Just a little word of warning for anyone delivering to Sainsburys, Booker, Tuffnels or any other industry near by in Haydock. The company I’ve been block working for over the last 6 weeks is there too and every week at least twice or three times there is a ‘policeman’ who sits near to the roundabout at entrance to the ind estate. All he does (and this is every week) is look for lorry drivers wearing no seat belt and pulls them and books them. He can be there for up to 2 hours at a time. He will be there in his BMW X5 this week without fail so I will post a pic for you all to see the way he parks which is usually half on the side and half off the side 20 yards from the roundabout
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so in other words wear your seatbelt and you’ll save yourself some hassle.
Basically yep, and a £60 fine. One of the companies drivers went out of the yard were I’m working out of (Haydock cross), turned right at the give way, and right at the roundabout and was heading into bookers, he actually flashed the copper to let him out of a side road and was promptly pulled for no belt… He explained where he had come from (I.E. just there) and pointed to where he was going (just to here !) but this fella spouted something about being too far away from start off point to delivery point for him not to be wearing a belt and still done him ! The driver told him he was on multi drop (Im not sure what the conitations of not wearing a belt and multi drop are - if any) but the copper mentioned something about 50 yards to him and he should have been wearing a seat belt. Anyone shed any light on what he meant? Anyway, before anyone asks - no the driver wasn’t me ! I actually do wear my belt.
scotstrucker:
so in other words wear your seatbelt, it’s the law.
FTFY
Can’t really see the problem. The thing in the law about not wearing your seatbelt refers to multi drop drivers who would be getting in and out of the seat every 20-30 feet.
OK, driving lorries when manoeuvring you don’t need your seatbelt but the rest of the time it’s there for your safety isn’t it? Well, a lot would argue but having been in a few serious RTAs in my life I would say that a safety belt was very helpful to my survival and it would also be to your pocket for the fine too…
Not that anyone would listen to me would they, just a mere driver…
why would anyone see a police car and not wear a seat belt?
do turkeys vote for Xmas?
Its easy figures for him like shooting fish in a barrel instead of being out on the open road where the psychos are, he is in an industrial estate looking for drivers immediately coming out rdcs where it is easy to forget to put your belt on straight away.
Kerbdog:
Basically yep, and a £60 fine. One of the companies drivers went out of the yard were I’m working out of (Haydock cross), turned right at the give way, and right at the roundabout and was heading into bookers, he actually flashed the copper to let him out of a side road and was promptly pulled for no belt… He explained where he had come from (I.E. just there) and pointed to where he was going (just to here !) but this fella spouted something about being too far away from start off point to delivery point for him not to be wearing a belt and still done him ! The driver told him he was on multi drop (Im not sure what the conitations of not wearing a belt and multi drop are - if any) but the copper mentioned something about 50 yards to him and he should have been wearing a seat belt. Anyone shed any light on what he meant? Anyway, before anyone asks - no the driver wasn’t me ! I actually do wear my belt.
Thought that was simple. Wear a seat belt and you wont be pulled for not wearing it.
merc0447:
Its easy figures for him like shooting fish in a barrel instead of being out on the open road where the psychos are, he is in an industrial estate looking for drivers immediately coming out rdcs where it is easy to forget to put your belt on straight away.
maybe a prevention drive stopping drivers who dont wear seatbelts getting on the road then having an accident and flying through the windscreen. Probably rather do that than having to tell the drivers family he/she wont be coming home because he wasnt wearing a seatbelt. To be fair though words of advice normally do the trick rather than fining all the time
I’m thinking the point of the post is being missed here, I, and everybody else know it’s the law to wear a belt whether you agree or not…end of, the o/p was questioning whether the copper was using his time to maximise the upkeep of the law/fight crime, or whether his time could be put to a better use, and at the same time not compromise Police-Public relations… delicate as it is, with pedantic rules of 50yds with or without a belt or whatever.
I think all traffic cars should be of the unmarked variety. Regular publicity for the Police service show that this is when they get the most results.
