Professional driver

happysack:
Is dozy thick, retarded or a troll?

No just Truck Nets resident muppit :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Back to the video… the driver did apparently stop just up the road and spoke to the car driver.

No idea how credible that is but it’s whats circling the grape vine

seth 70:

dieseldog999:
looks like he was just unlucky to be in the blindspot from the trucks mirror as assuming he would have automatically looked before coming out.surely everyones nearly done similar at roundabouts etc…or once again,is it just me? :confused:

Yep you are right pal,ive done it loads of times in volvos,their mirrors can cause massive blindspots if summats coming from a certain angle :open_mouth: before anybody pipes up,i know the motor in question not a volvo :unamused:

even if someone is having a bad day,then its never as bad as to do that,so its been the mirror,or door pillar blindspot though I suppose at the end of the day,truckieboy would be to blame,its just one of those wrong place wrong time spots…similar to letting some wifey pull away from the roundabout when the roads clear for miles around to find out shes stopped 10 yards later for no reason…isn’t it amazing how others in the same job,who could easily do the same thing always want the perpertrator banned for life and other such pish?..there but for the grace of god etc…it could just as easily be you tomorrow.

I unintentionally did something similar yesterday, although the circumstances were vastly different.

I was joining a main road from a tiny country lane, on a steep hill with a blind corner to my right. I sat for a good minute until traffic from the left was clear, traffic from the right can’t be seen until it’s upon you, so I just had to go and prey. Typically as soon as I pulled out, a car came flying round the corner and had to swerve a bit to miss my rear end… No drama, no-one died, but no doubt if he had a dash cam it would be all over YouTube by now and I’d be getting slaughtered for pulling out in front of him.
Not my fault the road layouts are so terrible.

Its a good job it wasnt a daf auto,there would have been hell on :open_mouth: :open_mouth: at least with his V8 throbber the fella got away sharpish :wink: :sunglasses:

it looks like one of Fergusons of Spean bridge motors, and looks like he’s come out of Deephaven up at Tain.

I’ve been caught out by the blind spot caused by the A pillar and the mirror, but I managed to stop in time and no damage was caused apart from looking like a ■■■■.

and as an aside, for some reason Fergusons still sit at 40 on the A9

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It’s this vehicle here, operated by GA MacKenzie of Kinbrace, in the colours of its former operator, Sandy Kydd.


SR04 ZRC GA MacKenzie Kinbrace by Jamesy143M, on Flickr

As usual on here the driver is castigated, even the OP derides the driver with his title, just think about it for a moment would any driver experienced or not pull out of that junction knowing there was another vehicle travelling at speed that would pound to a penny collide if they carried on into the main carriageway, of course not, reason being as has been said the vehicle was hidden behind the nearside mirrors, this sort of condition must happen many times and fortunately in this case without collision. I had the same occurrence a little while ago on my offside approaching a junction I had traveled many many times, good vision of the road left and right and nothing either way even with constant left right checks so able to carry on into the carriageway, then just noticed something as I was about to enter the junction, another vehicle. Despite a fairly long approach to the junction this car was travelling at a speed which matched mine and taking the angle of the junction into account allowed it to remain completely hidden behind the main right hand mirror until that last moment when one of my checks caught it, however it was a close thing as the face of the other driver showed. It just needs certain factors to coincide and what you thought was a clear road clearly is not. It did say this driver apologised when confronted which also probably means he had no idea what had occurred. Don’t be too quick to judge even when its on camera.

Glen A9:
All the road markings and high friction surfaces at that junction have been renewed within the last couple of years, there are no issues with visibility of them.

Advance warnings of give ways are only used where there are visibility issues, like the junction being after a bend, or other reasons where traffic may fail to notice, like a straight crossroads.
The layout and signing on the approach to the junction from Invergordon is perfectly adequate, the direction sign makes it clear you are approaching a T junction which you have to give way at. It is a straight road leading to a main road at 90 degrees, there are no acute angles or bends which might mislead you to thinking otherwise.

I think it is a reasonable to say that the section of the A272 and the junction that I posted is as close as makes no difference to the approach and junction involved here.Which leaves the obvious question as to the difference in road layout/markings at the junction and advanced warning of the give way on the approach.While the video suggests exactly the same missing road markings as shown in the google maps image.

