there are 24,000 primary and secondary schools (including special needs and private) in england. that would be an average of 83 per school. absolute joke. Even if they sit quietly in the back of the class they will disrupt it for their prayers special dietary requirements and crap. not to mention as you said all the extra religious studies
anyone remember the rent boys ..oh sorry i keep forgetting they were russian spies… well they are banged up in belmarsh on the high security wing awaiting a plea hearing in october and a trial set for 26th june next year. why so long when starmer is so good at throwing anyone who disagrees with him in jail. couldnt possibly be that he needs time to pull his trousers back up could it? or is it that before the trial there will be a riot where they are accidentally killed
@robroy
OK, so approx 21% of pupils in England have another language, not English, as their first language. No argument from me.
You say that is not a problem? OK.
Where is that fact from please?
OK…and you are not always talking about race, nor are a racist…understood.
I can easily see that parents want the best for their kids.
I have not criticised any parents who pay for educational advantage for their kids.
I have said that advantage is unfairly available to the richer in society. I say that if the better off, and law makers had to send their own kids to state schools, that their was no unfair route available, then school standards would increase for all kids. And what is so wrong with that?
you have you have openly said you would ban them from sending their kids there
its pie in the sky is whats wrong with that.
i showed yesterday that 2.41 kids have to stay in private education to pay for 1 child that leaves.
there are 593,486 as of jan last year it costs 37,000 at last years costs to put a single child through secondary school so where is the 21.96 billion to educate them all where is that going to come from… maybe we have found reeves black hole after all
this isnt even touching on all the money that is put into the economy by overseas students/
Tax.
If there are tax exemptions available for someone, then I would not criticise them for using those exemptions.
I can also say that some exemptions are wrong and should be ended.
I do not blame parents for acting within laws to do the right thing for their kids.
I maintain it is unsupportable that the better off can buy advantage…not because they are bad parents…because the schools are too variable in quality. Schools need better Gov support and banning private schools will help concentrate the minds of MPs etc.
so your idea is create a problem that doesnt exist and then tax everyone more for it.
Nothing at all, that is real world stuff, a fact of lifr …nothing can be done.
It’d a bit like saying if I didn’t have to pay tax I’d be quids in and have a better standard of living…
But as with everything else, nothing I can do but accept it and deal with it in any way to my advantage.
In the same way some oarents send their kids to private school.
So why are we arguing, when the conclusion is ‘‘Crap situation, deal with it best you can’’.
I’d like to think that is an admission of being wrong and/or the closest I will get to an apology.
Why do I think it is flippancy interspersed with a hint of sarcasm.
I can only hope…
(‘hope’ is maybe the wrong word as I don’t really care…but it would be a start after saying that)
Yes by trying to change it.
Not by saying
Don’t just quit and allow ■■■■ to happen. I thought you were made of sterner stuff.
Due to some creative editing from @cooper1203 after I made a post in reply,. it might be that my post is open to misinterpretation.
He first said that I was against parents doing the right thing for their kids. I used tax as an example of how one can correctly use rules, but how those rules might be wrong. Parents might be right to use private education, but needing and having private education as an option is still wrong.
@cooper1203 then added to his original post an extra bit about tax that may give the impression I was responding to that. I wasn’t.
just to expand on this…
there are 34.01 million working adults in england earning an average wage of 37,430. to just keep the status quo from a purely education point not worrying about lost jobs and foreign money boosting the economy etc etc each working person would have to pay an extra 645.70 in tax. They already pay 7,486 so they would now have to pay 8131.70 or another 2% which means they would be 53 quid a month worse off.
There was me thinking that you said people couldnt afford to live or rent etc etc yet you want them worse off
i know you wernt hence why i quoted your bit and responded to that
trouble is if anybody does they get called far right and locked up
dont worry i have already addressed the issue, in future i will make sure that you havent replied to anything whilst im correcting my post.
Of course you could of edited your post once you saw i had edited mine. But then you would of had to address my points or ignore them in your own inevitable style. rather than trying to play the victim because you know you cant answer them.
you have made no bones about how you want to increase taxes.
im not trying to make you look silly you dont need any help
.Ok Franglais calm yourself man… let’s not get carried away here by ’ The people’s uprising’’ b/s…you are starting to sound like your mate off here ‘‘Wolfie’’.
So ok … dealing with realism and not some fantasy idealism..
My kid faces going to a school that is total crap, I need him educated NOW… not in 10 years time after the revolution…
The private school up the road needs to know by tomorrow to keep a place…
What do I do?
What would you do?
Me…I’d bite the bullet and go private, and try and get the funfing back in discreet ways and methods from other sources…
Ooh I am mate trust me…
I also know and accept (reluctantly) that me as a mere ‘pleb’ can ''NEVER beat ‘The Establishment’ …there are those in jail under the ‘‘far right’’ for trying.
So just like at work deal with that sort of crap by winning but appearing to lose, whilst keeping yer head down and trying to beat them with their own stick…
So don’t concern yourself with my ways of dealing with stuff mate…I do just fine.
What about you ?
Yes, OK.
And I would not blame you.
But does that mean “the revolution” which might be too late for the kids going to school today, should not happen at all? why not try and make things better for grand and great-grand kids?
thing is we are… less immigration means less kids added to the number of domestic kids. means lest wasted time in class with language and social issues. less money wasted on having to cater to these people.
need i go on
Yep I’m with you.
But how?..again in realty.
Your ‘‘revolution’’ …but I said in reality.
Or…
The old…‘Vote for who you agree with on the day’’ chestnut.
But as proven whatever party you vote for never keeps promises..
So we are back to square 1 on the snakes and ladders board.
So what now?..
Get the camouflage jackets and full face balaclavas out?
Thing is that won’t work either.
So I’ll stick to my own ways ehich have worked for me so far.
Revolution does not have to be an armed uprising!
No need to sharpen up the points on your pitchfork 
I am saying we need higher priority and better funding for schools.
I maintain that so long as the “chattering classes” MPs, richer persons, journalists can escape sending their own kids to possibly sub-standard schools, by sending them to private ones, then priority will not be given to state schools.
It will not happen tomorrow, but that is no reason not to start actions now.
so you agree then that flooding the place with illegals letting people have as many kids as they want while sitting on benefits and taxing kids out of private schools while doing nothing to increase funding to the state schools is bloody stupid?
What '‘Actions’ when those '‘chattering classes’ as you point out include MPs, the ones who make and change laws and policies…they have had over 100 years to change things to improve education facilities..
and many othet things.
So again…‘‘in reality’’ it remains another ‘if only’ situation.
So when and more importantly how,.are things going to change,.when those responsible for change aint bothered.