cracker-bar:
I have a tv licence, but I don’t consider that I am better at watching telly than someone who hasn’t bothered to get one!
Terrible analogy.
You don’t have to pass a test to get a TV licence.
cracker-bar:
I have a tv licence, but I don’t consider that I am better at watching telly than someone who hasn’t bothered to get one!
Terrible analogy.
You don’t have to pass a test to get a TV licence.
Contraflow:
cracker-bar:
I have a tv licence, but I don’t consider that I am better at watching telly than someone who hasn’t bothered to get one!Terrible analogy.
You don’t have to pass a test to get a TV licence.
Don’t tell him that he will have to re-write his CV
Licences held - Cat C,TV.
pete smith:
Contraflow:
Carryfast has turned his boring dial up to 11 again.Like the new relaxed avatar Contraflow
Just chillin.
Contraflow:
pete smith:
Contraflow:
Carryfast has turned his boring dial up to 11 again.Like the new relaxed avatar Contraflow
Just chillin.
At one time class 1 licences were given out like free condoms in a family planning clinic, anyone could get one as long as they knew someone who had an artic and could say that they had driven it regularly even if they had never even sat in the thing. Grandfather Rights they called it. Then somebody invented the class 1 test for drivers to prove to the public that they were more than capable of driving artics without rolling them over on roundabouts or getting stuck under bridges etc which was a great success…
Well, the whole thread is just a wind up anyway!
Pete.
windrush:
At one time class 1 licences were given out like free condoms in a family planning clinic, anyone could get one as long as they knew someone who had an artic and could say that they had driven it regularly even if they had never even sat in the thing. Grandfather Rights they called it. Then somebody invented the class 1 test for drivers to prove to the public that they were more than capable of driving artics without rolling them over on roundabouts or getting stuck under bridges etc which was a great success…Well, the whole thread is just a wind up anyway!
Pete.
+1 this topic must be the biggest load of zb on here for a long time ,best of it is give some of these insecure artic drivers a 6 /8 wheeler & draw bar trailer which is also a good bit longer than thier used too and most can’t back it at all .
Bendy v Rigid. No contest
My firms fleet is about a 50/50 split, and both classes pay the same.
Yes the Artic drivers have a superior licence, but the class 2’s do more work and therefore less ■■■■■■■■!
Its about time these van/rigid drivers were banned from MSA’s. Nothing worse than driving along the line of fellow Gods, and seeing a gap.
To then find an 18 tonne van hidden in there. Must be like ■■■■■■■ in a urinal with John Holmes on one side, and Ron Jeremy on your other.
Evil8Beezle:
My firms fleet is about a 50/50 split, and both classes pay the same.
Yes the Artic drivers have a superior licence, but the class 2’s do more work and therefore less ■■■■■■■■!
But they earn their money by driving or waiting at warehouses while you earn yours by breaking your back pushing around heavy pallets in tight places… dealing with 20+ a holes a day while they deal with <5 a holes a day
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
It becomes very clear how some people are just not able to attain the top licence, they cannot take in basic information. You bang on about drawbar trailers like they are some sort of unattainable goal, yet they can be driven by drivers with an inferior licence. My point, the one you refuse to acknowledge, is that any c&e licence holder could drive one, no class c licence holder could drive a class 1 vehicle.Now, you might not like it, you might not agree with it, but thems the actual facts. It’s not something you should be embarrassed about, some people are just not cut out for difficult jobs.
My point was and still is the fact that there is no relationship between licence categories v level of superiority.Drawbar type combinations from ballast tractor heavy haulage to the examples shown unarguably being at the superior level of the job.As for me unfortunately I spent more time driving inferior artics with my inferior class 1 licence than I did driving superior drawbars which I could have driven on my original superior class 2.
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And my point is that you could drive your hugely difficult draw bars with a class one, but those driving gods couldn’t drive your artic could they, simple as they are. Better licence, better pay, better job.
kyk:
Evil8Beezle:
My firms fleet is about a 50/50 split, and both classes pay the same.
Yes the Artic drivers have a superior licence, but the class 2’s do more work and therefore less ■■■■■■■■!But they earn their money by driving or waiting at warehouses while you earn yours by breaking your back pushing around heavy pallets in tight places… dealing with 20+ a holes a day while they deal with <5 a holes a day
Yep, exactly my point, or the part before I stirred the pot!
I’m happy to drive a VAN for the minute, but will be doing my class 1 very very soon. Not for more money, well not where i’m currently working anyway… It will be predominantly to expand my options & have a great choice of work. And if that means I get the keys of a Berlingo van throw at me for the right money, I’m second in the queue behind Juddian!
Evil8Beezle:
both classes pay the same… but the class 2’s do more work and therefore less ■■■■■■■■!
Both pay the same. "Class 2"s have to do more work. Mmm hmmm.
Jaysus, someone on here starts a thread that is C- trolling at best. And 4 pages later some are still taking it seriously…
I’d say that most people who drive fire engines are average drivers. Some drivers are shockingly terrible drivers who go from near miss to near miss.
F-reds:
Jaysus, someone on here starts a thread that is C- trolling at best. And 4 pages later some are still taking it seriously…
Agreed, it was (presumably) started Tongue in Cheek but it has filled some spare time in! I don’t think anyone has taken it THAT seriously. In reality most folk who can drive a vehicle are capable of driving anything with tuition or common sense, plenty drive artics off highway as I did and it is only a legal requirement that you need a license to prove the fact on public roads.
Pete.
Of course it’s all in jest, I know I just like to poke some members occasionally. Fnarr fnarr.
But that doesn’t detract from the main point, class 1 drivers, by virtue of having a better licence, are the better drivers. That’s got to be obvious to even the most feeble minds on here.
Oh well Billy, you keep believing in whatever gets your rocks off! By that definition then I must be better than the class 3 lads, a little like the old Frost Report sketch on tv youtube.com/watch?v=K2k1iRD2f-c which puts me well below you class 1 chaps but higher than a two axle gritter driver.
Pete.
Terrible analogy.
You don’t have to pass a test to get a TV licence.
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Licences held - Cat C,TV.
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