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It doesn’t sound like the media were allowed inside the building where the meeting was.
BBC Chris Mason was updating the newsroom but no live coverage to where he was?

Really? Where is that is the fishing deal you are upset about?
Maybe you liked the old fishing deal? The one that resulted in the UK actually landing more fish? Sounds good???
More fish for less money. Since Brexit the UK fisheries have worked more for less reward. Chuffing marvellous deal wasn’t it?

Most UK fish is sold into the EU…They want what our fishers produce.
We are on a physical island, but we are not an economic island. Our fishers sell to the EU the EU for more money than they sell to the UK.

Yes. We voted to have no say in what is our biggest market….MAD !
These are the totally predictable consequences.

And so what?
Totally normal I reckon.

In order to speak freely without looking over one’s shoulder all the time it is normal to speak in private. There may well be photo ops before and after talks, and the finished deals are all publicly available, but the wrangling is not done in public.

I’m might be going mad but I’m sure i used to see trailers in Europe years ago that transported live fish but not in a refrigerated (Frozen) trailer but a rather odd a set up with pipes hanging out of it and a noisy engine, were the fish actually inside the water tanks onboard?

Tell all that crap to the UK fishermen then…I don’t hear them agreeing with your views.
But I am confident that you are sat safe in the knowledge that you even (think you) know better than them.
Like I said…creaming your kecks.

So what about the new deal is “selling out” the fishers?

West Country fishers in 2024 Why Devon and Cornwall fishermen feel disillusioned after Brexit

Ask the fishermen…they seeminglly have plenty to say about it on the news…none of it good.
I would prefer to listen to their qualified views than some pro EU fanboy.

I aint going to indulge you in your pathetic showboating in your wannabe politician mode.

Yes. Viviers and others. Live shellfish.

You said it was a “sellout” so I asked you, what you meant. Is that so hard?
So tell us why ? Or just admit that you gobbed off without having a clue,

Maybe it is a sell-out? Maybe it is great? I certainly do not know.

That’s the one.

They had a red line across freedom of movement, no way was that happening
Eu says what if we change the name stammer says great idea let’s do it
But can we use eu channel at airports

The fishermen say it’s a sell out in the news…is that so hard ..you condescending prick.
12 years of fishing in our waters when the last agreement was much less…so less to fish for them.
Selling out.

You are rifght ..you do not know.
So stop gobbing off trying to convince us (and yourself) that you do.
Jeez H man :roll_eyes:

The tv chef Rick Stein has done some interesting documentaries about food nationwide and there were lorries from all over Europe loading the fish that has just been landed in ports all over the UK.

Hardly anything going directly to a regional distribution centre for the major supermarkets or fish processing factories.

Exactly so I am asking you !
You have decided it is a sell out …You said it is a sellout why?

You did not say the fishers are saying it is a sell-out you said it is a sell-out why?

If you have listened to the fishers and they say why it is bad,what do you agree with them about?

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You need to watch your deliberate obtuseness for effect mate, it is backfiring on you to the point of you coming across as being a bit thick and slow on the uptake.

I have already said to you that fishermen…
(btw is 'FISHERS 'your latest lefty pc term you are complying to?:roll_eyes:)
have stated on the news that they have been sold out…that is good enough for me to believe them and especially when the EU and Starmer are involved.
Here ya go you love your links, here’s one for you.

So you are just taking what someone says at face value? One side of an argument?
No surprise at all.
Fishers are like farmers. and lorry drivers, and loads of other groups, that always want more and some will always be moaning.

For myself, I will be listening to different points of view before commenting on whether or not it is a “sell-out”, or a bit crap, or a bit OK, or wonderful. I doubt anyone will be saying the last!

Well, that is honest.
Closed mind in evidence.