Not looking forward to next week

[truckulent]

Franglais:

yourhavingalarf:

Truckulent:
And secondly, if masks and gloves are so effective, how come the biggest spread of Covid has happened in hospitals and care establishments where the quality of PPE is high and the correct procedures are followed regarding application and removal?

Was your question…

I’ve answered that.

Whether or not you agree with it, I care not.

Maybe a valid question would be
“how effective are using gloves and masks, compared to not using them?”
I wonder how many Doctors and Nurses would volunteer to work on a C19 ward without them, as a control?

Doctors and nurses. Professionals using professional grade equipment correctly.

Unlike folk in the supermarkets with a bit of old scarf tied around their face they keep fiddling with before touching their phones, surfaces in shops, doors conveyor belts.

Sorry, but there is no comparison between professionals using professional grade equipment correctly and dozy shoppers with ill fitting masks made out of old socks they keep fiddling with!!!

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[franglais]

Truckulent:

Franglais:

yourhavingalarf:

Truckulent:
And secondly, if masks and gloves are so effective, how come the biggest spread of Covid has happened in hospitals and care establishments where the quality of PPE is high and the correct procedures are followed regarding application and removal?

Was your question…

I’ve answered that.

Whether or not you agree with it, I care not.

Maybe a valid question would be
“how effective are using gloves and masks, compared to not using them?”
I wonder how many Doctors and Nurses would volunteer to work on a C19 ward without them, as a control?

Doctors and nurses. Professionals using professional grade equipment correctly.

Unlike folk in the supermarkets with a bit of old scarf tied around their face they keep fiddling with before touching their phones, surfaces in shops, doors conveyor belts.

Sorry, but there is no comparison between professionals using professional grade equipment correctly and dozy shoppers with ill fitting masks made out of old socks they keep fiddling with!!!

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Fair comment
.
Edit.
Or at least it is, as far as it goes.
Agreed that badly used masks are no help.
.
But that doesn’t address your previous comments about their use in hospitals failing to prevent transmission.
Sure their is transmission, but wouldn’t it be worse withour masks? .
Your initial statement is flawed.

[ezydriver]

I went into Tesco on Saturday. After all the “I’m not going to wear a mask” rhetoric I saw leading up to Friday, I felt sure only 50% would be wearing them. So I went in without one, and was surprised to see I was the only one, literally the only one, in the whole store not wearing one. The feelings of disapproval from people’s looks were palpable, and I felt extremely self conscious. I was gravely disappointed in everyone else, as usual. Conversely, I paid for diesel in a busy BP garage last night, a number of people were in there, and only one was wearing a mask.

[winseer]

ezydriver:
I went into Tesco on Saturday. After all the “I’m not going to wear a mask” rhetoric I saw leading up to Friday, I felt sure only 50% would be wearing them. So I went in without one, and was surprised to see I was the only one, literally the only one, in the whole store not wearing one. The feelings of disapproval from people’s looks were palpable, and I felt extremely self conscious. I was gravely disappointed in everyone else, as usual. Conversely, I paid for diesel in a busy BP garage last night, a number of people were in there, and only one was wearing a mask.

Doya think somone grassed you up, whilst you were walking around the Tesco Aisles. “Palpable Dirty Looks” is normally WAY beyond all the warning someone like me gets - just before someone does the dirty on me… But that’s the topic on another thread…

Got our shopping slot on Iceland this week.

I wonder if demand for van delivery drivers will ever be high enough to push up the hourly rates there?

[ezydriver]

Winseer:

ezydriver:
I went into Tesco on Saturday. After all the “I’m not going to wear a mask” rhetoric I saw leading up to Friday, I felt sure only 50% would be wearing them. So I went in without one, and was surprised to see I was the only one, literally the only one, in the whole store not wearing one. The feelings of disapproval from people’s looks were palpable, and I felt extremely self conscious. I was gravely disappointed in everyone else, as usual. Conversely, I paid for diesel in a busy BP garage last night, a number of people were in there, and only one was wearing a mask.

