How many Labour Brexiteers will now be voting for Keir Starmer at the next election, for a matter of interest?
switchlogic:
Winseer:
I had a look at taking a job on board a cobelfret ship once…I think you went to sea for weeks at a time…living in a cabin on board the ship.Blimey, that crew sure had a lucky escape
It would be like the Marie Celeste all over again…only this time just one crew member left. 
robroy:
switchlogic:
Winseer:
I had a look at taking a job on board a cobelfret ship once…I think you went to sea for weeks at a time…living in a cabin on board the ship.Blimey, that crew sure had a lucky escape
It would be like the Marie Celeste all over again…only this time just one crew member left.
Nah. - I happen to play Chess, and the game in progress on board the Marie Celeste - was left unfinished… It couldn’t have been any genetic ancestor of mine then, that left a game en passant like that… 
the maoster:
What measures were taken four weeks ago?I find it strange really as Bojo and his cohorts are apparently to blame for everything from the polar ice caps melting to the Nazis finally discovering Anne Franks hiding place that you’d give them some slight credit.
What was said knocking Johnson, and his Gov in my post?
Why 4 weeks?
thelancet.com/journals/lani … 73-3099(2030195-X/fulltext
Very roughly it’s 4 weeks from infection to death.
The measures that were in place 4 weeks ago, had resulted in far fewer cases of transmission then, so fewer deaths today.
The lockdown worked.
Let’s hope relaxation of the lockdown, doesn’t result in people getting too lax, and thinking the virus is beaten, and an upswing in infection rate.
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Edit.
I could have worded it better.
I meant those measures '‘in place’ 4 weeks ago were resulting in fewer deaths than previously, not that measures ‘newly taken’ 4 weeks ago were responsible.
If the lockdown saved so much as a single life, then YES it can be deemed to have worked.
Trouble is though, if you didn’t die, - how would you ever know that you were up for certain death beforehand, without a proberbial Crystal Ball?
…Might “not being able to see the future” be the main reason that people simply are not grateful for having their lives saved 99% of the time?
If you walk down the street at any time day or night, there are probably over 100 ways in which you could get killed in less than one minute from your current position and actions…
“Danger” is as much all around us as Oxygen or Ground to walk upon.
Instead of being worried by such stuff though, the vast majority of us simply plod from one moment to the next, confident that they won’t be faced with may situations where death is literally in the balance, IF they make the wrong 50/50 move, say…
Most “Dangers” might be in the realm of “close to impossible” in that they are 1000-1 against happening at any moment.
For instance, “Crossing the road” might be a 1/200 chance of being injured, 1/1000 chance of being killed outright. Standing still on the pavement might also have a 1/100000 chance of being hit by a car going off the road though, so “refusing to cross” here represents buying multiple “chance lottery tickets” if you like, where even a 1 in 100,000 chance will eventually come up, if you roll those Dungeonmaster Dice often enough!!
There doesn’t appear to be a lot of rhyme or reason to the plague; Spain introduced compulsory mask wearing more than three weeks ago yet has been put back on the quarantine list. As much as medical types would have you believe to me it appears to be nothing more than a lottery as to whether you get it and if you do how it affects you.
Anyone have any figures for Sweden who seem to have bucked the whole lockdown/mask rigmarole.
Now This is something I would worry about more than Covid.
I have no plans to go to a swimming pool anytime soon, as it stands.
Franglais:
Truckulent:
Franglais:
Truckulent:
Franglais:
yourhavingalarf:
Truckulent:
And secondly, if masks and gloves are so effective, how come the biggest spread of Covid has happened in hospitals and care establishments where the quality of PPE is high and the correct procedures are followed regarding application and removal?Was your question…
I’ve answered that.
Whether or not you agree with it, I care not.
Maybe a valid question would be
“how effective are using gloves and masks, compared to not using them?”
I wonder how many Doctors and Nurses would volunteer to work on a C19 ward without them, as a control?Doctors and nurses. Professionals using professional grade equipment correctly.
Unlike folk in the supermarkets with a bit of old scarf tied around their face they keep fiddling with before touching their phones, surfaces in shops, doors conveyor belts.
Sorry, but there is no comparison between professionals using professional grade equipment correctly and dozy shoppers with ill fitting masks made out of old socks they keep fiddling with!!!
