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I “take offence” that poor comedians are having to work so much harder. How can they parody anything so trite and confected as that video?

OK. You can’t use reason to disprove his points, so you resort to name calling.

I have looked at and taken the piss out of this poor victim who has had to run away from the UK and seeks foreign interference to aid him. I try to address what he says.

Again you choose not to use reason nor debate, but gloat and take pleasure in what you perceive as making others feel bad. Ah well, each to their own I guess.

What do the majority think? I think the majority in the UK do not like Trump.

Crime is important. Although the screaming of much of the media, and many politicians might make you believe otherwise, and as many of us look at the past through rose tinted specs, most crime is down in this country from where it was a few decades ago.

I will guess that you will tell me you “see with your own eyes” more crime. Yep. There is tons more dramatic video of crimes happening live. YouTube puts up hours of events that we can see happening. It is dramatic and real and stays with us. Some “news channels” have it all on loops. That does not mean there is more of it happening. It does mean we are seeing more of it.

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You are beyond reason mate……and belief.

Just you carry on living in your deluded socialist nirvanic fantasy world, whilst the rest of us deal with actual reality…..and the cluster ■■■■ it throws up.

I notice you failed to try and sell us the point that Labour are doing a good job, even you are stumped when it comes to achieving the impossible it seems..

Seriously mate you provide me/us with hours of amusement…….keep it up.:smiley:

Am I? Well, since you tell us that you do not even try to use reason….how would you know?

Well noticed. I didn’t.

I am not happy with progress made. But then again I didn’t expect much in the first year of two of a different Government. If anyone thinks that an economy will be transformed in a year they are mistaken. So long as the country is headed in the right direction in, say, 2028, I think that is all we can reasonably expect.

I know that many politicians are saying “if only it was me in charge” etc etc, “all fixed by just this one simple move” etc etc, but that is ■■■■■■■■. (I await an army of straw men)

Will never stop them have no idea what the solution is. End of the day the French don’t want them there .so there not going to go out of the way to stop them.
Was a fella on radio 4 last week saying. Years back they came in back trucks etc eventually UK authorises were based in France and it basically stopped as they had some power on french land.
Fast forward to today there’s no British authorities on the ground in France hence why it’s happening.
Only way numbers will come down is if we have a year of storms n rain n bad weather.
Whil weathers like this obviously there going to make most of it

So what about the issue of national and border security and it,s correlation with crime….particularly s3x crimes and paedophilia, because somebody thinks it,s acceptable and a good idea to maintain puting these young male chancers and scumbag in out communities living it up in 4star hotels…..ok granted started by ‘‘The Tories’‘ to save you a job.:roll_eyes:

Instead of Starmer smashing the gangs :joy:, all he has done is paid more money to one of his EU mates, (who incidentally do the far end of f.all to stop the boats, but actually encourage them.) so now instead of a 100% chance of these young men getting an all inclusive package in a UK hotel, it has been reduced to about 95%…..wow what a deterrent eh?

I bet that will discourage them ….and have his ‘gangs’ quaking in their sandals.

I wonder in comparison how Trump would deal with it and how much success he would have in doing so.:thinking:

OK, what correlation is that?

UK Customs/Border Force are in Calais just as French Douane/Police Frontiers (or whatever they are all called today) are in Dover. In the years I was doing UK/Europe driving the security went up a lot at all ports.

From almost open ports and only a few jumping on trucks, to more getting on trucks and so increased security all the time. Most ports on the Eu side now have miles of high razor wire fencing, cameras, sensors, heat, CO2, dogs, etc etc guarding them.

The guards I have seen do take their jobs seriously. Every time they do an extra check you get “Union Flag waving Brit Truckers” moaning about being delayed by half an hour!

Th migrants who get in small boats are desperate and determined. As you say there is no easy fix. If there was it would have been used already. That doesn’t mean we should give up and do nowt, but anyone promising a quick fix is a scammer.

Well, so long as you are not being a hypocrite and attacking the video maker, eh Rob?

Should I apply for a job as a script writer. A short while ago Rob Groves put up a video about crime levels, immigration, fear, and simple solutions to complex problems. Don’t worry he is not a deluded, Northern, lefty, prat. Or not my opinion at least, but others will doubtless disagree.

Ahh so ‘‘you don’t understand’’ :roll_eyes:….aye right.

Or there is no correlation in your nose led view, no imported r4pists with no respect for women, and the paedos who think it’s ok to interfere with kids because of their pi55 poor medieval culture and ways….then the general crime wave from these people despite the official stats refuting or which are massaged and spun, which you automatically swallow and as a useful idiot regurgitate to anyone unfortunate enough to have to listen.

Then you bizzarelly say because I focus on these scumbag paedos and rapists, I condone our home grown crew…….idiot !