Which reminds me, I should stick to the speed limit more when popping down the pub on Sunday night
robroy:
I’m thinking the point of the post is being missed here, I, and everybody else know it’s the law to wear a belt whether you agree or not…end of, the o/p was questioning whether the copper was using his time to maximise the upkeep of the law/fight crime, or whether his time could be put to a better use, and at the same time not compromise Police-Public relations… delicate as it is, with pedantic rules of 50yds with or without a belt or whatever.
Agreed !
To “Dads Retired” : You mistook what I meant by ‘does anybody know what he meant by this’. I was referring to a 50ft restriction from the destination and / or yard !
Ah got it now, you don’t have to wear a seat belt driving between drops of 50 METRES or less !!! Don’t know where the hell that would be !!!
To be honest though I’ve said it before. A freind of ours was told by police he would be dead if he’d have been wearing a seatbelt in his truck. As it was he was thrown clear of the truck and survived with multiple injuries, but recovered. If you are in a truck and you are the single occupant, it should be at your discression.
You allways get the riot act read to you about safety and wot if…seat belt didnt help me when i was t-boned by a young lad doing 70+ down a one way street into me i had my belt on…the car i was driving was less than 2 yrs old it ripped the seat belt out the floor my feet bent the pedals and my head still hit the windscreen in the corner… blood ■■■■■■■ out my head felt like id been hit by a raging bull…went to hospital in the 2 tones…lucky i didnt break or fracture anything, the next few days the bruising was horendous where the belt had cut into my chest and arm , i stiil wear one because the law says so…or i wouldnt.
Kerbdog:
Ah got it now, you don’t have to wear a seat belt driving between drops of 50 METRES or less !!! Don’t know where the hell that would be !!!
Ask your milkman, or a UPS driver on a city route. They’ll tell you.
shytalk:
You allways get the riot act read to you about safety and wot if…seat belt didnt help me when i was t-boned by a young lad doing 70+ down a one way street into me i had my belt on…the car i was driving was less than 2 yrs old it ripped the seat belt out the floor my feet bent the pedals and my head still hit the windscreen in the corner… blood ■■■■■■■ out my head felt like id been hit by a raging bull…went to hospital in the 2 tones…lucky i didnt break or fracture anything, the next few days the bruising was horendous where the belt had cut into my chest and arm , i stiil wear one because the law says so…or i wouldnt.
Law of averages bud. For every one like you there’s a hundred who have escaped serious injury or death by wearing a belt, and probably half a dozen or even less who are no longer here to post out-dated attitudes because they didn’t and got wiped out. Legislation takes the majority view; same with crash helmets for motorcyclists.
And I’m minded to suggest that from what i’m reading here, you may have had even more serious injuries had you not been wearing a belt.
I think if you have to keep getting in and out of the cab in short distances ie about every 250 yds then you are exempt but not sure but just do it clunck click like the man said it is a 2 second operation remember in a truck most drivers don’t go through the windscreen but up into the roof in a high impact accident.
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2nd hand information this but the lad who got done from the firm im currently with says he seen the same copper pulling a rigid over and the copper wasn’t wearing his belt. Im not sure whether its true what he said or whether coppers on business even need to wear one anyway though !
Sod me thats the next chief constable (won’t use Old Righty’s speeling though appropriate in this case) in training getting his score up, look how many bad uns i done today sarge, the world is safe thanks to me.
Course a real copper might realise that the law is an ■■■ over belts in lorries and look the other way, anyone tried looking past the wardrobe door mirrors fitted to Volvo, MAN and the new Mercs among others whilst wearing a belt, basically you can’t, so if you want to drive properly which means approaching junctions roundabouts etc and not clean the poor bugger up who disappeared behind your bloody oversized mirrors designed presumably by the bog cleaner then the belt will be off.
edit…the mirrors might be OK in size, but sited ridiculously and Volvo are The culprit for this, and why do the casings need to be so big with no cut outs between wide angle and main mirror (as Scania and Daf) to allow a bit of through vision.
Jeez i’ll have to put me cup o’tea down and me phone in order to belt up if i see this easy lifer lurking, meanwhile his oppo’s the real coppers have to go out and face the scum of society with one hand tied behind their backs and get no bloody thanks for their trouble.
Mind you from some of the posts here some are in regular accidents, so belts best used…