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OUT OF HOURS BULLY'S TRUCKSTOP BAR (INTERACTIVE)
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All NHS hospitals have NHS management.

Some private hospitals have private and NHS management.

Having NHS management does not mean that a hospital must also be private.

Giving an example of a hospital that may be both NHS and private, does not prove that Broomfield is private. Royal Brompton might be such an example that they can exist. It says nothing about Broomfield.

If you cannot show that the Broomfield is private, I will continue to assume that it is not private.
We certainly have some evidence that it is NHS. It tells us it is NHS!
So far we have no evidence I can see that it is also part private.

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will you except it if i ■■■■■■■ take you there…christ on a bike… i have shown you and shown you and shown you. belive what you want anyone with a brain cell can see its a private hospital. all because you wont except starmer is as thick as two short planks.

the point is the royal brompton is where people like royalty go. anyone that knows anything about london knows that. However because they also do cancer treatments for st thomas and guys just like broomfield specalises in burns they both have to put up an nhs sign. As anyone with a reading age of 4 would of understood by now and as you have discovered yourself which is why your making such a fuss and pretending you dont understand that just because it says its an nhs hospital because it specalises in something doesnt mean it isnt private.

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You are repeatedly talking about Royal Brompton. I don’t know why.
That has zilch to do with the two NHS hospitals in Badenoch’s constituency.

And nothing from you about the doggy issue being not approved.

So far as I can see it is within the rules. Maybe the rules should be changed I agree.

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Oh deary me Badenoch got wrong with how many hospitals are in her constituency.

Meanwhile as such an issue appears to be causing so much angst and tittle tattle here on Trucknet, Israel has just bombed Iran🤔.

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All started i(n the HoC) by Badenoch attempting to score points from Starmer. He said there were two Hospitals in her constituency. With a cheesy grin she “corrected” him. But got it wrong. Not the end of the world if she can’t add up to two, I doubt she will rise to a position where it will affect the Government of the UK.
I did want to make the point that the media are ignoring that gaff when it jumps on other gaffs from non-Tories.
Now we have @cooper1203 talking about private hospitals many miles away.

If you want to talk about Israel /Iran? Carry on.
I expect others will too.

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Strangeley enough, I do have the ability to read posts.

That’s so very kind of you.

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so do the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority for the second time.

oh and while we are on the subject compairing the expenses of one of the more senior roles of reform (chief whip) to some junior deputy whips fiddled expenses is like comparing the cfo’s expences with a line managers

i notice there was no comment about my offer to take you to the flipping hospital and show you it was private. maybe because you know the same as everyone else that has read this its private. You cant twist it so your banging on and on and on about show me i refuse to except any evidence.

A PRIVATE HOSPITAL HAS TO DISPLAY A NHS SIGN ON ALL COMMUNICATIONS IF IT DOES ANY WORK FOR THE NHS ON A PERMANENT BASIS. THE BLOODY PLACE IS A BURNS SPECIALIST THAT IS WHY THEY SHOW THE NHS LOGO

Got it???
have we got it
are you sure
read it again… no better yet get your great grandson to read it to ya he could understand it

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So your earlier comment…

…is bollox. No one has said it is not allowed.

OK.
And full NHS Hospitals obviously display NHS logos etc.
So having an NHS log is not proof positive it is NHS. OK.

So what evidence is there it is private? That is what I am asking.
The www site says it is part of the NHS trust. It is manged by an NHS trust.

A building contractor replacing RACC describes working with the NHS.
"Ryan Liversage, Area Director for Morgan Sindall Construction in Essex, commented: “It’s been a pleasure to work closely with Mid and South Essex NHS Foundationhttps://www.construction.co.uk/construction-news/319814/morgan-sindall-completes-refurb-at-broomfield-hospital Trust to deliver the necessary upgrades to facilities in Broomfield Hospital.”

If it has a specialism in burns? Fine. That proves nothing that I can see.
Lots of NHS hospitals have different areas of expertise.

Thank you, but no thanks.

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i just edited the post because i know you would be too thick to understand plain english

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see this is why i edited it.
As you clearly realise as you have qouted the comment the auditors didnt agree hence my comment that the ipsa didnt agree.

what is bollox is this bit,

as

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Being a whip is related to party duties. Any office expenses should come from party funds not HoC funds.

The expenses I put up earlier were clearly labelled as “Accommodation”

Do chief whips need different accommodation to ordinary MPs? I think not.
Even if they did, that is down to the party. Claiming for that certainly would be outside the rules.

And you use the word “fiddled”. No one I can see has said any “fiddling” was done.

OK. Where do the IPSA say the claim is not allowed?

IQuote:
“Ipsa told The Times it agreed to fund the pet rent surcharge for Ms Owatemi, but “gave incorrect advice as to how it should be described”. We have apologised directly to the MP and are sorry for any confusion,” the parliamentary watchdog added.”

That is not IPSA saying it is wrong.