Doya think somone grassed you up, whilst you were walking around the Tesco Aisles.

More than likely. I’ve never seen acidic zeal like I’ve seen in the lockdown police.

[wheel_nut]

I have difficulty breathing, I don’t have a breathing difficulty, I see small kids in Doctors, shops, etc, no masks, it would be these ankle biters who are easy to train while they are still sneezing on my ankles and knees.

My pal has just gone back to sea, he is senior crew on a cruise ship, he finished a cruise and had to self isolate at home for two weeks, he went back on Monday and is in Quarantine on his new ship for 2 weeks, sounds like a great job for an anti social lorry driver.

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[cgscott]

Start of pandemic. Media says virus can show within 14 days…lock yourselves away.

Deaths death death.

Easing people back to life after testing and death rates drop.

Opening more testing more more cases noted less deaths though.

People who fear or cant be arsed going back to work still holdong onto the 14 day ■■■■■ that was mentioned.

Were all going to get it. Its out there now. Vaccine on way soon. No 2nd wave until media reports such ■■■■■■

Stop being sheep. End of.

[winseer]

Wheel Nut:
I have difficulty breathing, I don’t have a breathing difficulty, I see small kids in Doctors, shops, etc, no masks, it would be these ankle biters who are easy to train while they are still sneezing on my ankles and knees.

My pal has just gone back to sea, he is senior crew on a cruise ship, he finished a cruise and had to self isolate at home for two weeks, he went back on Monday and is in Quarantine on his new ship for 2 weeks, sounds like a great job for an anti social lorry driver.

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I had a look at taking a job on board a cobelfret ship once, where part of the job is crane operating, and I think they were prepared to train up the right candidate. This was around 2013, and I think you went to sea for weeks at a time, putting into ports around the baltic, living in a cabin on board the ship. The mainstay of the job was driving a container frame shunt, and fowarding the containers picked up onto one of the transport hubs just outside the port zone. I notice that at Thamesport/gateway this week, there seems to be this (rather optimum) thing where you site dozens of transport major hubs - within spitting distance from the dock unloading area, so perhaps we’ll see more intergration in future between Ports and Transport hubs as a result? It was essentially a shunter’s job, but with nobs on, because of the generous allowances, “LIAF” etc.

The money was very good indeed, and tax free to boot, as I think you spent the obligatory six months plus one day “offshore” to qualify for being a UK non-dom…

Never heard back from them when I put in an application though.

[switchlogic]

Winseer:
I had a look at taking a job on board a cobelfret ship once…I think you went to sea for weeks at a time…living in a cabin on board the ship.

Blimey, that crew sure had a lucky escape

[franglais]

switchlogic:

Winseer:
I had a look at taking a job on board a cobelfret ship once…I think you went to sea for weeks at a time…living in a cabin on board the ship.

Blimey, that crew sure had a lucky escape

I saved the Royal Navy billions of pounds, by preventing the sinking if one of their ships…
I failed the entrance tests.
Maybe Winseer should write a nice letter to Cobelfret?

[yourhavingalarf]

switchlogic:
Blimey, that crew sure had a lucky escape

…

Lol.

[truckulent]

Franglais:

Truckulent:

Franglais:

yourhavingalarf:

Truckulent:
And secondly, if masks and gloves are so effective, how come the biggest spread of Covid has happened in hospitals and care establishments where the quality of PPE is high and the correct procedures are followed regarding application and removal?

Was your question…

I’ve answered that.

Whether or not you agree with it, I care not.

Maybe a valid question would be
“how effective are using gloves and masks, compared to not using them?”
I wonder how many Doctors and Nurses would volunteer to work on a C19 ward without them, as a control?

Doctors and nurses. Professionals using professional grade equipment correctly.

Unlike folk in the supermarkets with a bit of old scarf tied around their face they keep fiddling with before touching their phones, surfaces in shops, doors conveyor belts.

Sorry, but there is no comparison between professionals using professional grade equipment correctly and dozy shoppers with ill fitting masks made out of old socks they keep fiddling with!!!

