Political discussions...

I make no defence of that.

Does that spending by Labour, alter the increase from nothing to £150,000 for political advisors in one local council?
No, it does not. It is still Refuk talking about waste and non elected officials, paying £££ for previously unnecessary advisors to tell them what to do.

it wasnt a council it was the gov…ie Farage, Anderson etal.

However if it was the councils then so what. they have saved billions. if i said to you you owe me 10 pounds and you said no i dont. Would you accept an audit by me that showed you owed me 10 pounds.

if i spent a fraction of that 10 pounds on an independent audit that showed i owed you 10 pounds it has more weight to it and you may accept that and i get my 10 pounds back.

spending 1.3 billion on how to run the country and still screwing it up big time is an outrage.

what like starmer pledged to do you mean?

I repeat the link in my previous post about Warwick Council. Reform slammed for £150k spend on political aides

Really? Where is that please?
Since Refuk Ltd has only had control of councils for a few months, and since they have saved billions, can we expect savings of trillions by the end of their terms?
The National debt will be paid in weeks at this rate!

how will it help national debt when that is a government issue not a county issue. besides all reeves keeps doing is adding to it… who could of predicted that.

i dont read leftie drivel and there was no other source for it.

all over the local papers because the msm wont print it… why do you think starmer is filling his trousers.

a bottom of the rung climate adviser in kent earns 35-45k her boss earns nearly 100k the head of the climate committee that comes into the office once a month if your lucky and then decides to postpone the meeting for another month earns over 150k

10 people at 35k = 350k + 100k + 150k = 500k

they have also saved 140million in cuts just one council. so thats 1.4 billion if spread equaly across the councils… some will be more some may be less.

The last Council proposed savings of £75m.
It is now, under Refuk Ltd a proposed saving of £140million.
Refuk reckon on an extra £65 million.

Let us see what happens about 12 months from now?
Plans and proposals have a habit of not panning out too well. Farage and his Brexit promises are an excellent example of this.

Farage has called for the resignation of the Chief Constable of Essex.
It appears that he did a lot of research, consulted widely, and took statements from many witnesses. He took a long time to deliberate and find a responsible way forward.
OR
He saw a video and gobbed off.

Anyway The Essex Chief Constable has rejected his call to resign. Essex Police say Nigel Farage claims about migrant hotel protest are 'categorically wrong' | Politics News | Sky News

and even admits that they have been doing it. However there will be no need to resign starmer being fair and unprejudiced will have the copper banged up by lunch time tomorrow for inciting violence

I see even he has (just) stopped short of calling the worried and severely concerned Mams and Dads…‘‘The Far Right’’ on this occasion.:flushed_face:

You can imagine the conversations…
‘‘But Prime Minister these are just normal concerned people just concerned for the safety of their young daughters’’.

'‘Yeah but it does not fit the narrative, just stick to it, concentrate on the hooligan element, for all the supporters and useful idiots… oh yeah and see if the ‘free Palestine and ‘refugees welcome’ contingent is available to shift the focus.’’.
:joy:

Here’ s ‘karen offa facebook’ stealing ‘Herbert off You tube’'s job …I’m getting confused with all this.:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Anyhoo here’s a concerned female Brit citizen, maybe a mother (aka in Starmerworld… a ’ Far right racist’ ) giving her opinions to a Moslem man.

There are ordinary citizens protesting in Epping. True enough.
They are not the ones climbing over Police vehicles and attacking and injuring officers though. Of course they aren’t. Are you calling for those attacking the Police to be fast tracked to jail? To be sent to foreign prisons?
And what of those who are stirring up the rioters? Those slagging off the Police? Those who run down and diminish the UK in front of the world? Do you condemn the lies of Farage who accused the Police of being responsible for violence?

Yes…anything else you want to know?
Sorry to shoot down your argument btww

See above.

You and your ilk say they are lies…were you there?
It’s his word against theirs.
Oh btw I’d like to see those of the ‘‘Far Left’’ go the same way. but the 2 tier system prevenys that.
Cheers.

