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Yep Twain was spot on… but I thought everybody was astute nowadays and knew about thr untrliability of stats …apparentlly some are still fooled.
Stats can be adjusted, manipulated and made to suit any agenda if there is a requirement to fool the people.

Same as polls, far to open to corruption, I never believe polls that is why I have never quoted on this very thread that Reform lead ’ the polls’’ they are meaningless.

As for unreported crimes and lack of Police confidence, of course it is that way, the Police are undermanned, and led by on the whole lefty woke morons prioritising on protecting their carreers. pensions and on woke b/s, like diversity, and pandering to certain religious ethnicities so as 'not to offend ’
Then we have the blatant revenue raising, so general crime and offences take a back seat…

No doubt Franglais will be back with his asking for source proof and his links to refute that in his own inimitable way, but we all have eyes and ears.

Karen offa facebook makes another appearance ladies and gentlemen :joy:…and a mention for GBN.:joy:

‘‘You look at ONS stats before GBN and Karen’’
Try taking off yer lefty blinkers and use yer eyes before you look at any of em .

You forgot to say ‘Grasshopper’’ at the end.:joy:
Come down to earth man ffs.

So when GBN reports that crime is up you do not believe them?
When it is reported that sex crime is up on facebook you assume it is a lie?

Seems to me you believe stats that confirm what you already/want to believe but dismiss out of hand those which are different.

Tbh with you mate I do not give a flying ■■■■ what ‘Seems to You’’ about me…end of. :joy:

Btw…your last paragraph.
Hi kettle I’m pot…yer black.:roll_eyes:
Get yer ironymeter out.:joy:

A little bit of telling it how it is:

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quote truckpro
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2025-12-09/afghan-national-charged-with-■■■■■■-two-14-year-old-girls

Yep but according to our TN apologist…and spin doctor

Not it seems in the context of illegal young scumbags coming here illegally. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:
Again the ‘‘Burn Alive’’ theory kicks in for me.

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Bless them , just look at their overjoyed little faces. Just 24 hours prior they’d been partying like there was no tomorrow when wham…. Stammer turns up to claim credit :joy::joy::joy::joy:

Poor McClaren workforce! The chief fun sponge is in town!

https://fb.watch/DUf0HNq4bP/?

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I mean wtf does he expect?
He’s about as popular as Herpes in the country..:roll_eyes:

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We shouldn’t laugh really, I mean it’s widely accepted that Lando only won because of the advice he received from multiple F1 world champion Rachel Reeves.

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Telling it like it isn’t CCP agent style and I haven’t even watched it to guess.

I thought that this was interesting as it comes from the perspective of an Iranian, you know the type; the kind of person who’s witnessed first hand untold horrors, the type who wouldn’t know a link or official stat even if it bit him in the arse.

The most dangerous lie of the 21st century was that all cultures are interchangeable. Sweden is the irrefutable proof that they are not. As an Iranian who watched my own country fall to extremism, the tragedy unfolding in Scandinavia feels like a recurring nightmare. I have seen a civilization commit suicide before, and the symptoms are always the same: a fatal tolerance for those who explicitly wish to dismantle your way of life.
We are witnessing the total collapse of a utopian fantasy. Sweden now rivals nations like Mexico in bombing frequency for a country not officially at war. This is not merely a crime wave. It is the sound of a society fracturing under the weight of imported conflict. It echoes the silence that eventually fell over my own homeland when the vibrancy of culture was traded for the rigidity of dogma.
Sweden is the canary in the coal mine. It demonstrates that tolerance cannot extend to the intolerant.
As the undeniable cost of these policies mounts, those who understand the gravity of the situation are increasingly intimidated into silence. We have a group where rigorous political discourse thrives among those refusing to look away, and you can join the discussion here Liberty Politics Discussion

I didn’t know you’d caught up with Zaphod, try talking to the one facing the other way.

The second comment just about sums the whole thing up.
(After saying that the first one is also deadly accurate :grinning_face:)

They think they are gaining favour with the public moving them from hotel to military base…cretins.
It just illustrates their incapability to ‘‘read the room’’
As with all lefties in general, they, the govt, are totally out of touch with reality.:roll_eyes:

:joy::joy:

You just knew it would happen under this lot MPs pass ‘Brexit betrayal’ vote on rejoining customs union after crunch Commons debate :roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

Poor aul Ibrahim, he came under false pretence after leaving others to suffer in his homeland and was able to claim asylum after his holiday visa expired and complained about conditions in hotels

How did he get a holiday visa

How was he allowed to apply for asylum while still in uk

Wow ! @maoster
The piece you quote is full of purple prose, isn’t it?
Heavy on emotion but light on facts.

Sweden where allegedly it is a “tragedy unfolding” etc has about the same homicide rate as the UK. It isn’t some wild west of murderers.

True. There isn’t a crime wave at all. Crime in Sweden - Wikipedia

Arm-waving, pearl grasping, smelling salts inhaling, melodramatic, prose based on…what?

Leave out the drama, what is he/are you talking about?

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It wasn’t actually addressed to any member of the Borg collective, it was addressed to actual real people, take your head out of your arse and go out and meet some, you may actually be pleasantly surprised.

You’re welcome

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Here’s another little gem to moisten your tiny whites with as you furiously fact check.

This is his plan…

Don’t they all fill you with the utmost confidence eh? :joy:

Still …(again) ‘‘Not As Bad As The Tories’’ eh? :joy:

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Yes, Dale Vince has donated money to both Labour and the Green Party. Has he donated to Starmer himself?
Dale Vince is a UK resident and UK tax payer wit6h his company based in the UK.

Do you not like business donors to politics then? I don’t.
Although legal I think it should all stop.

This year RefUK Ltd has received £9 million from one man.
Yep, Farage who controls RefUK Ltd has received nine million quid from a person who is not a UK tax payer (that I can see) and lives outside the UK , and has business interests mostly outside the UK.