Frankydobo:
As usual on here the driver is castigated, even the OP derides the driver with his title, just think about it for a moment would any driver experienced or not pull out of that junction knowing there was another vehicle travelling at speed that would pound to a penny collide if they carried on into the main carriageway, of course not, reason being as has been said the vehicle was hidden behind the nearside mirrors, this sort of condition must happen many times and fortunately in this case without collision. I had the same occurrence a little while ago on my offside approaching a junction I had traveled many many times, good vision of the road left and right and nothing either way even with constant left right checks so able to carry on into the carriageway, then just noticed something as I was about to enter the junction, another vehicle. Despite a fairly long approach to the junction this car was travelling at a speed which matched mine and taking the angle of the junction into account allowed it to remain completely hidden behind the main right hand mirror until that last moment when one of my checks caught it, however it was a close thing as the face of the other driver showed. It just needs certain factors to coincide and what you thought was a clear road clearly is not. It did say this driver apologised when confronted which also probably means he had no idea what had occurred. Don’t be too quick to judge even when its on camera.

To be fair the driver was approaching a hazard situation at an unreasonable rate of speed regardless.The fact that it was a give way/stop situation made that even worse.However as I’ve said the local authority’s obviously cavalier attitude to advanced warning of a give way and non existent road marking to denote the junction seems to have made a bad situation possibly catastrophic in this case.Bearing in mind that lack of advanced warning of the approach to a give way/stop situation could be the only logical reason that would explain the driver’s actions on the approach to same.In which it was inevitable that there was no way that he was ever intending to stop at the non existent line.

OK sorry I derided that driver by calling him a ‘professional’ so I shall rephrase it … ■■■■ of a so called professional driver, the speed he crossed that road junction meant he was driving like a clown and had no intention of stopping.
Might it have resulted in a dangerous driving charge if the law had seen him do it ■■?

The “give way x yds” signs are not the norm at give way junctions, they are used where there is a specific additional hazard. I don’t know why you think that approach to the A9 needs extra signs when it is completely normal approach to a junction with good visibility.

Carryfast:
To be fair the driver was approaching a hazard situation at an unreasonable rate of speed regardless.The fact that it was a give way/stop situation made that even worse.However as I’ve said the local authority’s obviously cavalier attitude to advanced warning of a give way and non existent road marking to denote the junction seems to have made a bad situation possibly catastrophic in this case.Bearing in mind that lack of advanced warning of the approach to a give way/stop situation could be the only logical reason that would explain the driver’s actions on the approach to same.In which it was inevitable that there was no way that he was ever intending to stop at the non existent line.

Im sure from your posts that you’ve driven that road many times but in my opinion (and probably a lot of others), you dont need advanced warning to join that part of the A9. I’ve driven up and down that road and its side roads more times than I care to remember and at no point do you get caught out by the A9 just jumping out on you.

Rich_T:

Carryfast:
To be fair the driver was approaching a hazard situation at an unreasonable rate of speed regardless.The fact that it was a give way/stop situation made that even worse.However as I’ve said the local authority’s obviously cavalier attitude to advanced warning of a give way and non existent road marking to denote the junction seems to have made a bad situation possibly catastrophic in this case.Bearing in mind that lack of advanced warning of the approach to a give way/stop situation could be the only logical reason that would explain the driver’s actions on the approach to same.In which it was inevitable that there was no way that he was ever intending to stop at the non existent line.

Im sure from your posts that you’ve driven that road many times but in my opinion (and probably a lot of others), you dont need advanced warning to join that part of the A9. I’ve driven up and down that road and its side roads more times than I care to remember and at no point do you get caught out by the A9 just jumping out on you.

I ‘could’ say exactly the same thing about that section of the A272 but obviously the local authority ( rightly ) doesn’t agree.

Scania 1-car driver 0, I guess that’s why they call it the king of the road:lol:

Glen A9:
It’s this vehicle here, operated by GA MacKenzie of Kinbrace, in the colours of its former operator, Sandy Kydd.


SR04 ZRC GA MacKenzie Kinbrace by Jamesy143M, on Flickr

No Peekaboo’s■■?

That’s what my money was on. :unamused:

Pimpdaddy:
Scania 1-car driver 0, I guess that’s why they call it the king of the road:lol:

Another retarded comment, I guess that’s why you couldn’t even make it as an agency driver:lol:

Contraflow:

Pimpdaddy:
Scania 1-car driver 0, I guess that’s why they call it the king of the road:lol:

Another retarded comment, I guess that’s why you couldn’t even make it as an agency driver:lol:

I guess so…

The only explanation I can give apart from blind spots is. The car driver had right hand indecator on that the lorry driver has acted upon. Highly unlikely but still possible

Blind spots - pish
Poor signage - pish
Car driver indicating! - pish
Poor road layout - pish
Driver of lorry acting like a complete tool & very lucky to get away with that manoeuvre. Spot on.