No it won’t. There are pubs with unisex toilets already. I’ve yet to witness any kind of problem with trans females using the ladies loos.
To be fair, Rob, he was countering MY claim that it was the other way round. 
My take on it is this:
Thinking that you should probably have been a girl is a life-long experience for a trans-female.
Knowing that you are biologically a male is also a life-long experience for a trans-female.
This is a paradox.
If you accept that paradox, it is possible to live in peace as a woman without surgery etc.
Someone living in peace will drift in and of pub toilets for decades without harming a soul.
unless you go into ladies toilets on a regular basis how would you
I have mistakenly walked into a ladies toilet (well opened the door and realised it wasnt a mens) on holiday. trust me there is an issue. I have also seen men stood outside the toilets asking a lady to go check on their daughter and vise versa.
and how many women or even men for that matter are comfortable of going in there when there is someone of the opposite sex in there. I suspect those with unisex toilets are also frequented by those that go to the pubs and clubs with clientele of that ilk.
who ever said anything about living as a woman. I dont know where you got thousands of pounds from either. I could probably buy a bra some make up and a blouse for 30 quid. The 18" of beard might be an issue though.
Precisely!
after i posted that i did think maybe you were female. sorry
Unisex toilets have cubicles instead of urinals so they are private. Like the ladies loos are. Many offices, schools and places of work have these.
The only issue is that these take up a bit more space than loos with urinals.
It does matter a bit, but IMHO is not an insurmountable cost.
A shared hand washing space with private cubicles is not so bad is it?
after i posted that i did think maybe you were female. sorry
Thank you. In return for that note of respect, I can be honest with you and say that in five-and-a-half years of using female toilets, I have never had anything but kindness, respect and dignity. People chat to me, want to help me with my hair. I am a trans-female person who accepts the paradox I mentioned up the page.
If I am forced to use the gents at kicking out time on a Saturday night at the age of 73, will I, I wonder, be treated with the same civility? In my own home town, yes; because everyone knows me. But elsewhere? There’s still a lot of prejudice out there. I never meet it. But shier mortals than me might.
im not sure what prejudice there is now or even what would count. However the days of “gay bashing” are over i think. Everyone has a right to walk around unmolested (verbally i mean) But unfortunately there are places that i would avoid out of self preservation the same as the next person. That has nothing to do with gender or appearance.
Absolutely! And that’s where years of street-wisdom accrued from driving heavy lorries to far-flung places kicks in 
Way I see it is this…
Firstly respect to you for coming out with that statement on here, whilst risking some kind of potential ridicule or abuse, when dealing with testosterone laden ‘‘alpha male type truckers’’…
(I was not aware of your situation although I do kinda remember now you (or somebody) going over something like this on here a while ago.)
I don’t know a lot about Trans issues, mainly as I aint concened from a ‘live and let live’’ perspective…so excuse my ignorance on the subject.
Is a trans person who has not undergone actual surgery the same as a transvestite? (not meant as an insult if that is how you take it btw.)
And I’m assuming that a trans person is also classed as ‘gay’…again mate genuine ignorance which I apologise for if it comes across as offensive…not meant to be.
Btw I call everybody ‘‘mate’’ even my Mrs.
We all have a place in society, people of all types need to be catered for, so would a combined trans/disabled toilet not suffice?
I do see the concern of women who are reluctant to share toilets, as it opens up all kinds of cans of worms…and I can not pretend I would be comfortable with my wife daughter and/or granddaughters sharing a commmunal changing room with a biological man, and I would imagine it is the same with most protective type blokes tbh.
I aint got a lot of experience in this subject,.like because as I said I aint bothered.
I have met a ‘famous’ trans guy, who I rightly or wrongly had down as a transvestite…‘‘famous’’ (or infamous😄) on the European side of the job… Spanish Bob’ who drove for Ewals CC out of Zeebrugge.
I also met a driver whilst loading one day, who was obviously male in full make up, and who was getting a lot of behind the back’ sniggering.
I just said ‘‘Alright mate’’ as I would any driver, and he looked at me with a type of surprise and even virtual ‘‘gratitude’’ because I or someone acknowledged him.
It’s all too easy to take the pi55, but I can only imagine the trauma when somebody looks like say…me for instance, who would never pass as a woman in a million years…, but to all intents and purposes in their own heads feels just like a woman.
Most guys I have seen tend to draw attention by over dressing rather than keeping the level down…crop tops and mini skirts rather than something more conservative…again no offence, just an observation.
I would imagine most just want to be left alone to live their lives, and all this publicity has just raised unwanted attention…thanks to the interfering self appointed lefty ‘‘spokespersons’’.
Yep I get that.
Just his self righteous and apologist stance presses my buttons.
Thank you. I actually came out on here in Jan 2020 when I changed to Rowena (or Ro). As you say, some vaguely remember it which is why I end up being called all sorts of names (like Les 
).
I have no axe to grind either way in the whole Trans debate. I’m a fan of live and let live. I get a little concerned when any group asks for special treatment though as I believe we are all equal regardless. I understand the demand though if a group feels undermined. I just don’t think that special treatment should be afforded to any group as that just breeds resentment.
I believe that any individual has the right to choose what they want to be, I don’t believe that anyone should be castigated for their beliefs nor do I believe that anyone should be castigated for have opposing views.
We should always look for the humour in any situation. We’d all be happier that way….
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Two separate issues, but often overlap, so I don’t have a problem with people’s confusion there.
I teach ballet and sometimes call the girls ‘mate’
One of the sad realities of the trans world. I’m lucky in that I’m very small build, light voice etc; and because I’m old, it’s easier because you don’t have to dress as if you’re on the pull all the time
Huge difference between shared changing rooms and toilets because toilets have private cubicles. I’ve never had a flicker of a problem in loos all these years, but I won’t use communal changing areas in big clothes shops, for instance - I’d always use a cubicle instead. Common sense, really.
I’m getting the vibe now that you are winding me up.
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