Seems that Fox News (USA) have made claims about migration and crime in Eire.
Fox News cherry picked odd short periods, of distinct small classes of crimes, stats from …nope not the Garda nor any Gov source …an online betting company article.
This following article is worth reading Fact checking Fox News claims about crime rates and migration in Ireland | Euronews
Yeah you can if ya like, (and especialy if it makes yer feel better by using Facebook to trivialise it) …
OR maybe you could even listen to what I actually said in my reply to you…
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It’s up to you mate, not fussed, whatever you think ‘proves’ the point you are trying to make or refute.
Well no, you wouldn’t would you, …
2 reasons it does not correlate with your way of thinking,.and you would not know MY opinion unless I shared that particular one with you…so what’s yer point exactly?
As for your Fox News link …anything posted by you starting with the words ‘Right Wing’’ is always going to be of the same old calibre and agenda innit.
If you feel the need to refute the Ireland crime thing…( btw were there not protests there about it? , or were those people also '‘Far Right’'
) again…crack on.
So do you think that Fox News is not right wing?
Were there race related protests in Eire? Yes there certainly were. If you take the time to read the article I posted you would realise something about their background.
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“On 19 July, an Indian man was attacked by a group of men in southwest Dublin, who beat him and accused him of inappropriate behaviour with children.
While Irish authorities stated that the allegations against him were unfounded, footage of the aftermath of the attack spread online according to Irish broadcast RTE, leading the footage to gain traction as anti-immigration accounts reshared it.”
Yes, real riots.
And fake news, possibly innocently repeated, does much damage to everyone’s lives.
Did I say that?
My point was you posting something biased to maintain your political stance.
You posted it not me.
Were ALL the protests manned by racists and far right?..and unnecessarily violent?
Or were they as they are on the whole over here, just done by concerned parents and normal everyday people.
As the BBC you mean?..oh no that was more deliberate than innocent when I think back.
We can either leave it there, having both made and established our points…, or carry on with the pointless political tennis.
I’m for the former rather than the latter.
I got that impression, so that is why I was asking a question…?
Fox News is known (by many people) for it’s right wing bias.
The link I provided seems to debunk the right wing reporting by them
. Is debunking right wing stuff being biased?
You posted that Eire had a surge of immigration and related violence.
I posted the link to show how that appears to be biased reporting, by a foreign news outlet, for their own reasons.
No. Some were peaceful and genuinely concerned citizens.
Who were fed misinformation.
Does the BBC make errors? Sure it does.
Mostly however their info is good and bad reporting is corrected and apologised for.
Have any reporters or bosses at Fox ever been sacked for telling fibs?
Try these links about bias in the media. Fox News (foxnews.com) - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check and BBC - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check
In what way did our trade regime with Germany and EEC help workers at Dagenham and Luton and the supply industries that served them.Also using tax payers’ money to prop up BL.While allowing in an onslaught of imports that took away its customer base.The same applied to every sector of our industries.
The whole western trade regime then set towards making Communist China a super power.You think that people like Shore and Trump were/are the problem in all that not the solution.Admittedly half hearted double dealing unknown quantity in the case of Trump.Farage just another Thatcher.
But you are clearly a Callaghan, Blair and Clinton supporter.Your allegiance isn’t to any nation it’s to Socialism. The basket case wrecks of the UK and US economies and ironically Germany now following us, compared to 1960’s and Communism running rampant is the result.
I’ll just leave this for perusal and reflection to see an example to how our country has turned out.
A former Royal Marine,.and Afghan vet, puts on social media that some illegal migrants are ‘‘scumbags’’ and ‘‘psychopaths’’
.So?
Given that most of them are actually scrounging lying scumbags, and many have been r4pists, possiblly or arguably psychotic, what has he said wrong exactly? …
In fact nothing, proven by the fact he was cleared within 17 mins after being initially charged with ’ Inciting racial hatred’'…yep, he’s yet another of the lefty’s ‘‘Far Right Racists’’, but for once common sense and logic prevailed…so all good so far, give credit to the courts.
But now he’s been banned from coaching his young daughter’s football team, because of a …
wait for it,
A child protection concern…the type of which usually kicks in if a n0nce or a violent type is involved.
I personally have young grand daughters, I would have zero problems with this guy coaching them, as would nobody else except the loony left who have done this because his views do not fit in with their pathetic woke attitudes.
