dowahdiddyman:
When are these muppetsgoing to realise that every single thing they touch and buy arrived there by a lorry.
Bingo.
The more they slow us down, the higher our costs will be ultimately leading to higher prices in the shops. Then they really would moan. They’d get to the shops 5 minutes quicker but wouldn’t be able to afford anything 
lankyphil:
tachograph:
ajt:
I’d like to see a petition making it illegal to sit in the middle laneThere is one so sign it
Middle lane motorway driving use
Many drivers display a bad habit of staying in the middle lane of the motorway despite the lane to their left being clear and available. This forces drivers wishing to pass them into the outer overtaking lane. The middle lane is I understand an overtaking lane. I would like to see this become an offence so as to remind and force people to stay in the inner lane unless overtaking. This will ease congestion and make the motorways safer.
I thought the police were catching people for dangerous or inconsiderate driving or something similar for middle lane hogging? Or have the fairies been telling me stories again?
I’ve just looked on a police forum and some reckon they’ve done people for hogging lane 2 for careless driving, can’t honestly say I’ve ever seen the police bother about it though and I’ve seen police cars go past people hogging lane 2 plenty of times 
Terry T:
dowahdiddyman:
When are these muppetsgoing to realise that every single thing they touch and buy arrived there by a lorry.Bingo.
The more they slow us down, the higher our costs will be ultimately leading to higher prices in the shops. Then they really would moan. They’d get to the shops 5 minutes quicker but wouldn’t be able to afford anything
Erm, NO! Think what you mean was ‘the higher our costs will be ultimately leading to lower drivers wages’
ajt:
Rob K:
ajt:
The whole problem is limiters
The public don’t understand, if your overtaking you can’t go any faster.The “whole problem” is drivers with this train of thought…
Care to elaborate ?
If you have to ask, you wouldn’t like the answer 
I will do the job of the person who monitors this E-Petitions website.
For instance, anyone who cannot use a spell checker, or understand simple punctuation. I would delete most of the petitions, long before they hit the boards, If only to prevent even more stupid people voting on them!
Car safety hats for drivers and passengers
Responsible department: Department for Transport
2000 people are killed every year on our roads, and another 20,000 are seriously injured. This is a particularly common cause of death and serious disablement for younger people. This petition therefore calls for safety hats to be made compulsory for all car drivers and passengers. Cars are heavy-duty, high-speed machinery, and despite modern innovations such as seat belts and air bags, brain injuries are still a leading cause of death and injury. A study by the University of Adelaide has even shown that a simple bicycle-style helmet would cut brain injuries by 50% and save 1 in 5 crash victims. What are we waiting for?
Hiya…thinking back to why motorways was built…KEEP LORRIES OUT OF TOWNS no sod
could afford a car…lorry drivers had there lorry at home (units was used to do the shoipping)
every one worked a short walk (3to4 mile)from work. then joe sodding public started to buy
cars…the goverment built overspill towns with no train link…conclusion a complete Boll…ks up
A pal of mine has just bought his dream house… 2 hours drive from work what a pr…k
Afew years ago there was this bird on Steve wright (radio2) she lived in wigston(leicester)
her job was in Leeds i recon she was doing 1100 mile a week to and from work.
in her own car and paying her own fuel…
thats whats knackering the job up…
John
waynedl:
Terry T:
dowahdiddyman:
When are these muppetsgoing to realise that every single thing they touch and buy arrived there by a lorry.Bingo.
The more they slow us down, the higher our costs will be ultimately leading to higher prices in the shops. Then they really would moan. They’d get to the shops 5 minutes quicker but wouldn’t be able to afford anything
Erm, NO! Think what you mean was ‘the higher our costs will be ultimately leading to lower drivers wages’
Couldn’t agree more, drivers really should get out of this idea that because everything travels by road we have some kind of power … we don’t.
ajt:
Rob K:
ajt:
The whole problem is limiters
The public don’t understand, if your overtaking you can’t go any faster.The “whole problem” is drivers with this train of thought…
Care to elaborate ?
Are you for real? If you can’t see what the glaringly obvious problem is with what you wrote then I’m afraid there is hope for you.
A site many of you may find interesting and much better than these silly petitions because you can debate stuff is jolitics.com
rob22888:
Seriously, given how busy the roads are in this country compared to most of Europe the best course of action is for the government to opt out of the EU limiter rules so we can go up to 60 like our own laws permit and be able to complete overtaking manouvres in a timely manner so we can just get on with things. Also ban companies from limiting their vehicles to less than the national limit.
Few people bother to leave alittle in reserve to overtake so limiters set at 60mph would do ■■■■ all.
Saaamon:
rob22888:
Seriously, given how busy the roads are in this country compared to most of Europe the best course of action is for the government to opt out of the EU limiter rules so we can go up to 60 like our own laws permit and be able to complete overtaking manouvres in a timely manner so we can just get on with things. Also ban companies from limiting their vehicles to less than the national limit.Few people bother to leave alittle in reserve to overtake so limiters set at 60mph would do [zb] all.
Exactly! And that is basically the point I was making 2 posts above yours. Drivers are quick to blame speed limiters for all the problems but they should start looking closer to home for the real cause… 
Why have a limiter anyway…professional drivers will drive professionally, the others wont whatever the limit!!
