no driver cpc company has been able to give me an answer, my mate is a fitter at a company that rhymes with anya and he was told by his manager they wont be paying for DCPC as they dont need it for collection delivery or attending MOT.
ROG is supposed to be the don for this round here 
Persons to whom these Regulations apply
This section has no associated Explanatory Memorandum
3.–(1) These Regulations apply to any person who drives a relevant vehicle, other than a vehicle to which paragraph (2) applies, on a road and is –(a)a national of a member State; or
(b)a national of a third country employed or used by an undertaking established in a member State.
(2) This paragraph applies to a vehicle–(a)which it is an offence for that person to drive on any road at a speed greater than 45 kilometres per hour in Great Britain under section 89 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984(1) or in Northern Ireland under the Motor Vehicles (Speed Limits) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1989(2);
(b)which is being used by, or is under the control of any of the following –
(i)the armed forces;
(ii)a police force;
(iii)a local authority in the discharge of any function conferred on or exercisable by that authority under an order made under section 5 of the Civil Contingencies Act 2004(3) or regulations made under section 20 of that Act, or
(iv)a fire and rescue authority;
(c)which is undergoing road tests for technical development, repair or maintenance purposes, or that is a new or rebuilt vehicle which has not yet been put into service;
(d)which is being used in a state of emergency or is assigned to a rescue mission;
(e)which is being used in the course of a driving lesson or driving test for the purpose of enabling that person to obtain a driving licence or a CPC;
(f)which is being used for the non-commercial carriage of passengers or goods for personal use;
(g)which is carrying material or equipment to be used by that person in the course of his work, provided that driving that vehicle is not his principal activity.
delboytwo:
Persons to whom these Regulations apply
This section has no associated Explanatory Memorandum
3.–(1) These Regulations apply to any person who drives a relevant vehicle, other than a vehicle to which paragraph (2) applies, on a road and is –(a)a national of a member State; or
(b)a national of a third country employed or used by an undertaking established in a member State.
(2) This paragraph applies to a vehicle–(a)which it is an offence for that person to drive on any road at a speed greater than 45 kilometres per hour in Great Britain under section 89 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984(1) or in Northern Ireland under the Motor Vehicles (Speed Limits) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1989(2);
(b)which is being used by, or is under the control of any of the following –
(i)the armed forces;
(ii)a police force;
(iii)a local authority in the discharge of any function conferred on or exercisable by that authority under an order made under section 5 of the Civil Contingencies Act 2004(3) or regulations made under section 20 of that Act, or
(iv)a fire and rescue authority;(c)which is undergoing road tests for technical development, repair or maintenance purposes, or that is a new or rebuilt vehicle which has not yet been put into service;
(d)which is being used in a state of emergency or is assigned to a rescue mission;
(e)which is being used in the course of a driving lesson or driving test for the purpose of enabling that person to obtain a driving licence or a CPC;
(f)which is being used for the non-commercial carriage of passengers or goods for personal use;
(g)which is carrying material or equipment to be used by that person in the course of his work, provided that driving that vehicle is not his principal activity.
Looking at the exemptions as long as they are only road testing the vehicles or taking them for test then they would be exempt. Once the vehicle is being used for commercial use then the driver will need a DCPC.
I think they’ll be a few court cases when this comes in to clarify the situation.
so “F” excludes them? does F exclude empty running ?
muckles:
Looking at the exemptions as long as they are only road testing the vehicles or taking them for test then they would be exempt. Once the vehicle is being used for commercial use then the driver will need a DCPC.I think they’ll be a few court cases when this comes in to clarify the situation.
fitters dont use tachos either
volvobloke:
so “F” excludes them? does F exclude empty running ?
I think C excludes them but I’m sure if you want to run empty all the time, then you’ll not need a DCPC. 
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?
muckles:
volvobloke:
so “F” excludes them? does F exclude empty running ?I think C excludes them but I’m sure if you want to run empty all the time, then you’ll not need a DCPC.
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigids
volvobloke:
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?
Don’t really get the bit about anya and why he’s picking up gantrys? but if he’s doing a driving job to pick up a load then he’ll need a DCPC,
volvobloke:
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigids
But they are being tested, not on a transportation job.
volvobloke:
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?
I think “G”, would cover a fitter for that, it isn’t hire or reward, it is a piece of equipment to do his job with, and driving is not his main job.
