volvobloke:
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?
Don’t really get the bit about anya and why he’s picking up gantrys? but if he’s doing a driving job to pick up a load then he’ll need a DCPC,
volvobloke:
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigids
But they are being tested, not on a transportation job.
picks up a gantry for another depot, one depot doesnt need it so they send it to another depot, are you thick? stobart driver obviously. you are the reason trucking has become so un friendly
I’ve sat here and tried to help, at no time was I abusive to you for not understanding the regs. we all trying to get our heads round it. I didn’t get exactly what you were saying about the gantry or anya, (still don’t) I don’t drive for Stobarts, not that it’s a problem if I did.
Due to the nature of my job I’ve had to look into the exemptions in a bit of detail, to work out if I or any of the other people at my place are exempt.
Now you’ve explained yourself, I think the fitter would need a DCPC to transport a gantry from one depot to another, as it’s a transportation of goods, even it’s though it’s internal work within the company, the same as those working for own account operations needing DCPC .
From what I’ve read so far the requirement of the DCPC is to do with what sort of the work the driver is doing at that time, not what they are employed to do. This is very much linked to the area of exemption I’m looking at, as sometimes the drivers could be exempt as they are transporting goods and material in connection with their work and other times they are transporting goods.
But as I said before some of this will end up in court cases to clarify the law.
volvobloke:
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?
Don’t really get the bit about anya and why he’s picking up gantrys? but if he’s doing a driving job to pick up a load then he’ll need a DCPC,
volvobloke:
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigids
But they are being tested, not on a transportation job.
picks up a gantry for another depot, one depot doesnt need it so they send it to another depot, are you thick? stobart driver obviously. you are the reason trucking has become so un friendly
I’ve sat here and tried to help, at no time was I abusive to you for not understanding the regs. we all trying to get our heads round it. I didn’t get exactly what you were saying about the gantry or anya, (still don’t) I don’t drive for Stobarts, not that it’s a problem if I did.
Due to the nature of my job I’ve had to look into the exemptions in a bit of detail, to work out if I or any of the other people at my place are exempt.
Now you’ve explained yourself, I think the fitter would need a DCPC to transport a gantry from one depot to another, as it’s a transportation of goods, even it’s though it’s internal work within the company, the same as those working for own account operations needing DCPC .
From what I’ve read so far the requirement of the DCPC is to do with what sort of the work the driver is doing at that time, not what they are employed to do. This is very much linked to the area of exemption I’m looking at, as sometimes the drivers could be exempt as they are transporting goods and material in connection with their work and other times they are transporting goods.
But as I said before some of this will end up in court cases to clarify the law.
I’ll except your apology in advance.
no muckles, it wasnt you, im sorry mate, i hit the wrong quote button, i started this thread as a gen question because cpc providers ive asked say its a grey area, ive even asked the test manager at bicester he isnt sure and he knows his stuff, then some potato head gives me grief,
when you get pulled over for not havin DCPC it would be nice to know what to say to the womble
volvobloke:
no muckles, it wasnt you, im sorry mate, i hit the wrong quote button, i started this thread as a gen question because cpc providers ive asked say its a grey area, ive even asked the test manager at bicester he isnt sure and he knows his stuff, then some potato head gives me grief,
when you get pulled over for not havin DCPC it would be nice to know what to say to the womble
volvobloke:
no muckles, it wasnt you, im sorry mate, i hit the wrong quote button, i started this thread as a gen question because cpc providers ive asked say its a grey area, ive even asked the test manager at bicester he isnt sure and he knows his stuff, then some potato head gives me grief,
when you get pulled over for not havin DCPC it would be nice to know what to say to the womble
so, who was your tirade of abuse aimed at then?
and who is the ‘potato head’ that gave you grief?