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Fair comment
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Edit.
Or at least it is, as far as it goes.
Agreed that badly used masks are no help.
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But that doesn’t address your previous comments about their use in hospitals failing to prevent transmission.
Sure their is transmission, but wouldn’t it be worse withour masks? .
Your initial statement is flawed.We’ll never know as I’m sure no experiment to that effect has been trialled.
But then again the ‘advice’ regarding this ‘new’ virus has changed so much that I doubt any of the experts would be prepared to stake their own lives on their claims.Nevertheless, wearing a non approved mask incorrectly is going to stop zilch when correctly worn pro PPE wasn’t infallible.
Today I witnessed (out of a sample of 40 I counted) 31people go in and out of Primark.(waiting for the wife) all of whom touched their mask and faces as they entered or left. Most grabbed it by the business part and shoved it in their pockets. Others pulled their masks out of the same pocket they’d just taken the mobile phone from. And this is the great way to stop the virus? Laughable.
And, as all this rages, 0.044% of the UK population have died ‘with’ an illness that 80%+ suffer nothing more than a minor inconvenience from and that, were it not for constant media bombardment the good folk of this country would be utterly unaware of.
The world has truly gone mad.
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No.
You’re mixing up your figures.
0.0whatever% Of the POPULATION have died.
80% of the INFECTED have only minor symptoms.
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Misleading putting those figures together.
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About 1% of those infected die. Many more have serious effects, including being in intensive care. Some will have life long effects.
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Less than 10% of the population have been infected so far.
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No
0.044% of the population have died. The numbers that have died from the virus who have been infected AND DO NOT HAVE THREE OR MORE SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES are similar. It is only those that do have health issues that are succombing - and over half of them are over 80 for goodness’ sake!!
The estimated numbers who have died with genuinely no other (known) health issues is around 1300. And most of those were over 60.
The question that needs asking is ‘how many deaths have been as a direct result of Covid and nothing else and where no other health issues were present’?
That includes obesity - that’s a health issue.
The numbers for this are much, much lower than the 45000 + that are claimed to have died ‘with Covid’.
The chances of a healthy person under 60 dying of Covid is around 0.15%. The chances of the same individual dying in an RTC is about 0.39%. So you’re over twice as likely to die on the roads than from Covid.
But we’re still all having to wear pointless masks and bleat when we’re told to by a government that makes the Dad’s Army crew look efficient…
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Didn’t I say that earlier? About being killed in an RTC which for a pro driver is a constant present danger - is it not?
We mitigate such risks in our industry by being aware of “idiots around us” like the other thread talks on, rather than being an idiot ourselves, like undertaking palletliner driver is in that video…
A good example though of “Let’s all hate the Agency driver for obviously hanging it out at a higher hourly rate than we’re on as full timers”,
…which leads smoothly into that other current thread: “Would you grass up a fellow driver?”
Answer is clearly YES for full timers OF agency, by the looks of it…
Truckulent:
Franglais:
Truckulent:
Franglais:
Truckulent:
Franglais:
yourhavingalarf:
Truckulent:
And secondly, if masks and gloves are so effective, how come the biggest spread of Covid has happened in hospitals and care establishments where the quality of PPE is high and the correct procedures are followed regarding application and removal?Was your question…
I’ve answered that.
Whether or not you agree with it, I care not.
Maybe a valid question would be
“how effective are using gloves and masks, compared to not using them?”
I wonder how many Doctors and Nurses would volunteer to work on a C19 ward without them, as a control?Doctors and nurses. Professionals using professional grade equipment correctly.
Unlike folk in the supermarkets with a bit of old scarf tied around their face they keep fiddling with before touching their phones, surfaces in shops, doors conveyor belts.
Sorry, but there is no comparison between professionals using professional grade equipment correctly and dozy shoppers with ill fitting masks made out of old socks they keep fiddling with!!!
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Fair comment
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Edit.
Or at least it is, as far as it goes.
Agreed that badly used masks are no help.
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But that doesn’t address your previous comments about their use in hospitals failing to prevent transmission.
Sure their is transmission, but wouldn’t it be worse withour masks? .
Your initial statement is flawed.We’ll never know as I’m sure no experiment to that effect has been trialled.