However I think if the fitter was caught with 18 pallets of Pringles and a Black and Decker workmate, Mr VOSA may have reason to be suspicious 
muckles:
volvobloke:
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?Don’t really get the bit about anya and why he’s picking up gantrys? but if he’s doing a driving job to pick up a load then he’ll need a DCPC,
volvobloke:
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigidsBut they are being tested, not on a transportation job.
picks up a gantry for another depot, one depot doesnt need it so they send it to another depot, are you thick? stobart driver obviously. you are the reason trucking has become so un friendly
volvobloke:
muckles:
volvobloke:
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?Don’t really get the bit about anya and why he’s picking up gantrys? but if he’s doing a driving job to pick up a load then he’ll need a DCPC,
volvobloke:
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigidsBut they are being tested, not on a transportation job.
picks up a gantry for another depot, one depot doesnt need it so they send it to another depot, are you thick? stobart driver obviously. you are the reason trucking has become so un friendly
people on here are trying to help you, and you are getting abusive 
you, yes, YOU, did not explain yourself fully regarding the gantry, so, if anyone is the thick idiot, then that would again be YOU and YOU alone
oh dear fanny scanny, you arnt really up to this, it is an adult convo, driver cpc isnt the same as management, you are a thick driver, carry on with the ham egg and chips you
volvobloke:
muckles:
volvobloke:
so “F” excludes them? does F exclude empty running ?I think C excludes them but I’m sure if you want to run empty all the time, then you’ll not need a DCPC.
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigids
If someone asked me to go pick up a Test Trailer. I would expect it to be loaded with concrete blocks or sandbags. If they asked me to pick up a trailer for test I would imagine it needed some work doing on it.
It can’t be an adult conversation - especially if you’re involved!
Go away, Troll. You’re just being a pest
Wheel Nut:
volvobloke:
muckles:
volvobloke:
so “F” excludes them? does F exclude empty running ?I think C excludes them but I’m sure if you want to run empty all the time, then you’ll not need a DCPC.
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigids
If someone asked me to go pick up a Test Trailer. I would expect it to be loaded with concrete blocks or sandbags. If they asked me to pick up a trailer for test I would imagine it needed some work doing on it.
i agree, but a lot of cpc teachers say its a grey area when it comes to fitting, ignore ham egg and chips boy this was a serious thread
now then, can you please enlighten the rest of us mere mortals who are not psychic, where in the following quote it says that you are moving the gantry to another depot that is not your regular pit of pestilence?
volvobloke:
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?
volvobloke:
oh dear fanny scanny, you arnt really up to this, it is an adult convo, driver cpc isnt the same as management, you are a thick driver, carry on with the ham egg and chips you
and you obviously know me better than i know myself, as you seem to think i am just ‘a thick driver’
why don’t you crawl back under the rock that you escaped from and stay there until you learn a few manners
volvobloke:
Wheel Nut:
volvobloke:
muckles:
volvobloke:
so “F” excludes them? does F exclude empty running ?I think C excludes them but I’m sure if you want to run empty all the time, then you’ll not need a DCPC.
test trailer is fully loaded, so are rigids
If someone asked me to go pick up a Test Trailer. I would expect it to be loaded with concrete blocks or sandbags. If they asked me to pick up a trailer for test I would imagine it needed some work doing on it.
i agree, but a lot of cpc teachers say its a grey area when it comes to fitting, ignore ham egg and chips boy this was a serious thread
do you do stand up at weekends?
if not, you should seriously consider it, coming out with crackers like that one
shuttlespanker:
now then you, can you please enlighten the rest of us mere mortals who are not psychic, where in the following quote it says that you are moving the gantry to another depot that is not your regular pit of pestilence?volvobloke:
so if an anya fitter was to go to another branch to pick up a gantry in a anya vehicle he would need driver cpc coz hes a fitter?volvobloke:
oh dear fanny scanny, you arnt really up to this, it is an adult convo, driver cpc isnt the same as management, you are a thick driver, carry on with the ham egg and chips youand you obviously know me better than i know myself, as you seem to think i am just ‘a thick driver’
why don’t you crawl back under the rock that you escaped from and stay there until you learn a few manners
you started it, i was asking a genuine question, now, are you going to debate or be a ■■■■?