just curious
scanny fanny i think, maybe he came across wrong, never mind, the thread was directed at rog, i will charge you peddle jumpers rent soon
volvobloke:
no muckles, it wasnt you, im sorry mate, i hit the wrong quote button, i started this thread as a gen question because cpc providers ive asked say its a grey area, ive even asked the test manager at bicester he isnt sure and he knows his stuff, then some potato head gives me grief,
when you get pulled over for not havin DCPC it would be nice to know what to say to the womble
so, who was your tirade of abuse aimed at then?
and who is the ‘potato head’ that gave you grief?
just curious
scanny fanny i think, maybe he came across wrong, never mind, the thread was directed at rog, i will charge you peddle jumpers rent soon
so, from that post, and the fact that you referred to myself by that name, i deduce that you are saying that it was me that upset you soooooooo much for you to mis-quote Muckles when in fact, you should have quoted me?
volvobloke:
buggered if i know who is who now, its my fault, sorry to bother you all, i do hope you are enjoying your sunday dinner of ham egg and roast potatoes.
multi Ids on here?
not me fella
you can ask any of the mods or forum admin to confirm this, i give my permission for them to confirm how many usernames i have on here
you started the abuse on here, then when you were put in your place, you got even more abusive
and people should help you, why?
not having a go at all, but, just trying to work out what caused the abuse towards Muckles (or whoever it should have been aimed at), afterall, all we tried to do was help you understand the question you asked in your OP
so, to summarise, if you are taking a truck or trailer for MoT or road test, that you do not need the DCPC, but, if you pick up the gantry from one depot and move it to another, then you do need it
hope this helps
oh, and do yourself a big favour, and change the attitude, you will find that you will get a lot more help if you are polite about it
Exemption vii
“Carrying material or equipment to be used by that person in the course of his or her work, provided that driving that vehicle does not constitute the drivers principal activity.”
Example
“An example of a driver under exemption vii (also known as “incidental driver”) would be a brick layer who drives a load of bricks from the builder’s yard to the building site and then spends their working day laying bricks. In this case, driving a lorry is incidental to their main occupation.”
It is also stated that a driver can move in and out of exemption depending on “the circumstances in which they are driving”.
After reviewing the exemptions and examples given, it is OLMC’s view that the Driver CPC exemption status of a driver is dependant entirely of the purpose of the journey at hand and the exempt status of the driver can change on a journey to journey basis.
The need for a Driver CPC qualification should be considered before every journey is made. If Driver CPC is needed, then only a driver with the qualification should be driving the vehicle. Exemption on a separate journey does not mean you are exempt at all times.
jimboy124:
To the OP don’t ask ROG for any advice … Use Wikipedia … It is much more useful than ROG …
Perhaps you would care to quote some wrong advice I have given in say the past 2 years to back up your statement …
No not really … your last quote you probably cut and pasted it from somebody else anyway …
In other words you have stated something that is not correct, as you cannot back it up, about me on a personal level - is that not against site rules ?
stop trolling him you guys, ROG puts useful info into this site, unlike the ones who drone on about kinked suzies and bald tyres all day long, no wonder our industry is crap now, everyone abuses eachother and slags eachother off.
As has been pointed out on the previous thread, a fitter does need to use a tacho if taking an HGV for MOT. So, since the majority of vehicles now require a digicard, is this going to cause a problem either to apply for one, or to renew it if the fitter does not have a dcpc?
Fortunately all the HGV I maintain presently are analogue and I do have a digi anyway. For the benefit of the operator, I usually put a chart in and write road test on it, returning it to him after 28 days. However this seems to be one of those areas where one gets different interpretations. Is a fitter’s road test under domestic regs so no tacho, exempt from eu so no tacho, or under eu so tacho required?
volvobloke:
stop trolling him you guys, ROG puts useful info into this site, unlike the ones who drone on about kinked suzies and bald tyres all day long, no wonder our industry is crap now, everyone abuses eachother and slags eachother off.
Cheers ROG
So who is trolling who here?
volvobloke is using another id and trolling every post with crap