But then again the ‘advice’ regarding this ‘new’ virus has changed so much that I doubt any of the experts would be prepared to stake their own lives on their claims.Nevertheless, wearing a non approved mask incorrectly is going to stop zilch when correctly worn pro PPE wasn’t infallible.
Today I witnessed (out of a sample of 40 I counted) 31people go in and out of Primark.(waiting for the wife) all of whom touched their mask and faces as they entered or left. Most grabbed it by the business part and shoved it in their pockets. Others pulled their masks out of the same pocket they’d just taken the mobile phone from. And this is the great way to stop the virus? Laughable.
And, as all this rages, 0.044% of the UK population have died ‘with’ an illness that 80%+ suffer nothing more than a minor inconvenience from and that, were it not for constant media bombardment the good folk of this country would be utterly unaware of.
The world has truly gone mad.
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No.
You’re mixing up your figures.
0.0whatever% Of the POPULATION have died.
80% of the INFECTED have only minor symptoms.
.
Misleading putting those figures together.
.
About 1% of those infected die. Many more have serious effects, including being in intensive care. Some will have life long effects.
.
Less than 10% of the population have been infected so far.
.No
0.044% of the population have died. The numbers that have died from the virus who have been infected AND DO NOT HAVE THREE OR MORE SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES are similar. It is only those that do have health issues that are succombing - and over half of them are over 80 for goodness’ sake!!
The estimated numbers who have died with genuinely no other (known) health issues is around 1300. And most of those were over 60.
The question that needs asking is ‘how many deaths have been as a direct result of Covid and nothing else and where no other health issues were present’?
That includes obesity - that’s a health issue.The numbers for this are much, much lower than the 45000 + that are claimed to have died ‘with Covid’.
The chances of a healthy person under 60 dying of Covid is around 0.15%. The chances of the same individual dying in an RTC is about 0.39%. So you’re over twice as likely to die on the roads than from Covid.
But we’re still all having to wear pointless masks and bleat when we’re told to by a government that makes the Dad’s Army crew look efficient…
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I think you’re asking the wrong questions.
“How many die who have no underlying problems” is irrelevant. The UK has almost 30% of it’s population obese, so at a single swipe 30% are exempt from those you’re talking about! They are still human beings.
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And that approx 0.4% figure you mention is a lifetime risk isn’t it? If we were to end lockdown and all preventive measures wouldn’t the virus expand exponentially and (up to herd immunity levels) infect the population in a year or 18months or so? Again you’re comparing two different things.
UK road traffic deaths annually, has been under 1,800 for years.
Look at the figures you give for C19 and then try to equate them!
Franglais:
Truckulent:
Franglais:
Truckulent:
Franglais:
Truckulent:
Franglais:
yourhavingalarf:
Truckulent:
And secondly, if masks and gloves are so effective, how come the biggest spread of Covid has happened in hospitals and care establishments where the quality of PPE is high and the correct procedures are followed regarding application and removal?Was your question…
I’ve answered that.
Whether or not you agree with it, I care not.
Maybe a valid question would be
“how effective are using gloves and masks, compared to not using them?”
I wonder how many Doctors and Nurses would volunteer to work on a C19 ward without them, as a control?Doctors and nurses. Professionals using professional grade equipment correctly.
Unlike folk in the supermarkets with a bit of old scarf tied around their face they keep fiddling with before touching their phones, surfaces in shops, doors conveyor belts.
Sorry, but there is no comparison between professionals using professional grade equipment correctly and dozy shoppers with ill fitting masks made out of old socks they keep fiddling with!!!
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Fair comment
.
Edit.
Or at least it is, as far as it goes.
Agreed that badly used masks are no help.
.
But that doesn’t address your previous comments about their use in hospitals failing to prevent transmission.
Sure their is transmission, but wouldn’t it be worse withour masks? .
Your initial statement is flawed.We’ll never know as I’m sure no experiment to that effect has been trialled.
But then again the ‘advice’ regarding this ‘new’ virus has changed so much that I doubt any of the experts would be prepared to stake their own lives on their claims.Nevertheless, wearing a non approved mask incorrectly is going to stop zilch when correctly worn pro PPE wasn’t infallible.
