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A policeman out looking for proper criminals would be a start. There are enough of those to be getting on with without valuable Police manpower being wasted on targeting offenders whose only potential victims are themselves, and even this being a blindingly minuscule possibility.
the police dont make the law, they merely uphold the law as made by others, its illegal to not wear a seatbelt so therefore a criminal act has taken place and when your booked a crime has been solved which helps the polices figures
No it doesn’t - Failing to wear a seatbelt is not a “recordable” crime so neither the offence nor the detection appear in the crime figures.
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A policeman out looking for proper criminals would be a start. There are enough of those to be getting on with without valuable Police manpower being wasted on targeting offenders whose only potential victims are themselves, and even this being a blindingly minuscule possibility.
Only victim is himself? A driver that used to work for us hit a road marker post a couple of years ago. He wasn’t full weight but he would have been around 36 ton, fairly heavy anyway. The resulting jolt sent him over to the passenger side and left his loaded truck heading up a 2 lane road, on all wheels, at 70k or whatever speed with no driver. He was very lucky. The truck slipped into the verge and lay against a bank. BUT, would you fancy your wife and kids meeting a loaded artic at 70k with no one behind the wheel? If he had 2 pints and drive the 50 yards down the road would that be ok? Sure it’s only a short distance?
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I’d get the right hump if i was drunk and talking on the phone one day, then got pulled, it’s just not my fault is it
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People having no seat belt on can lead to other crimes no insurance warrant out arrest etc.
Kerbdog:
Ah got it now, you don’t have to wear a seat belt driving between drops of 50 METRES or less !!! Don’t know where the hell that would be !!!
To be honest though I’ve said it before. A freind of ours was told by police he would be dead if he’d have been wearing a seatbelt in his truck. As it was he was thrown clear of the truck and survived with multiple injuries, but recovered. If you are in a truck and you are the single occupant, it should be at your discression.
my life, my choice! it will be over one day whether i wear a seatbelt or not so it wont really save a life, it merely prolongs the end of a life which will enable them to get tax from you for a bit longer
Some older vehicles dont have belts,I jump between motors a lot and could get done if I forget which one I am in.Its an easy pull for the plod,why not get them out chasing real criminals.
Almost every time the subject of police nicking drivers for no seatbelt or speeding, somebody trots out the “why aren’t they doing some proper police work/nicking real criminals?” line. Does it never occur to these people that dealing with minor transgressions is “proper police work” and so often leads on to something far more serious? Why do they assume that a coppper “looking for seatbelt offences” is oblivious to anything else that might crop up?
Stopping someone for an apparently trivial offence gives the policeman the chance to get a few more details for further checks if required. What is the demeanour of the driver - does he appear to be maybe hiding something? “Real criminals” often (not always, but often) show the same calculated disregard for “minor” laws as they do for the more serious stuff.
Those who have been around a few years will remember January 1981 for any number of reasons. If they were out and about in Sheffield, they might have seen regular beat bobbies checking out blokes parked up in their cars with girls they had just met - They might have remarked “why aren’t they chasing real criminals instead of hassling blokes simply trying to get their leg over?” One of the cars checked had dodgy numberplates (the sort of thing that would instantly be flagged up on today’s ANPR systems) so the driver was questioned about this. He was arrested, but before he was released, the copper went back to the scene and had a poke about in the bushes where said driver had gone for a ■■■■■. He found a hammer, a knife and a rope. The driver was Peter Sutcliffe (aka the Yorkshire Ripper)…
Roymondo:
Those who have been around a few years will remember January 1981 for any number of reasons. If they were out and about in Sheffield, they might have seen regular beat bobbies checking out blokes parked up in their cars with girls they had just met - They might have remarked “why aren’t they chasing real criminals instead of hassling blokes simply trying to get their leg over?” One of the cars checked had dodgy numberplates (the sort of thing that would instantly be flagged up on today’s ANPR systems) so the driver was questioned about this. He was arrested, but before he was released, the copper went back to the scene and had a poke about in the bushes where said driver had gone for a ■■■■■. He found a hammer, a knife and a rope. The driver was Peter Sutcliffe (aka the Yorkshire Ripper)…
Ah yes, the Yorkshire Ripper investigation. Those who have been around for a few years might remember this as being noted as an appallingly badly handled Police investigation.
Perhaps if there had been a few less coppers chasing solitary motorists driving at 35mph in a 30mph limit at two o’ clockin the morning, few more looking for a murderer with known habits at two o’ clock in the morning, a few less women might have died.
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I’d get the right hump if i was drunk and talking on the phone one day, then got pulled, it’s just not my fault is it
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People having no seat belt on can lead to other crimes no insurance warrant out arrest etc.
I’m sorry? That’s one hell of a leap from not wearing a seatbelt to no insurance and a warrant out for your arrest!
Lets not forget that govt statistics show that non seatbelt wearers are almost certainly tax evaders, ■■■■■■ and goat botherers!
mickyblue:
Only time a driver cannot wear a seat belt is when he is reversing, and that’s a fact. Multi drop as well if 50 meters as stated in other posts.
