Political discussions...

What.. airline pilots?

If they are delivering food on mopeds, they can’t be insured as have no identification.
We can only surmise and hypothesise at this conjecture that the vehicle has no valid MOT or VED.

If it’s illegal workers making the food they won’t be trained and have the necessary qualifications to cook and prepare food, so the lack of hygiene is a problem and so is getting food poisoning.

Bear in mind that commercial drivers must pay a £10,000 penalty if clandestine are located on their vehicle,the owner operator is also fined £10,000 for each clandestine.

An additional penalty is for an insecure vehicle which is £6000, regardless if the authorities find them or not.

It’s a criminal offence to assist in the act of unlawful immigration, the Border Force and RNLI are not getting any charges against them for bringing them all in.

On a video, there is audible evidence of the French navy officers demanding the return of the life jackets on a conversation to Border Force in the channel.

A former detective once provided evidence that the life jackets have stamps on them of department of trade with official serial numbers.

Yes. Well known that F/B has these kind of adverts.

And it is also well known that some confuse F/B and adverts with reality.
But would anyone be dumb enough to think that a F/B advert is a good and accurate description of UK immigration policy?

Sir Keir couldn’t smash a grape let alone a gang.

Is there an issue with employment of riders/drivers?
Is it to do with the “gig economy”? Zero hours/sub-contractors/ camouflaged employment?
Does that allow the evasion of proper regulation, and force down lower wages for genuine companies?

I have seen spot checks carried out by immigration officers when they questioned moped riders doing food deliveries.
Pop up kitchens are growing in numbers around the country.
And some are in converted shipping containers.

Here is an interesting YT for anyone that wants a critique of the current state of play. I find it makes some very valid points.
Until we have a proper democratic PR system though…

:joy:..Casually refuted and written off as nonsence as usual then eh, rather than consider it goes against all you promote and believe on here…classic Franglais.

The only dumb one I can see here is the resident useful idiot in denial…as usual.

Again …my post is not based on some political agenda or doctrine (like the dumb posters you mention,in fact :thinking:)
This lad spent a period on security…first hand among these characters…it is the sort of work he does.

He spoke to those who spoke English and THAT is what he was told by the actual people in question.
What motive could they have for giving him false info in a general conversation…not an interview or interrogation.

So pipe and smoke mate…your latest attempt at ‘smartarsery’’ has failed…Again.!

you mean the pr system that banged on for weeks about flipping wall paper but nothing about the rent boys… or starmers dodgy dealings with lord ali etal just leftie drivel about how wonderful it is

too bad some of the broadsheets and others have responded to these adverts and made the journey huh

And I have said nothing contrary to any of that. I fully agree that adverts like that appear on F/B.

Do you actually think that adverts from traffickers, who trade in human beings, exploit the desperate and risk the lives of their “customers” are accurate?

dunno i havent seen any traffickers that do that. The ones that these scum use bring them safely over from what ever hell hole they came from where they are welcomed here with the best accomodation and free food and get more money than those on the dole or in jail not to mention all the other freebies like dental appointments that those on the dole dont get or those in jail

Well from what I hear the freeloaders who come over here masquerading as refugees, (or at least some of them) do,… supposedlly after following them up.
He was told about this on many occasions apparentlly,.and it is well known amongst the illegal foreign scrounger fraternity.
But it aint been stated or reported on MSN the likes of BBC…so it must be false after all eh.

I’ll mention to my mate that you think he is dumb enough to believe it btw…
Very brave accusation even I would not like to tangle with him.:thinking:

What are you on about?
I fully accept that traffickers make videos. Your mate is correct. No argument.
Clear?

If anyone thinks that those adverts will be fully accurate, telling of exactly what is and isn’t available to asylum seekers irregular migrants etc? They are fools.
Clear?

NO. I have not said the adverts are not being made.
And they were reported on the BBC ten years ago. They are nothing new. The Facebook smugglers selling the dream of Europe - BBC News

Yeah ‘‘clear’’ but not in the way you mean.

It’s ‘‘clear’’ that all the things reportedly listed in the ‘adverts’ are accurate,…ie everything free from food and 4 star accomodation, medical and dental services, pocket money, bicycles,.excursions et all.
Jeez it sounds like an holiday advert for Club Tropicana…‘‘drinks are free, fun and sunshine there’s enough for every one’’ …ok maybe not the sunshine.

It’s ‘‘clear’’ you still subscribe to the official line b/s that there is no extra incentive to come here than France.

It’s ‘‘clear’’ that you are still in delusional denial..

Thats’ what is…‘‘Clear’’ to me mate.
:roll_eyes:

@Stuar and @cooper1203

they are done in their native countries,

you know this thing called AI? chatgpt and the like. you can just ask it questions and you might even learn something

and what is chat gpt??? go on oh wise one explain to me how it works.

as to checks being done in nigeria…
Record keeping in Nigeria is generally considered to be below average, particularly in government and some educational institutions. There are widespread issues with the quality, accessibility, and management of records across various sectors.

that was done with google in 0.5 seconds you might want to check things before you run your mouth. It also assumes they gave their genuine details.

oh and incidently any dbs needs to be done in this country by the company you are working for. I could have done one yesterday for company x and then go work for company y next week and would need a new check

for the non deluded

glad to see that someone has found away of supplementing their pension after they lost a load because of trump