rog. Jim is at TNT
See what i mean ■■ FACTS ROG,FACTS !!
As new info has come to light then - your ex workmate
ROG:
jimboy124:
ROG:
jimboy124:
ROG:
jimboy124:
To the OP don’t ask ROG for any advice … Use Wikipedia … It is much more useful than ROG …Perhaps you would care to quote some wrong advice I have given in say the past 2 years to back up your statement …
No not really … your last quote you probably cut and pasted it from somebody else anyway …
In other words you have stated something that is not correct, as you cannot back it up, about me on a personal level - is that not against site rules ?
How about this ROG ■■?
Is that the best you can do !!
A quote from 5.5 years ago which was info obtained from an ex-police traffic officer which, by the way, was correct for when he dealt with the old HGV classesHow about something more up to date that would really have a negative effect on the person asking a question
OK OK OK , what about this then ■■?
Oh great LGV trainer …■■?
Is this sort of thing called ‘trolling’ ? = where one member stalks another trying to make an non existant point !!
for ■■■■■ sake girls calm down. So if a fitter is sent out on a rescue and brings the lorry back with goods on it, then he must have the ticket?
ROG:
Is this sort of thing called ‘trolling’ ? = where one member stalks another trying to make an non existant point !!
You asked me a few posts ago to prove to you where you have given bad advice … and i just did !
How is that trolling ?
Why cant you answer to the post … that you got wrong … again
And leave the tough questions to the people that actually know the answer !
When you get the correct answer and copy and paste it in don’t make out it was you that knew all along!
DADDY LONGLEGS:
for [zb] sake girls calm down. So if a fitter is sent out on a rescue and brings the lorry back with goods on it, then he must have the ticket?
I would guess nope he doesn’t need the ticket. I’d say the purpose of his journey was recovery not the movement of goods for hire and reward.
If he decided to tip the load on the way back to the garage however…
Wow what a thread.
OK - I asked the DSA sometime back in 2010. I was told that for the purpose of road test or repair - no DCPC. For going to MOT - DCPC required. The explanation at the time was that when going to MOT the vehicle should be fully roadworthy and therefore not being maintained or road tested. This kind of made sense.
The other exemption that might count is the “carrying items to be used in their main employment” or whatever it said. I don’t think this fits either.
I would therefore advise any mechanics to get their DCPC as they may well move in and out of scope of the DCPC throughout a working week and it’d be handy not to get caught without it if needed.
I believe that if stopped without the DQC it is up to the driver to demonstrate why it is not needed.
Also - some of the previous posts before the fighting started seemed to by tying DCPC to whether a tacho was used or not. the two aren’t related. plenty of driver/vehicle combinations are exempt tacho but do need DCPC.
The latest post about recovery - in my opinion the recovery guy needs the DCPC. it is not about whether carrying goods - it is about whether driving commercially/for pay/professionally. In my mind the recovery guy is more a driver than anything else. A bin man doesn’t carry any goods but still needs DCPC - but exempt tacho. There are some weird combinations of jobs/vehicles and only going to court will decide in the end.
Surely - if someone has a cat C licence isn’t it worth having the DCPC so there are no restrictions to using that licence? A recovery mechanic today could be driving for an agency tomorrow if he was desperatly in need of work. I no longer drive but do have my DQC as a just in case I need it measure.
volvobloke:
muckles:
Looking at the exemptions as long as they are only road testing the vehicles or taking them for test then they would be exempt. Once the vehicle is being used for commercial use then the driver will need a DCPC.I think they’ll be a few court cases when this comes in to clarify the situation.
fitters dont use tachos either
They use a workshop digicard.
what happens if a fitter is too tired to drive because of the fireworks from the night before keeping them awake all night?
are they allowed to be let loose in the workshop at all when tired?..
Conor:
volvobloke:
muckles:
Looking at the exemptions as long as they are only road testing the vehicles or taking them for test then they would be exempt. Once the vehicle is being used for commercial use then the driver will need a DCPC.I think they’ll be a few court cases when this comes in to clarify the situation.
fitters dont use tachos either
They use a workshop digicard.
A workshop card is only issued to a tacho calibration centre - not a workshop as in vehicle servicing workshop. A workshop card is only valid for 12 months and requires a pin number to use it - certainly not for general issue
Conor:
volvobloke:
muckles:
Looking at the exemptions as long as they are only road testing the vehicles or taking them for test then they would be exempt. Once the vehicle is being used for commercial use then the driver will need a DCPC.I think they’ll be a few court cases when this comes in to clarify the situation.
fitters dont use tachos either
They use a workshop digicard.
Conor. Tell me what a workshop card is.
Hang on, you think the mechanic needs one for a road test don’t you?