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Fair comment
.
Edit.
Or at least it is, as far as it goes.
Agreed that badly used masks are no help.
.
But that doesn’t address your previous comments about their use in hospitals failing to prevent transmission.
Sure their is transmission, but wouldn’t it be worse withour masks? .
Your initial statement is flawed.

We’ll never know as I’m sure no experiment to that effect has been trialled.
But then again the ‘advice’ regarding this ‘new’ virus has changed so much that I doubt any of the experts would be prepared to stake their own lives on their claims.

Nevertheless, wearing a non approved mask incorrectly is going to stop zilch when correctly worn pro PPE wasn’t infallible.

Today I witnessed (out of a sample of 40 I counted) 31people go in and out of Primark.(waiting for the wife) all of whom touched their mask and faces as they entered or left. Most grabbed it by the business part and shoved it in their pockets. Others pulled their masks out of the same pocket they’d just taken the mobile phone from. And this is the great way to stop the virus? Laughable.

And, as all this rages, 0.044% of the UK population have died ‘with’ an illness that 80%+ suffer nothing more than a minor inconvenience from and that, were it not for constant media bombardment the good folk of this country would be utterly unaware of.

The world has truly gone mad.

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[manalishi]

ezydriver:
I went into Tesco on Saturday. After all the “I’m not going to wear a mask” rhetoric I saw leading up to Friday, I felt sure only 50% would be wearing them. So I went in without one, and was surprised to see I was the only one, literally the only one, in the whole store not wearing one. The feelings of disapproval from people’s looks were palpable, and I felt extremely self conscious. I was gravely disappointed in everyone else, as usual. Conversely, I paid for diesel in a busy BP garage last night, a number of people were in there, and only one was wearing a mask.

Did the same here at Ryde Tesco,100% compliance bar myself.Deeply troubling snapshot of our time .Mind you the spirit of Queenie Victoria sill lingers down here,the perfect sheep-colony which is why i guess they trialled those absurd tracking apps here.Bring on Agenda 21 if this is a benchmark of default servility we can expect by decree of those Fauci/Gates/Ferguson demonics.They deserve what’s coming down the pike,oh so,incrementally.

[franglais]

Truckulent:

Franglais:

Truckulent:

Franglais:

yourhavingalarf:

Truckulent:
And secondly, if masks and gloves are so effective, how come the biggest spread of Covid has happened in hospitals and care establishments where the quality of PPE is high and the correct procedures are followed regarding application and removal?

Was your question…

I’ve answered that.

Whether or not you agree with it, I care not.

Maybe a valid question would be
“how effective are using gloves and masks, compared to not using them?”
I wonder how many Doctors and Nurses would volunteer to work on a C19 ward without them, as a control?

Doctors and nurses. Professionals using professional grade equipment correctly.

Unlike folk in the supermarkets with a bit of old scarf tied around their face they keep fiddling with before touching their phones, surfaces in shops, doors conveyor belts.

Sorry, but there is no comparison between professionals using professional grade equipment correctly and dozy shoppers with ill fitting masks made out of old socks they keep fiddling with!!!

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Fair comment
.
Edit.
Or at least it is, as far as it goes.
Agreed that badly used masks are no help.
.
But that doesn’t address your previous comments about their use in hospitals failing to prevent transmission.
Sure their is transmission, but wouldn’t it be worse withour masks? .
Your initial statement is flawed.

We’ll never know as I’m sure no experiment to that effect has been trialled.
But then again the ‘advice’ regarding this ‘new’ virus has changed so much that I doubt any of the experts would be prepared to stake their own lives on their claims.

Nevertheless, wearing a non approved mask incorrectly is going to stop zilch when correctly worn pro PPE wasn’t infallible.

Today I witnessed (out of a sample of 40 I counted) 31people go in and out of Primark.(waiting for the wife) all of whom touched their mask and faces as they entered or left. Most grabbed it by the business part and shoved it in their pockets. Others pulled their masks out of the same pocket they’d just taken the mobile phone from. And this is the great way to stop the virus? Laughable.