Today I witnessed (out of a sample of 40 I counted) 31people go in and out of Primark.(waiting for the wife) all of whom touched their mask and faces as they entered or left. Most grabbed it by the business part and shoved it in their pockets. Others pulled their masks out of the same pocket they’d just taken the mobile phone from. And this is the great way to stop the virus? Laughable.
And, as all this rages, 0.044% of the UK population have died ‘with’ an illness that 80%+ suffer nothing more than a minor inconvenience from and that, were it not for constant media bombardment the good folk of this country would be utterly unaware of.
The world has truly gone mad.
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No.
You’re mixing up your figures.
0.0whatever% Of the POPULATION have died.
80% of the INFECTED have only minor symptoms.
.
Misleading putting those figures together.
.
About 1% of those infected die. Many more have serious effects, including being in intensive care. Some will have life long effects.
.
Less than 10% of the population have been infected so far.
.No
0.044% of the population have died. The numbers that have died from the virus who have been infected AND DO NOT HAVE THREE OR MORE SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES are similar. It is only those that do have health issues that are succombing - and over half of them are over 80 for goodness’ sake!!
The estimated numbers who have died with genuinely no other (known) health issues is around 1300. And most of those were over 60.
The question that needs asking is ‘how many deaths have been as a direct result of Covid and nothing else and where no other health issues were present’?
That includes obesity - that’s a health issue.The numbers for this are much, much lower than the 45000 + that are claimed to have died ‘with Covid’.
The chances of a healthy person under 60 dying of Covid is around 0.15%. The chances of the same individual dying in an RTC is about 0.39%. So you’re over twice as likely to die on the roads than from Covid.
But we’re still all having to wear pointless masks and bleat when we’re told to by a government that makes the Dad’s Army crew look efficient…
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I think you’re asking the wrong questions.
“How many die who have no underlying problems” is irrelevant. The UK has almost 30% of it’s population obese, so at a single swipe 30% are exempt from those you’re talking about! They are still human beings.
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And that approx 0.4% figure you mention is a lifetime risk isn’t it? If we were to end lockdown and all preventive measures wouldn’t the virus expand exponentially and (up to herd immunity levels) infect the population in a year or 18months or so? Again you’re comparing two different things.
UK road traffic deaths annually, has been under 1,800 for years.
Look at the figures you give for C19 and then try to equate them!
Hardly irrelevant is it? No more than quoting figures of deaths, a lot of which had bugger all to do with Covid.
Look at the figures for cancer, heart disease, diabetes lung disease, etc etc we live with these risks daily. People die from these illnesses all the time. No one cares because they just don’t think it will happen to them.
If 30% are obese, simple - it’s in their hands to change it. If not, they’re at increased risk, but they key to reducing that risk is up to them, no one else.
0.044% is a tiny number. You cannot mitigate entirely all risk all the time otherwise no one would ever leave their house.
You cannot run the world based on looking after a tiny percentage of the population at the expense of everyone else, as those of you who think that we should lockdown until Covid magically 'goes away’seem to think.
It’s here to stay. You can either get on with your life, make the best if things and take a tiny risk. Or hide in the cupboard where you may well get cancer anyway and die of boredom.
Make your choice.
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ETS:
Loudspeaker: ‘‘Have you got a mask, mate? Put on a mask before you go in’’. 180, back to truck, back to the yard,
I’m happy to see there are services out there who don’t harass their customers about wearing masks and I’ve started using them instead of my local ones. I can see the main factor for (big) stores to play along with the gov’t rules is just that - it’s rules. They’re used to playing by them so to them I think it’s just one more regulation they have to abide by. Sadly for them it’s going to (and already is) cost them revenue loss as more and more people will shop online. I’ve had to go to 2 stores since and I’m not looking forward to my next visit. Mind you, one of those was to simply collect and order I had placed online. I have a feeling non-essential stores are soon going to be a thing of the past, as in physical stores where people walk in to browse/buy stuff they usually don’t even need but that’s another topic 
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Edit to add, everywhere I go where people wear masks they fiddle with them CONSTANTLY as it’s obviously causing them discomfort, I mean the gal who handed me my parcels touched her mask 3-4 times with her fingers while talking to me to get my details. If she had covid so do I now. Elderly people in particular, can’t keep their hands away from the face mask. It’s a fiasco.