He’s suing them and rightly so,.I’d be inclined to pull my kids out of the school.
Yeah because I heard that…not off Fox news specifically, you randomly brought up Fox..not me.
As I said if you want to refute a reported crime wave caused by an influx of illegal criminals, due to Rwandah deterrent, I don’t care, but I’ll stick to what I believe rather than a loaded version from you
Yeah as well as deliberately misleading reports…ie Ghaza and the kid who was related to one of the state terrorists.
Not a scooby mate, I never brought them up, you did. You seem to know a lot about them not me…
Ooh look he’s provided a link to prove a point (that he made and I didn’t.)
Ok if I must, …or maybe I’ll just predict the content…
BBC with a lefty bias is squeaky clean, every other predictably labelled ‘‘Far Right’’ aint.?
OK. So where did you hear it?
What is the origin of the story.
Many people will have seen the Fox story and repeated it (in all good faith) but that does not mean it is truthful and accurate.
And people are hurt and property damaged because of fake news.
Hmmm patience getting tried here.
Do I have to repeat it again?..do you think if you highlight it at me as if I am a child that you will get a different answer?
Yeah likely so…but again, not me.
So there was not an increase in crime at all then, despite it being everywhere else when these scumbags come here.
Ok, they all must have been on their best behaviour that day…
Or hey! Maybe an occasion when they actually all WERE doctors solicitors and scientists.
You really are hard work mate…seriously.
So, you heard the story from some unknown source. Fine.
I too have heard many stories from unknown sources. and some are true, some aren’t.
If I am interested in a particular story I try to find out if it is actually true or not.
I then feel confident to repeat that story as being true, or to contradict it.
So where is the increase in crime shown?
There are indeed many stories about increased migration and seeking to relate that to increased crime, but where is the evidence?
I’m out, cba,.explained my opinion, how I formed it, and pov etc adequately …once again you have worn me down
So until the next toe curling mind numbingly boring conversation fuelled by your contrary technique, and trade mark obtuseness…(or is it ‘obtusiveness’ .
)
Reckon this ‘truce’ is going to be more delicate than the Gaza one, you could get on the Pope or Saint Peter’s collective tits.
And so it goes on.
2 more illegal scum r4ping a 15 year old child…her whole life ruined.
But it’s an official source this time,.so it MUST be genuine news eh,…so that’s all right.
How many more of these 3rd world dregs are we going to allow in, let alone let them wander among decent people.
As a Dad I would want to burn these little ■■■■ s alive if it was one of mine that they brutalised.
Furthermore they were first reported as ‘‘2 Leamington men, in a ’ Welsh choirboy’’ style,.I can’t think why.
Just watching Yusef of Reform making mincemeat of some lefty apologist clown on GBN about all this…
This is a GBN report earlier on this.
Just watch and listen to the absolute outrage from.a womans pov on this (about 5 MINS in) about the safety of women and how it has been decreased since the influx of these types into our country,.and how the left re.act to anybody who shows disapproval.
That people are really angry is true. That the streets are more dangerous now because of migrants is not so sure.
There are more migrants out there than a few years ago, but crime rates, including sex crimes are down.
Sexual offences in England and Wales overview - Office for National Statistics Sexual offences in England and Wales overview - Office for National Statistics
Yeah ok Franglais, you keep folowing your stats and your official lines and keep telling yourself it’s all true…
Open borders letting in a virtual invasion of young uncivilised men of a third world culture,.wandering freely whilst bored…yeah they’ve gotta be right.
The rest of us will carry on in the real world.
Do you actually and genuinely believe all this crap you spin, or is it just for effect to prompt debate.
So government have nationality of prison inmates, there for ALL to see as evidenced by official data made public. So government know exactly what ALL convicted prisoners are serving time for. Link the 2 and hey presto, a breakdown of crimes committed by which nationalities. SIMPLES.
Mark Twain was a great writer, and gave food for thought.
Numbers are like letters, they are the building blocks of stats or words.
Tools can be used for good or ill, and statistics, just like words can lie, or tell the truth. In all cases take time to understand what they are really saying.
Do not believe them blindly and do not ignore them. They are imperfect but are the best we have.
I will look at ONS stats before I will look at reports on GBNews or from karenoffafacebook.
The link I gave was to the ONS Crime Survey. Their methodology is explained on the ONS site.
It is not crime stats from the Police.