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caught with your hand in the cookie jar accusing others of lying… no appolagie no oh ■■■■ my bad… why am i not surprised.

i wouldnt worry your little head about it all. starmer wont do anything your mates will be fine they can still come over and abuse children

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The utter contempt this pr1ck has for us.

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Yeah I heard about that absolute tool.:joy:
So the official narrative now has gone from '‘Doctors, solicitors,.and scientists’ ,.to ‘‘Women, children and Babies’’.
I know these Lefties by nature are deluded,.easily led and gullible, but this prick takes it to another dimension.:flushed_face:
I wonder how long it will be until this b/s is repeated on this forum as an argument by somebody ? :joy::joy:

I’ll need to keep my daughters and young grandaughter in the picture..
I’ve been warning them of foreign low life scrotes and rapists, looks like they will need to look out for marauding women running havoc with buggies and pushchairs instead😂
Good old Labour eh…as out of touch as ever.

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this would be funny if it wasnt so serious.
the day starmer makes his speech about how wonderful everything is going and how none had crossed the channel this month as if that meant anything.. 400 illegals cross the channel the majority of them before he made the speech.

in the last 3 days 1371 have come over with 919 coming yesterday. mean while our 540+ million is well spent with the police standing on the beach as they WALK past them taking the occasional video. The polices excuse why they didnt stop them was “well we cant throw grenades at them what more do you want us to do.” well here is an answer how about arresting them as they walk past you you snail eating useless peasant.

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So according to a poll only 16% approve of Starmer and his government…(I’m surprised it is that many tbh? :joy: )

Ok, I’ve never relied on the authenticity of polls, but if that is true after less than a year it is shocking…
(although not surprising.)
Anybody on here going to admit to being one of those 16% and tell us this govt is doing a good job so far?

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True enough.
It took Johnson 3 years to get to similar (18%) approval ratings.
Truss managed lower in a few days of course.

If there was an election tomorrow then Labour would be in trouble.
But there isn’ t going to be one.

If this turns out to be short term hardship for a better future then the more realistic voters will re-elect Labour. If the economy is looking bad in 4 years from now then then it will be someone else in Downing St.

“A week is a along time in politics” … 4 years is a lifetime.

(or 100 lettuce lifetimes :wink:)

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I was actually with you there until that bit.:grin:
You knew as soon as you posted that you were bound to get a reaction.
My first reaction was to laugh out loud at that one.
:joy:

Well I reckon for starters they have the Moslem vote boxed off, their new primary target audience, after alienating most of their traditional one, the working class…or ‘The Far Right’’ as they are now known.

Then they are going to gain new votes, from their purposely imported future votes from the third world whom they have suitably ‘charmed’…, the new (purposely built) home owners and new Brit citizens,
You obviously know the ones I mean.

I know a lot of people who voted for them for all reasons, the life long Labour voters, (some from my own family in fact) the ones who voted for them because Starmer conned them, and the ones who voted purely because they were (quite rightly) sick of the Tories.

This is not me making this up, I can honestly say I have not heard ONE of those I know personally, saying they are doing a good job, but they ALL have said they won’t vote for them again…even the old people, the long term voters.

So yet again…I see and hear what is going on around ME so I decide to disagree.

Whether you like it or not, normal everyday people (not racists or bigots, not far 'kin right, just normal people) their MAIN gripe is illegal immigration and the virtual inundation of foreign and primitive culture young men into their local communities playing havoc with …everything.
Classic example NI…stay tuned to see it all kick off over here in different ways.

All that will be done in terms of what they see as ‘‘processsing’’ these scum bags, will be allowing them to stay here, taking the problem to the next level…mark my words.

Then the economy, Rachel Reeves (who is about as good at accounting and figures as me) despite the spin is making a complete balls up,.
Entrepeneurs, business men and potentisl investors have verified this on radio news shows, before you accuse me of listening to opposing MPs and not all biased news shows, either.
You can refute, protest and bluster all you like, whilst the country heads towards ruin,.with the likes of the professional moron Ed Milliband, so don’t come back with obtuseness, stupid questions, and the pretence of not knowing wtf I am on about, and asking me for links graphs and ‘‘proof’’ …instead just relax, sit back and observe …(and come back to me in the unlikely event of you admitting you were wrong.) or do what I did when I voted Tory…admit I was wrong then, insread of trying to save face by misguided pretence of alligiance.

You know what after saying that?
The most ironic thing is with me having NO ridiculous blind alliegance to ANY political party or political agenda, I would LOVE for the sake of my country, for this Labour government to be a success, but if the last (or first) year is anything to go by (and please no 'black hole b/s :roll_eyes:) I won’t be paying a visit to the bookies hoping to fund my future retirement.

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Seems the penny has finally dropped with Starmer. Get the popcorn ready for this one.

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Nothing wrong with U turns and actually listening to the will of the people…but I bet it sure as hell goes against the grain and his principles.:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: