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The ones who are not UK citizens? And are not likely to become UK citizens before the next election?

Almost true. Immigration and asylum is currently a major issue.
The economy is normally more important to voters than immigration, but currently immigration is higher up the chart than normal. About level with the economy.
Anyone would think the media was pushing summat to take voters minds off of the economy where Tories have a poor record, and health where they have an awful record, to push the idea that all the problems of the world can be cured by demonising some foreigners.

I find it bizarre that more people say are concerned about immigration above health.

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And there it is, …the politician’s tactic in fact (unsurprisingly with you) ..
Take the impact off the main awkward and embarrasing (for you) point, by focusing on ‘‘The Tories’’ …ironically of whom I have already stated and admitted after voting for them that they also ■■■■ ed up… so why bother ?

Then we have the socialist agenda pushed and displayed, by playing down the point in focus, which just happens to be illegal immigration, (which is in the lefty’s DNA to put up with and happilly accept.)
So a double whammy.:joy:
And this is exactly why I find it hard to take you serious.

Oh yeah and this one.

Bizzare or convenient?

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he was going to do it before then at the last possible moment before the easter break they said they werent.

clearly him and his mates have had a chance to dispose of the evidence and lock up a few victims for being far right

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what media coverage the little there is is always an after thought. a few cryptic stats thrown in amongst waffle about how they are smashing the gangs or mentioned as an aside weeks later . Anything else that does report the facts as facts is dismissed by you as karen off face ache.

i posted figgures of the last 2 years of growth the other day labour are worse but if you want more historic figures.
1997 it was at 4.92% growth. 2009 it had shrunk 4.62% with a gradual decline in the years between despite all their coffee shops and hospitality bs. Conservatives got in 2010 and apart from 2020 have grown the economy year on year until covid (2020) we then had a boost (back to work) 2021 but the growth hit 8.58% highest in over 40 years. In 2022 we had 4.42% nearly back to the levels of the last conservative gov in 97. in 2023 we had a small amount of growth even with all the brexit whingers that were too thick to modify their business slightly.

i have posted this before as well
in sept 23 the highest level there were 7.8 million on he waiting list may 24 there were 7,4 million a decrease of 400,000.
same period under starmer…
New data published today shows that the NHS waiting list has fallen to 7.39 million, down from 7.42 million
first time it has dropped below 7.4

so he has managed 100,000 off the list in 11 months compared to 400,000 in 8 months. despite bunging the nhs 20 billion on top of all the other bailouts they have been given by this shower. I almost forgot the scanner that went to a private hospital.

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It’s just been shown on news summary of week.

First clip he says…
‘No more enquiries for MPs jumping on the bandwagon of the…far right’’ :roll_eyes:

Next one …It’s what the right thinking MP’s wanted.:joy::joy:
(Paraphrase btw)

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that must be why someone was questing who called people far right the other day.

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Emma reynolds (economic sectary to the treasury.. nah me neither.) has been interviewed about starmers latest u-turn.

so first off starmer didnt realise how bad it was… he was the first to prosecute a gang.
starmer in jan called it far right… it was the conservatives fault for politicizing it
starmer and others on here in jan said we had the alexis jay report and didnt need another one… oh there may be holes in it in certain areas.
lucy powel and others on here called it dog whistle politics… its the conservatives fault they did nothing we have cherry picked a couple of the findings from alexis jay report. (made it easier for the pedos and harder for the population)
why have they decided now??? oh well the barroness cassy report is due out today. oh right… so no one has seen it… too bad you have been quoting from it ducky.

the truth about all this is they have had a chance to cover the arses by had picking a few areas that have over 800 cases between them and im sure its nothing to do with reform saying that they have reached their funding target and are going to do their own investigation.

are any of these victims going to get an apology from starmer… nope true to their ilk its everyone elses fault.

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a school child has been bullied by his school masters and put in detention for telling a racist joke. where did he hear the joke in the book charlie and the great glass elevator written by Roald Dahl in 1971 he got from the school library for a reading assignment. When challenged the school first tried to change the joke to make it racist and when challenged further couldnt explain why it was racist.

The father pointed out that his son was bullied directly because of his name and the school had refused to do anything about it just sweeping it under the carpet saying they were joking. He also pointed out that they were a catholic family and the teachers regularly blasphemed saying jesus christ etc. When his son pointed this out he was told he was just being thick.

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It’s like everything else mate…,
If I make a mistake, or I have an argument and shown to be wrong I’ll.willinglly hold my hands up and admit…
‘‘Sorry I was wrong’’.

These Lefty ■■■■ s are incapable of that, instead they just carry on blagging it, making excuses (usually involving the previous govt) and digging a deeper hole making themselves look bloody stupid.

As for the ‘‘Far Right’’ bollock5,… it’s like H&S in our job, if you question something (that is usually bloody futile and ridiculous) they stifle the argument into a conversational cul de sac shouting…’
‘‘Health and Safety’’,
These clowns, (particularly Starmer) do the same shouting ‘‘Far Right’’ . (Or on a good day ..‘‘Racist’’ :roll_eyes:)

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excuse the face ache link but it hasnt hit the msm yet that i can find. and before anyone throws the karen off of face ache comment to get out of the uncomfortable truth this is chris philp the current shadow home sectary and previously the minister of state for crime policing and fire. from oct 22.