The govt’s first priority is to protect it’s own people, they are failing miserably in allowing every Tom Dick and Ali to come here and live freely amongst us, and providing an incentive to do so.

It will never stop as long as these socialist clowns are in as they can see nothing wrong with it.

As I said the Leftist rule is a cancer on our country and way of life …..you should be ashamed for defending it all.

In one.

It’s just my zero tolerance towards d/heads manifesting its’ self, you especially should appreciate that after being on the end of it .(so as to speak)

Nope. I understand the words you are using. I ask what correlation you are referring to? What figures are you talking about? And i know you keep knocking the “official figures” so what figures are you using?

What (alleged) correlation?

First straw man, then. No one says that no criminals are allowed into the country. Rather obviously if thousands of people enter the country then some of them will be criminals.

We do not even stop those we know to be felons. We do not outright ban those found by juries to be sex offenders.

A bit of repetition on my part here then: what figures do you have that are more accurate then?

Straw man #2. Who sees nothing wrong going on? Who does not care about crimes?

Ah….”leftist rule”? Is that a democratically elected Labour Government you mean? “A cancer”? Ah, a Gov you did not vote for yourself I guess? So long as the drama queen is haunting your keyboard we won’t escape such purple prose will we?

Straw man #3. Where did I say you condone home grown criminals? I didn’t. I did say you concentrated disproportionately on the foreign ones.

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Seriously mate you really are the most conceited insufferable know it all,.the tragedy being that you are convinced you are right and everyone else is wrong

You personify, represent and defend everything that is wrong with this country today,.and the type of person who has caused it.

I’d go as far as to say it would be poetic justice for you to find yourself wearing an orange boiler suit facing a crazed jihadi who had just arrived on a dinghy,.after refusing to see anything wrong with these guys in your role as useful idiot……how s that for being a drama queen?

Oh yeah and shove your ‘‘straw men’‘ right up your r3ctum.

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the solution is simple. couple of frigates and sail round them at full throttle and hard rudder the wake will do the rest. do it on the border and let the french pick them up out the drink if they wish.

it didnt stop because all they could do was turf them out the back of the lorry if they found them and let them go. They used to stand at traffic lights waiting for the trucks to stop so the drivers got wise to that so they used to wait in the laybys the gendarm knew this and used to pull british lorrys into the layby on some trumped up thing that the driver would be let off mean while a dozen of the scum have climbed in the back

nope numbers will come down if we have an effective deterent. stop putting them up in 4* hotels and giving them all the perks.

Yep, all true….It was normally one of the lay-bys on the Blvd Périphérique, the Gendarme had a big red beard, spoke with a Scots accent, reeked of Ricard, and had a Gitanes hanging out of his mouth.

More lefty woke crap taking precedence over everything else.

A shopkeeper sick to death of shoplifters and the Police doing nothing about it, locks up his display cabinets leaving a note saying

‘‘Sorry cabinet locked due to Scumbag shoplifters’’

Police finally turn up, not to investigate the crimes, but to ask him to take down the sign ……as someone who was offended reported him.:joy:

I don’t blame the Coppers doing as ordered but if it was me I’d refuse to take it down and tell them to tell their superior (no doubt pc lefty) officer to go and ■■■■ himself, and to ask him when he was going to investigate the habitual shoplifting, and help him get his stock back.

@Franglais…..For the record…..Source of info. LBC News.

Presenter Vanessa Feltz……see what you can dig up on either or both to take the focus off the embarrasing (for your style of politics) scenario..:joy:

Happy to reply.

Yep. Sounds like the cops have got it wrong. Arguably the word “scumbags” might not be nice in the shop window, facing the pavement? But I think they have it wrong. If the sign is above the height of young kid’s eyeline, no problem.

Also here Shopkeeper is stunned when police tell him to change sign calling shoplifters 'scumbags' because it may be offensive | Daily Mail Online

Over 200 arrested in London. Wonder if they will be fast tracked through the legal system and jailed for supporting a now proscribed terrorist organisation. After all Karen off Facebook and others were given the go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go do not collect £200 treatment. What’s good for the goose….

Yep, I heard over 200 as well. There are apparently 800 Police cells in London, so that might be a quarter of them taken up before Sat night gets under way.

They will probably find their lives will change if it gets to court and they are found guilty on a Terrorism connected rap, however tenuous.

Employment and travelling to certain countries for starters.

Good enough for them…..supporting a murderous terrorist scum organisation who are indoctrinated in wiping all Jews out and taking Israel off the map.

It seems that anti semitism is the acceptable face of racism with these lefty (mostly middle class I bet) f/wits.

just goes to show who the real trouble makers are. Even the stockport protests didnt have that many in a day