Was Farage there? Or is he relying on a video and the comments of one who appears to have been a participant.
If Farage has evidence let him show it.
I would take the word of a copper that a dozen calm, and unmasked, counter-protesters were being bused to safety in a vehicle, when we see and hear loads of protesters (no mums and kids on view here) rather than the word of a serial liar politician that protesters were being bused into a protest.

If you find Farage credible?
Shocking! But I am not surprised at all.

Saying it is “just one word against another” is a stupid argument. If someone makes a serious accusation they should have evidence. One video with a commentary by a participant is hardly that

you forgot and being deliberately run over rather than being ferried about and given tea and biscuits.

you mean the antifa and the police. Every single protest has gone well until the left turned up. Throwing eggs and rubbish and calling people horrible names for defending their children. people are going to get upset. Pedophiles illicit a strong reaction. You got away with it on here because people dont read you posts properly. Try and walk down the street even in your leafy borough with a sign saying pedophiles welcome here and see how welcome you are made to feel.

yep the whole world is laughing at us because we are seen as a soft touch. Soon as anyone says enough is enough your labeled far right at the least and thrown in jail at worst. Every other country that has an immigration issue the police have dealt with the immigrants not those that have the backbone to stand up and say thats enough. Only in britain do the police side with the lefties.

they are responsible do i need to post the video again of the essex chief of police admitting they ferried the antfa to the site? Again every single anti immigration protest has been peaceful until the left turned up.

incidentally i notice that you were in support of the lefties in la that caused far more damage and violence to members of the public’s property. You were quite happy to parrot the official line of “they are just having fun” and quite happy to condemn the police because they went after the trouble makers.

forgot to add maybe they didnt realise they were police.

This is f-ing disgusting

Judge Neil Flewit has told the jury that the two Pakistani gentlemen are of good character and it is unlikely that they have broken the law. Mean while this is the judge that called the victim a bully with a badge and the same judge that sentenced people for hurty words during the southport atrocity and subsequent cover up. It is the same judge that sentenced Luke Moran a father of 3 with no previous charges was sentenced for TRYING to break a police car window to 3 years and called it “as bad a case as i have seen”. The same judge that sentenced McIntyre in jan this year to 7.5 years

Calm down man. :joy:
It’s like Trump …you really should control your disproportional hatred of these people,.Boris, Trump, Farage et all.:joy:
If they found cures for cancer you would still find sonething negative.

This is why I …(and anybody else on here for that matter,) have difficulty taking anything you say about them seriously.
As I have said…it passes the Lefty.Litmus Test.:grin:

The copper that Franglais is taking the word of, has a crime solving success rate around 15% it has been said.
He is too busy pandering to the indoctrination of the cancerous Left.
His priorities are diversity, rainbow flags, not offending the likes of the Terrorist supporting pro Palestinian protest clowns, and such Lefty based dog sh, over actual crime and law and order.
So prefer to believe who you like.
Afaik he was responsible for the arrest of that journalist in the early hours of the morning for saying hurty words…just about days all ya ned to know.

Said who? Do you believe it? What exactly?
Is it that Essex Police has a15% clear up rate for all offences?

Oh ffs man.:joy::joy:

So I make a comment with a caveat of…‘‘It has been said’’ and as ever that aint good enough for Franglais.:roll_eyes:

He wants ’ ‘‘smoking gun’’ type proof., so that he can rubbish a source of whom he has no pollitical liking for no doubt.

Hint, In the words of Donna Summer…
I HEARD IT ON THE RADIO !

I did not log the date and time, or make a written note of the channel and presenter (funnilly enough) so if you are that concerned in your lifelong quest to be always right and never wrong, give Essex Police a bell and come back to me.

So WHO said it?
Farage? Trying telling more untruths?
A local saying how good the Police are? A local saying how bad the Police are?
A criminal? A copper?

By the way, Farage has (begrudgingly) apologized for talking bollox by the way. He now says the Police did not bus protesters into the demo.
Seems he has now actually been to the trouble of talking to the coppers involved.