Political discussions...

@Andy
It’s like this with me mate.
Firstly when it comes to choosing and voting, I aint naive enough not to know all politicians are liars and that at pre election they will say what they think you want to hear.

Saying that you can only play with the hand of cards you are dealt, so I listen to all sides, try and cut through the b/s, then I decide which party is going to be the best, for first me and my family, then my country.

I could not give a flying f*** if the guy eho is candidste or leader has a dubious history, whether he did not pay a parking fine in 1988, or if he once kicked a cat when he was a kid.:roll_eyes:
It is what I think he can do now to improve my and mine’s lives and improve on what goes on in my country.

At present neither of the 2 main parties fit that remit, so you pay yer money and take yer chance.

The 2 prominent people in political circles who correlate with how and what I think at the moment, are Farage,.and to a lesser extent Tommy Robinson.

The reason I have NO shame in saying that, is that I do not succumb to the Lefty bo110cks put about that either or are racist, and that anybody who knows me personally, and/or anybody who matters to me know that neither am I.

Anybody who chucks out those accusations are usually party prominents, and lefty timid 'useful idiots (timid to the fact that these political views are a threat to their own) neither have no creedence or relavance to me.

And the labels and insults they bandy about (at the drop of a hat when you do not agree with their limp wristed ideas) come under my ‘‘litmus test’’ heading to the point where their racist and far right labels paradoxically have became to me anything from a vindication to a compliment .:smiley:

Jeez I need a drink I got a bit carried away there…I could hear ‘‘Land of Hope and Glory’’ playing in the background when I typed that out.:joy:

I need to cocentrate on tomorrow’s England game to clear my swede of all this politics crap. :joy:

And there you have it, a delusional hobet thinking he knows best for himself and everyone else

It’s called living in the past and having your eyes closed for the last 50 years, also known as a racist who is preaching thoughts and words from the only source he has his phone and could be called a uneducated fool who believes everything he sees online

He thinks he’s the second coming with all the same words and crap he spouts but it’s just repeat repeat crap

A bit of advice hobet stop hiding behind your posts and get out in the real world and do something that you try and preach to other people

In other words it will never happen, I can imagine you sitting on your desktop trying to spin your same old words in as many different ways as you can

giphy

Everyone and anyone could write your posts as its the same crap, repeat, repeat

The good news is your not the only hobet you have a few mates that are as bad as yourself

To who do you refer? :popcorn:

Errrr I think he’s referring to little moi.:joy:…he’s my new no1 fan evidently.:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

We both know he loves me really, but I aint sure if his Mam would approve…who incidentally is now helping him with his spelling and grammar I suspect, it seems to have improved from other times he has tried to have a pop at me.:grinning_face:

Nah…not biting, cba, he’s vented his spleen he feels better about himself, who am I to spoil his day.:joy::joy:.

Just to add …I have never undertaken an exam for any health organisations in the United States…
So tell yer Mam it’s actually HOBBIT that I suspect she means…and not HOBET. (Just for next time :+1:)
Cheers.:wink:

Think it’s been done to death now.:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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thing is with all this. if starmer said ok this has come to my attention im suspending you until a investigation by an independent party has been done not a well refer yourself to my mate to look at it. then no one would have as much of an issue with the way it was dealt with.

However, he chose to stand up and blame the far right for it because of the way she spoke when he knew she had done wrong. They both deserve all the ridicule they get.

Refer youself to my mate?
The current ethics advisor Laurie Magnus was appointed by Sunak when he was PM.

Sunak apponted him after two ethics advisors had resigned after Johnson ignored what they told him when he was PM.

and who cares who appointed him he is still one of starmers pals

you mean the bloke that suspended anyone that was accused of doing wrong until he had the real facts and ignored the lefty drivel from starmers mate

Fantasy land…..

Priti Patel was accused of bullying. She was not suspended. An inquiry found the accustions were true. Johnson ignored the inquiry findings, in fact he tred to suppress them, and she kept her job.

ummm maybe she wasnt bullying…i dunno seems reasonable to me.

but reeves stole thousands in housing benefit wasnt sacked
whats his face called for peoples throats to be cut… didnt go to jail
saddiq laundered money for her aunt wasnt sacked
rayner so far hasnt been made to repay the 40k stamp duty its been left for hmrc to investigate

need i go on?

The independent advisor said she was. Years later and after gathering zero evidnce you say differently…..OK, we can see wheer you are coming from.

Stole? What were you sayimg preb=viously about melodrama?!

Really? Says who? She was accused of financial offences by a poliotician: a political opponent of her aunt in another country. No UK inquiry that I know of has supported those accusations?

Yes. The standards advisor said she has a case to answer. HMRC have not found her guilty of any offence, but she resugned straight after the advisor’s report was made.

Maybe she will need to pay £40k, and maybe a fine on top of that. So far that is up for investigation by HMRC.

No one should be free to vote for Socialism.We’ve given blood and treasure to stop it elsewhere so why allow it here.

I saw the light when fat cat Callaghan imposed below inflation wage increase limits on the so called ‘working class’.Also giving away British jobs to German workers in the interests of European Socialism.

Support for the working class in a Harold Wilson, Jim Callaghan, Tony Blair sort of way.

Their loyalty is to Socialism and how Socialism improves their own interests.

It’s called a democracy, I will vote who I want, whether it be Tory,lib dems, greens , independent, count bin face, MRLP. And don’t need someone telling me who I can and can’t vote for

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the independent advisor read loonie leftie huh
you cant disprove a negative

it ws you that started the melodrama comment not me im simply pointing out th hypocrisy of it coming from you. and yes defrauding benefits is theft.

um apart from the indipendant investigator huh that tried to bury it like he did with rayner. The reason there isnt a formal investigation is because starmer refused to have one.

yes because they havent investigated yet as i said. only reason she resigned is because she had no choice. she knew she was guilty… starmer knew she was guilty… so she resigned patel knew she wasnt bullying johnson knew she wasnt bullying so she didnt resign see how it works???

one thing none of them have done is appolagise. whats his face that borrowed 5k appolagised publicly and paid the money back monday morning/ ie as soon as he could get to the bank.but apparently he should of been hung drawn and quartered. has rayner contacted the hmrc and arranged a payment plan if she doesnt have the 40k tucked awat from her other dodgy dealings/

dear dear

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^^^^^^^^^
Yeah yeah yeah whatever..
But at least they :quote…
‘‘Aint as bad as the Tories’’
:unquote.
:roll_eyes:

(Why do I feel ANOTHER long list coming on
Boris lied to the Queen,yada yada had a party at no 10 garden yada yada…yawn yawn.:roll_eyes:
yeah we know, it’s history, let’s talk about the present cluster ■■■■ pm and govt)
:joy:

Another Nadine Dorries fan here explaining a few things. https://youtube.com/shorts/ya03OhWJI4k?si=a6tb7UQtRIAjiJNT

With so many Tories jumpng ship, when will there be more of them inside RefUK Ltd than outside?

apparently there have been 2 others… so that makes three… how many have left labour more than three i think