I cannot see a problem, belt up and shut up is what i say. Then you won’t have any problems
Only driving a MILTIDROP VEHICLE, that’s the difference! Sliding door normally gives it away!
Mate of mine, ex traffic cop told me about another copper on his beat;
Copper stops a bloke for not wearing a seatbelt, something not quite right about the bloke so copper calls for back up and when it arrives searches blokes car.
Found loads of kiddie ■■■■ and other stuff in the boot, this leads to his house being searched and find loads more on his computer, this leads to a ring of ■■■■■■ getting nicked.
All from a copper stopping someone for not wearing a seatbelt…
Yes am on something, the remnants of the FREEDOM & LIBERTY that my fathers generation fought for,would they have bothered knowing to follow would come a breed of men[?] whose main tenet in life is to display a ■■■■ like ferver for mindless compliance to the outpourings of their new masters, chronologically you missed the chance of having your unquestionable subserviency and blind obedience ‘noticed’ by the THIRD REICH,the FORTH REICH with your entourages abililty to swallow any schite and dish it out will I’m sure last a thousand years.
same as greater Manchester police getting that lad jailed for four months, for what he wrote on his t- shirt! IF YOU’RE WHITE AND ENGLISH, IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY MAY I ADD! THEN WE DON’T HAVE A FREEDOM OF SPEECH ANYMORE!
Harry Monk:
Shame the Police aren’t as vigilant when it comes to spotting diddycoys out night after night thieving our diesel. Still, no profit in that I suppose.
Only profit is to ticket you, whilst your asleep with no sidelights on in a lay-by Harry!
mickyblue wrote:I cannot see a problem, belt up and shut up is what i say. Then you won’t have any problems
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You and your kind are the ‘dream team’ for the despots and empire builders, you would have found yourselves not long ago good job stuffing jews into ovens with that all important ‘belt up and shut up’ streak of subserviency, funny how every day in this country alone millions, yes MILLIONS of bus passengers wear no seat belts DAILY, no matter lets ‘save’ lgv drivers ,JAWOHL!
Your on something
I wounder the same thing about buse
Yes am on something, the remnants of the FREEDOM & LIBERTY that my fathers generation fought for,would they have bothered knowing to follow would come a breed of men[?] whose main tenet in life is to display a ■■■■ like ferver for mindless compliance to the outpourings of their new masters, chronologically you missed the chance of having your unquestionable subserviency and blind obedience ‘noticed’ by the THIRD REICH,the FORTH REICH with your entourages abililty to swallow any schite and dish it out will I’m sure last a thousand years.
I don’t think you have a clue really do you? You can’t compare a policeman ticketing a bloke for not wearing a seatbelt to the atrocities commited by the ■■■■’s can you!
What’s the issue? Just put the ■■■■ thing on so you don’t get nicked (Plus it might just stop you going through the windscreen and smashing your brains against the road - handy that).
Put it this way - would you not wear a seatbelt on takeoff in a plane?
rambo19:
Mate of mine, ex traffic cop told me about another copper on his beat;
Copper stops a bloke for not wearing a seatbelt, something not quite right about the bloke so copper calls for back up and when it arrives searches blokes car.
Found loads of kiddie ■■■■ and other stuff in the boot, this leads to his house being searched and find loads more on his computer, this leads to a ring of ■■■■■■ getting nicked.
All from a copper stopping someone for not wearing a seatbelt…
The thing is though, people are moaning about ONE copper pulling vehicles over. I think they have forgotten that there are 139,000 others out there. The PC may of been in the traffic department doing what traffic do on a daily basis.
A number of people need to get out more and relax and just get on with there jobs rather worrying about what others are doing around them
Harry Monk:
Ah yes, the Yorkshire Ripper investigation. Those who have been around for a few years might remember this as being noted as an appallingly badly handled Police investigation.
Perhaps if there had been a few less coppers chasing solitary motorists driving at 35mph in a 30mph limit at two o’ clockin the morning, few more looking for a murderer with known habits at two o’ clock in the morning, a few less women might have died.
I only used the Ripper enquiry as an example that most folks here would have heard about - The same principle applies to any number of other similar jobs. e.g. One of the murders I worked on here in sunny Northamptonshire in the late 90s. Again, the victim was a prostitute and in this case she had been dumped on a railway line (hopefully already dead, as being run over by a train is not a nice way to go). As a result there was no forensic evidence from the minced up remains of the body and no known crime scene as on the night in question she was a street walker. Once again, the offender came to light only as a result of a minor traffic stop (he had a doctored tax disc in his car) and when the traffic officer made enquiries at his home, the suspect’s wife was so impressed by the PC’s fairness that she made certain disclosures to him about things her husband had forced her to do, and eventually gave information that led to the husband being arrested. His car was eventually found at a scrapyard 15 miles away, and the victim’s blood was found on the seats, along with her handprints on the windows. Without that minor traffic stop, none of this would have been found and the case would almost certainly have remained undetected.
IF YOU’RE WHITE AND ENGLISH, IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY MAY I ADD! THEN WE DON’T HAVE A FREEDOM OF SPEECH ANYMORE! 