And, as all this rages, 0.044% of the UK population have died ‘with’ an illness that 80%+ suffer nothing more than a minor inconvenience from and that, were it not for constant media bombardment the good folk of this country would be utterly unaware of.

The world has truly gone mad.

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No.
You’re mixing up your figures.
0.0whatever% Of the POPULATION have died.
80% of the INFECTED have only minor symptoms.
.
Misleading putting those figures together.
.
About 1% of those infected die. Many more have serious effects, including being in intensive care. Some will have life long effects.
.
Less than 10% of the population have been infected so far.
.

[albion]

I went for several big shops before masks became compulsory, now for the next 2+ months I will pop by the local shop for fresh, 5 mins at most a couple of times a week.

Its nothing to do with civil liberties or conspiracy theories, I just don’t like things over my face, I have long hair but its never down because I wont have hair round my face. It makes sense for me to limit the time I have to wear a mask, or in my case a scarf wrapped round my face. Online shopping has increased for other stuff.

FWIW, a very close friend has a masters in biology, has worked in a scientific field for 30+ years, well respected amongst her peers and also chairs a national panel on body fluids (all of them!) and her opinion is that the pros and cons outweigh each other. She hasn’t been wearing a mask for that reason until it became compulsory.

[the_maoster]

ONS figures released yesterday say that the average daily death rate year upon year is down for the fifth consecutive week.

[winseer]

switchlogic:

Winseer:
I had a look at taking a job on board a cobelfret ship once…I think you went to sea for weeks at a time…living in a cabin on board the ship.

Blimey, that crew sure had a lucky escape

Maybe I did too… There was no mention of if I’d have to double-berth with someone else, but I would imagine that could well have been likely…

If there’s one thing worse than being stuck away from home for weeks at a time, it is being trapped in a “stir-crazy inducing environment” in a place likely to chuck me overboard for being a Jonah…

…Maybe that was taken into account, when I didn’t get a reply eh?

[franglais]

the maoster:
ONS figures released yesterday say that the average daily death rate year upon year is down for the fifth consecutive week.

Good, shows the measures taken about 4 weeks ago were working.

[the_maoster]

What measures were taken four weeks ago?

I find it strange really as Bojo and his cohorts are apparently to blame for everything from the polar ice caps melting to the Nazis finally discovering Anne Franks hiding place that you’d give them some slight credit.

[winseer]

…Ultimately, if you wanna sit down in the big Number 10 address - you’ve got to take the flak that goes with it.

Can you imagine Corbyn as PM? Within 5 minutes, he would have made his entire job about giving speeches, and left the nitty gritty to his henchmen front bench.

Somewhere among them, would have been a momentum stooge doubling up nicely for Heinrich Himmler, who wouldhave ordered the police to look the other way no matter what mayhem took place involving the brownshirt-like momentum thugs there, BLM merely a subsidary to a so-called “movement” that won’t stop even when they’ve won power for their beloved Labour government…

Corbyn, to his credit - didn’t lose last november. Momentum scared off enough Non-Far Left Labour voters to “lend their vote” to Boris instead, just to see the back of Corbyn, and his backwater cronies…

It is bad enough that the moment Boris gets into Number 10, he has a Chancellor that lurches to the left, bringing about an even worse economic collapse, the the most cliffy of cliff-edge Brexits could have remotely done.

Wastes all the money, and I didn’t even get any of it. FFS.

I was up for Corbyn’s “Universal Income” idea. That couldn’t have been any more expensive to imeplement and fully roll-out than this crazy furlough system that sees people paid for no more than ZOMBIE jobs, arguably anyone not back at work by September never going back.

The ones rolling it in - are the firms that agreed to pay the 80%, and have their people still working, but in a rather clandestine manner.
One is supposed to be on gardening leave to claim that money after all, not “working normally”, but now with an 80% top up on TOP of one’s normal wages!