The police race action plan.

for those that cant see it. the action plan says that the police must artificially engineer the same rate of criminal justice outcomes across different racial groups even if those different racial groups have different levels of offending. It is explicit it says that the police should not treat people the same biased on the colour of their skin and that its ok to treat people differently.

so what or good i hear the cry from certain people. well here is my answer so you dont have to bother…

conveniently as this report comes out the baroness cassy report comes out the same day. As said on my post about it earlier labour have announced a report into child abuse gangs thats handy isnt it. now the police can only arrest the same amount of pakistanis and muslims of other colours as whites. Then you can all shout see its the whites that are doing it… your all nazis, racist, far right the next time starmer drops a bollock.

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Waiting in anticipation for a response from franglais given the verbal diarrhea spewing out of his mouth in previous posts on this very topic, Andrex franglais…? wipe your chin you talk 5h1te.

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as i said earlier … it wont mean a thing now the same number of each ethnic group needs to be arrested/charged for each group of crimes.

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:joy::joy:

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Could it get any worse, how am i going to get a bus or a Hackney, o wait the Palestinians are on there way, thank god for that

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I did read somewhere that the pakistani government were lobbying the uk one to allow them to refuse flights on behalf of pakistan airways so they could bring the child abusers to justice but starmer et al refused on safety grounds.

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The predominantly moslem and Pakistani r4pe gangs..

Right lets get the inevitables in first from the bed wetters before they do about…
(Tommy Robinson aka Yaxley Lennon.)

It’s usually …

‘‘He’s a convicted criminal’’…
followed by a list.

‘‘He’s far right’’…
He must be,.Starmer says so.

‘‘He’s racist’’…
Because he dares to speak out about a Moslem threat…(musn’t bad mouth the Moslems when they show anything derogatory us, or you are a racist,…rather than in reality a concerned realist)

‘‘He’s this, he’s that’ he’s the other’’

‘‘I aint even going to bother watching it..’’..

Yep…I think thats covered it and saved them some time. :grin:

Well ok don’t watch it I couldn’t care less.
But if you do, firstly you take your blinkers off, fingers out of lugs, open your closed mind for a second,.and if it’s easier for you, just take personalities and faces out of the equation, pretend it aint him.

Then listen to the actual WORDS and tell me what he has said that can be interpreted as a lie, or is simply not true.

Personally as a personality I aint too keen, he comes under for me as. stereotype ‘‘gobby southerner’’,
But I can not help myself agreeing with much of what he says, I’m a realist, I see much of what he says with my own eyes…so how can I disagree even if I wanted to?

And as for the Police…
It seems that publicity for promoting ‘‘Diversity’’ takes precedence over our kids being ■■■■■■■■ violated. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

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I confidently predict that in 500 years, IF we can halt this inexorable slide into the morass and IF there’s still a Britain that Tommy Robinson will be lauded and schools will teach that he was one of Britains greatest patriots ranking alongside Boudicca and Churchill.

The fact that the chattering classes will curl their weak lips at the mere mention of his name tells me everything I need to know of their calibre.

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As I’ve said before about anything or anybody the limp wristed bed wetting Lefties criticise, lambast, deride or write off with one of their usual labels, it tells me and confirms that whatever it is…is right.:thinking:

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Interesting perspective from someone on Facetube. I fact checked it for the undie wetters and it definitely wasn’t Karen, but some bloke called Michael.

Labour has done it again managed to decimate an entire industry with the same smug, sanctimonious idiocy that’s now their party’s calling card. Ed Miliband, the human embodiment of a broken thermostat, has declared war on the UK’s oil and gas sector, cheerfully waving his Net Zero placard while thousands of jobs vanish into thin ideological air. Let’s be absolutely clear: this isn’t environmentalism. It’s economic arson. Labour has hiked the windfall tax on oil and gas firms to a choking 38%, with plans to keep it until 2030 long after the patient has flatlined and the last rig worker’s P45 has been printed. And all for what? To make Britain more “ethical” while we import gas from Qatar and Norway. Genius. We’re now morally pure just colder, poorer, and unemployed. Miliband has banned new North Sea drilling, meaning we won’t even be allowed to tap our own resources while the lights go out. Instead, he’s flinging half a billion quid at “hydrogen innovation” in some fever dream where the UK is powered by fairy dust and hashtags. He promises it’ll “secure homegrown energy” a rich claim from a man who’s just slammed the door on the last viable domestic energy source we had. Meanwhile Rachel Reeves, economic saboteur-in-chief, upped the tax and applauded herself for doing it. The same Reeves who whinges about growth while systematically strangling it. You can’t tax your way into prosperity any more than you can ban drilling and pretend you’ve found a new energy supply. But Labour excels at fantasy. It’s all targets, transitions, and utopian nonsense while real people lose real jobs in real towns. The result? A hollowed-out energy sector, soaring bills, strategic dependence on foreign gas, and unemployment across Scotland and the North East. But don’t worry Ed’s got a hydrogen plan and a slide deck. Rachel’s got her head in a spreadsheet. And Starmer’s still checking which way the wind’s blowing. Labour isn’t transforming the economy. They’re torching it. One industry, one job, one pathetic press release at a time.

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More straight talking and common sense from Matt Goodwin.

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