ETS:
ETS:
Loudspeaker: ‘‘Have you got a mask, mate? Put on a mask before you go in’’. 180, back to truck, back to the yard,I’m happy to see there are services out there who don’t harass their customers about wearing masks and I’ve started using them instead of my local ones. I can see the main factor for (big) stores to play along with the gov’t rules is just that - it’s rules. They’re used to playing by them so to them I think it’s just one more regulation they have to abide by. Sadly for them it’s going to (and already is) cost them revenue loss as more and more people will shop online. I’ve had to go to 2 stores since and I’m not looking forward to my next visit. Mind you, one of those was to simply collect and order I had placed online. I have a feeling non-essential stores are soon going to be a thing of the past, as in physical stores where people walk in to browse/buy stuff they usually don’t even need but that’s another topic
Edit to add, everywhere I go where people wear masks they fiddle with them CONSTANTLY as it’s obviously causing them discomfort, I mean the gal who handed me my parcels touched her mask 3-4 times with her fingers while talking to me to get my details. If she had covid so do I now. Elderly people in particular, can’t keep their hands away from the face mask. It’s a fiasco.
Don’t Morrisons and the discounters gain here, where you turn up, stick your wagon on the dock, and they unload it with PPMs rather than the driver go in there at all?
Since the lockdown began, exchanging “Go sit in the cooler drive”, or “You unload it, as our bay staff are on break for the next hour” common beforehand, now has turned to “Go sit in the passenger seat of your cab driver…”
Winseer:
Since the lockdown began, exchanging “Go sit in the cooler drive”, or “You unload it, as our bay staff are on break for the next hour” common beforehand
Common? Which RDCs do you frequent where you wait in inside chilled warehouse or unload yourself because staff are on break?! Because I’ve been to A LOT of RDCs, mostly with fridges, and never had that happen! 
switchlogic:
Winseer:
Since the lockdown began, exchanging “Go sit in the cooler drive”, or “You unload it, as our bay staff are on break for the next hour” common beforehandCommon? Which RDCs do you frequent where you wait in inside chilled warehouse or unload yourself because staff are on break?! Because I’ve been to A LOT of RDCs, mostly with fridges, and never had that happen!
Brakes at Grantham you used to have to go in and sit on a chair next to your bay. Thankfully not been in a while so no idea what its like with Covid control.
Oh I’m sure it’s not unheard of but it’s very far from common
toonsy:
switchlogic:
Winseer:
Since the lockdown began, exchanging “Go sit in the cooler drive”, or “You unload it, as our bay staff are on break for the next hour” common beforehandCommon? Which RDCs do you frequent where you wait in inside chilled warehouse or unload yourself because staff are on break?! Because I’ve been to A LOT of RDCs, mostly with fridges, and never had that happen!
Brakes at Grantham you used to have to go in and sit on a chair next to your bay. Thankfully not been in a while so no idea what its like with Covid control.
Tescos Dagenham (K&H) and Didcot (ND) spring to mind.
I handed my keys in at Didcot, having left my passenger door unlocked so I could sneak back into my cab, but the yard marshall was having none of it. I got ordered into this small room with around 30 other hairy arsed drivers, an expensive vending machine putting out something supposedly coffee that smelled like effluent, and whilst I exaggerate on the toilets not being much better than the picture below, - the entire “Unpleasent Cooler Experience” was made for me then and there, one hot summer afternoon in 2012-13 whilst working out of F&W Tenham going into these places as RDC supplier…
At Dagenham, the “driver room” was brand new, and a little more pleasant BUT I was amazed at how the comfy looking Sofa chairs provided STILL looked f…ed and knackered, with splits/■■■ burns/chewing gum on them, as if they’d been acquired from a landfil site rather than purcahsed at DFS out of the surplus petty cash… I saw a couple of other drivers had pulled a couple of these bucket sofa chair things together to make a makeshift bunk, but by the time I got in there, there was only one (the most knackered-looking of course) chair left, so I was left with the eternal foul coffee vending machine, and BBC news 24 spouting out rubbish about the closing ceremony, as if there wasn’t anything else more important going on in the world…
Whilst I was at Brakes - I never actually got to run into Grantham. I did Thetford, Brighton, Thorpe, and Bishop’s Stortford local depots, along with Tamworth, Reading, and Premier Park RDCs.
