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As far as Starmer is concerned if you are working class with contrary views to his…you are far right end of

Same with the deluded bed wetters if you are against illegal immigration and hate the fact they are catered for every need in a 4 star hotel, at our expense,.when our own people are homeless, you are racist…
Oh yeah and misinformed, cos they aint in fact illegal they are irregular, and they aint in 4 star hotels but hostels…I’ve been listening you know.:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

Ffs man there is a guy on here completely wasting his time trying to educate us ‘‘irrelavants’’ :joy:

hence my comment about them finding out what real far right is

I feel sure you must have very wide shoulders. They need to be to carry all of those chips.

I said that the lack of knowledge of motivation is irrelevant.
If I was referring to the people (plural) rather than the knowledge of motivation (singular) I would have used are rather than is.

But never mind! :grinning: Now I have given an explanation, you can now get all upset about me talking down to you.

Not everyone realises this. But some do
How does it go…???
Deal with it!

Ah well so long as you are not making posts throwing insults around.

Sorry I took it as some kind of threat (yeah I know, a tic one) that was my point.

no it wasnt a threat from me… the issue is that they dont grasp is in history the real far right have dealt with sympathisers of their target as equally as harshly if not more so as the targeted population.

Tbf I have no chips

Ya know what mate, it aint important to me admitting I could be wrong, no point in digging holes for myself to try and save face, and I’m man enough to apologise,.so if picked you up wrong…yeah I apologise.

Well you got that bit wrong eh?
And btw …YOU could NEVER ’ upset’ me.
Annoy me, irritate me,.even offend me…but upset me? :joy:…Nah.

Ooh I am, but not by regret or coming to the conclusion I was wrong on Brexit…Never,.despite how much things have been engineered to try snd make us that way.

Observations of analysis rather than insults mate.

Yep good point.
Looks likr I picked somebody else up wrong.
I’m on a roll.:joy:

They are offered so much in France, that they prefer the risk of drowning crossing the Channel, to get what’s on offer here.Only Socialism would expect anyone to believe that.

And what do they get here? show me the proof

So why not stay in France then? Staying in France does not involve them paying money to get in a dinghy nor risking death by drowning in the channel.

Ah yes your links and “facts” that could in no way be skewed or corrupt and fed to gullible people like you.

In a real world terms, where is the logic in getting in a boat and crossing the channel where death from drowning is a very real possibility? This from the POV that you are in already in a safe country that apparently gives more than us.

Mainly friends, family and being able to speak english? and sold false promises?

So if they have friends and family here why arrive with no forms of ID to prove this? Surely that would speed up their claim or more importantly increase their chances of being accepted.

As for speaking English, most of mainland Europe including France speak English so it’s not like they are alienating themselves with no form of communication.

My late father, a refugee, came to UK in 1956 because he could speak English, his other languages where Russian and native Hungarian, i don’t think he wanted to go to Russia

Ok that one is an old favourite…and I aint buying it.
Let’s start with accomodation..

Do the French feed and clothe them, give them a phone, and put them up in luxury hotels that are closed off purposely to cater for their every need.
Supply entrrtainment, bicycles, travel passes, private health, and dentistry, 3 meals a day …all paid for by the French taxpayer? …
Because that is what the UK does, all of the above.
Check out you tube…is it Red Rose, or White Rose,.where they visit these hoteld all over the country.

Franglais tried to be clever on this, by trying to rubbish it all previously, until I shot him down in flames.
I have actually been in one of those hotels in an ‘undercover’ capacity…(Ok I’m building my part here …but I did wear my sunglasses :joy: )

A mate who was on security, gave me a black jacket, and a lanyard, and I passed off as security while he showed me around…I was even offered a job ffs :flushed_face:

He has since left on a more…‘‘adventurous’’ security gig abroad, so no comeback on him,.although I knoew for a fact he wouldn’t gaf anyway.

Anyhoo the answer to those above points is a resounding …NO.
No 4 star hotels in an ‘‘all inclusive’’ capacity…just a tent, …and I aint even sure if they are supplied either.
Incentive is the key word.
Cut that incentive off and it cuts out the ‘’‘need’’ to come here.

As for your Dad I would asume he was a genuine refugee,.the tyoe of whom I have no problem with…
The majority of these young guys ate not.
They are opportunist economic migrants heading for the land of milk and honey…not a safe country, they have already left at least one…France.
As for your link…no they do not HAVE to stsy in the first dafe country.
Bit why make a perilous journey,.a costly one to boot, to an island if the benefits on the mainland are the same?
Because they soeak English?
Nah, so do most of Europe.

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But why do they arrive with no forms of ID or who they are if they have family and friends here? Hence why we have to put them up in 4 star hotels at our expense while we try and figure out who the hell they are are.

Yep, all of this is so true and logical. No amount of propaganda will ever convince me that they get more in France or other European countries than we offer.

The one question that is never answered when put to them is why they risk their lives in a dinghy when they supposedly have everything and more in mainland Europe. It is basic common sense.

Also included in the dinghy package is the free legal aid, glasses, prescriptions, and a £300 maternity grant.

Some councils offer free football tickets, circus act training skills courses, barista classes, driving lessons and DJ training.

One council spent 121 million on such nonsense.