Rob K:
Saaamon:
rob22888:
Seriously, given how busy the roads are in this country compared to most of Europe the best course of action is for the government to opt out of the EU limiter rules so we can go up to 60 like our own laws permit and be able to complete overtaking manouvres in a timely manner so we can just get on with things. Also ban companies from limiting their vehicles to less than the national limit.Few people bother to leave alittle in reserve to overtake so limiters set at 60mph would do [zb] all.
Exactly! And that is basically the point I was making 2 posts above yours. Drivers are quick to blame speed limiters for all the problems but they should start looking closer to home for the real cause…
Working to the best of your ability with the tools you have is the operative line your looking for
As i said, limiters are the restricting factor. I’m talking about the mathematics of them, NOT they should be banned, their a bad idea etc etc…
Take a car for example. If a car is stuck out there holding up traffic during a overtake or what ever, with the vehicle being unrestricted it has the powers to remove its self from the said situation by the way of accelerating. A lorry doesn’t have this luxury.
You can bleet on about timing it right, the over driver should slow down, you should do this and that etc etc and all this is true yes but the underling thorn in the side is the limiter at the end of the day…
If I’m being caught up with/overtaken by another wagon that’s only a klik or two faster than mine then I ease back a k or two off the cruise control & let them sail by & pull in safely,it probably costs me all of a couple of minutes a day,now what could I do with all that time?
Likewise when an empty or lighter loaded or simply just more powerful motor is alongside me when cresting a hill I ease back & let them past, it’s easy enough to pull out & pass them when back on the limit if speeds allow & much more proffesional & courteous than just keeping them out there for miles.
Lets start a petition to make all car drivers have lessons in using a slip road coming onto a motorway, instead of slamming on their brakes they might learn how to accelerate away from a truck and move into the lane. It could be a new code on their license and they would only be allowed on a motorway if they’ve had the training!!!
ajt:
Rob K:
Saaamon:
rob22888:
Seriously, given how busy the roads are in this country compared to most of Europe the best course of action is for the government to opt out of the EU limiter rules so we can go up to 60 like our own laws permit and be able to complete overtaking manouvres in a timely manner so we can just get on with things. Also ban companies from limiting their vehicles to less than the national limit.Few people bother to leave alittle in reserve to overtake so limiters set at 60mph would do [zb] all.
Exactly! And that is basically the point I was making 2 posts above yours. Drivers are quick to blame speed limiters for all the problems but they should start looking closer to home for the real cause…
Working to the best of your ability with the tools you have is the operative line your looking for
As i said, limiters are the restricting factor. I’m talking about the mathematics of them, NOT they should be banned, their a bad idea etc etc…
Take a car for example. If a car is stuck out there holding up traffic during a overtake or what ever, with the vehicle being unrestricted it has the powers to remove its self from the said situation by the way of accelerating. A lorry doesn’t have this luxury.
You can bleet on about timing it right, the over driver should slow down, you should do this and that etc etc and all this is true yes but the underling thorn in the side is the limiter at the end of the day…
That may well be the case, but arguing that “the public don’t understand we can’t go any faster” is ridiculous. You KNOW what the problem is and so should drive accordingly to prevent the problem from happening. However as per usual you will continue to blame it on everyone else: government, other driver should not overtake if he doesn’t have legs, other driver should ease off, etc etc yada yada yada.
Adam_Mc:
But the problem with delimiting trucks is then how many british trucks would do 60mph on foreign roads instead of 90kph?..we’d then earn the same tarnished reputation as the irish
And your problem is
ajt:
Take a car for example. If a car is stuck out there holding up traffic during a overtake or what ever, with the vehicle being unrestricted it has the powers to remove its self from the said situation by the way of accelerating. A lorry doesn’t have this luxury.
The car can remove itself, it is the drivers that have a problem with not being able to read the roads.
I had a speed limiter in 1989, five years before they were necessary. It was set at 50mph then, and drivers now complain of companies dropping their limited speed.
So timing is important too
ajt:
Working to the best of your ability with the tools you have is the operative line your looking forAs i said, limiters are the restricting factor. I’m talking about the mathematics of them, NOT they should be banned, their a bad idea etc etc…
Take a car for example. If a car is stuck out there holding up traffic during a overtake or what ever, with the vehicle being unrestricted it has the powers to remove its self from the said situation by the way of accelerating. A lorry doesn’t have this luxury.
You can bleet on about timing it right, the over driver should slow down, you should do this and that etc etc and all this is true yes but the underling thorn in the side is the limiter at the end of the day…
No its the drivers fault, whats that famous phrase… a bad workman blah bah blah 
you decide whether to overtake, if you know you are only 0.5mph faster why bother overtaking? its not compulsory to have your truck on the limit when driving on the motorway.
bubsy06:
ajt:
Working to the best of your ability with the tools you have is the operative line your looking forAs i said, limiters are the restricting factor. I’m talking about the mathematics of them, NOT they should be banned, their a bad idea etc etc…
Take a car for example. If a car is stuck out there holding up traffic during a overtake or what ever, with the vehicle being unrestricted it has the powers to remove its self from the said situation by the way of accelerating. A lorry doesn’t have this luxury.
You can bleet on about timing it right, the over driver should slow down, you should do this and that etc etc and all this is true yes but the underling thorn in the side is the limiter at the end of the day…
No its the drivers fault, whats that famous phrase… a bad workman blah bah blah
you decide whether to overtake, if you know you are only 0.5mph faster why bother overtaking? its not compulsory to have your truck on the limit when driving on the motorway.
Sadly the vast majority of drivers are unable to compute this in their thick heads. (and yes I’m guilty of it in my early days of driving before I saw the light).