I should also point out that when I said “Cooler”, I didn’t mean the chill part of the warehouse sitting on a chair next to a bay…
I was thinking more…
Sainsbury London actual store deliveries - were the ones that “used to go on break just as you backed onto the bay”. A regular dodge by full timers against hapless agency drivers, during my short spell at “Agency Driver’s Network” running out of the 2020 RDC into mostly smaller London branches of Sainsburys, the agency which seems to be refered to on here as “ADR” for some reason… I thought ADR was a Hazpack qualification?
switchlogic:
Oh I’m sure it’s not unheard of but it’s very far from common
I hear that at the discounter RDC work “80% of your work is not driving”…
Does that mean “Drivers” have to pick, load, and drive the wagons to the stores when working there then?
…It must take a while to prep-pick the entire load for your own wagon, I mean… Is it true though?
Winseer:
toonsy:
switchlogic:
Winseer:
Since the lockdown began, exchanging “Go sit in the cooler drive”, or “You unload it, as our bay staff are on break for the next hour” common beforehandCommon? Which RDCs do you frequent where you wait in inside chilled warehouse or unload yourself because staff are on break?! Because I’ve been to A LOT of RDCs, mostly with fridges, and never had that happen!
Brakes at Grantham you used to have to go in and sit on a chair next to your bay. Thankfully not been in a while so no idea what its like with Covid control.
Tescos Dagenham (K&H) and Didcot (ND) spring to mind.
I handed my keys in at Didcot, having left my passenger door unlocked so I could sneak back into my cab, but the yard marshall was having none of it. I got ordered into this small room with around 30 other hairy arsed drivers, an expensive vending machine putting out something supposedly coffee that smelled like effluent, and whilst I exaggerate on the toilets not being much better than the picture below, - the entire “Unpleasent Cooler Experience” was made for me then and there, one hot summer afternoon in 2012-13 whilst working out of F&W Tenham going into these places as RDC supplier…
0At Dagenham, the “driver room” was brand new, and a little more pleasant BUT I was amazed at how the comfy looking Sofa chairs provided STILL looked f…ed and knackered, with splits/■■■ burns/chewing gum on them, as if they’d been acquired from a landfil site rather than purcahsed at DFS out of the surplus petty cash… I saw a couple of other drivers had pulled a couple of these bucket sofa chair things together to make a makeshift bunk, but by the time I got in there, there was only one (the most knackered-looking of course) chair left, so I was left with the eternal foul coffee vending machine, and BBC news 24 spouting out rubbish about the closing ceremony, as if there wasn’t anything else more important going on in the world…
Whilst I was at Brakes - I never actually got to run into Grantham. I did Thetford, Brighton, Thorpe, and Bishop’s Stortford local depots, along with Tamworth, Reading, and Premier Park RDCs.
I should also point out that when I said “Cooler”, I didn’t mean the chill part of the warehouse sitting on a chair next to a bay…
I was thinking more…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZa79QGDeo8Sainsbury London actual store deliveries - were the ones that “used to go on break just as you backed onto the bay”. A regular dodge by full timers against hapless agency drivers, during my short spell at “Agency Driver’s Network” running out of the 2020 RDC into mostly smaller London branches of Sainsburys, the agency which seems to be refered to on here as “ADR” for some reason… I thought ADR was a Hazpack qualification?
So, two examples where you wait in a waiting room rather than the warehouse cold store, no idea what cooler means otherwise. Then Sainsbury’s store deliveries, drivers ALWAYS unload at stores for any supermarket (tho not RDCs unless Lidl/Aldi) I’ve worked for, most of them including Sainsbury’s, Elstree, Hoddesdon, Waltham Point. Occasionally staff have gone on break and that means simply a short wait until they return, you still have to help unload it either way. Next you’ll be telling us they used to make you stack shelves
The ADR agency is called ADR on here because it’s called ADR believe it or not. Surprise surprise sometimes things share names.
Winseer:
switchlogic:
Oh I’m sure it’s not unheard of but it’s very far from commonI hear that at the discounter RDC work “80% of your work is not driving”…
Does that mean “Drivers” have to pick, load, and drive the wagons to the stores when working there then?
…It must take a while to prep-pick the entire load for your own wagon, I mean… Is it true though?
Not much to say to this, I’m sure it makes sense in your head but not to me sorry. rolling eyes emoji