I wonder whether there was time to clean the screen earlier in the day instead of watching Tele in the cab or being paid to snooze.
Whilst i understand the ill feeling for not doing work on the clock there are a lot of es drivers who spend hours on their arse whilst getting paid. If you can’t bday bothered to spend a few minutes cleaning your windscreen unpaid after all the tossing it off your lot do then it’s no wonder you’re told not to clean it.
I thought this thread was a wind up 
stvme2519:
my point of the thread was why should a planner dictate how we keep the vehicle in order…
don’t let the desk jockey DICTATE to you, as HIS name ain’t on YOUR licence! 
Where are you planned out of? I bet it’s Neil Hayes or Paul haydock! 
Why feed the trolls!
what the hell!!
what is wrong with windscreen wipers and press the magic button
no dont tell me the transport planner has personaly removed all the screen wash from the washer bottle
Once they’re dried on, wipers and screen wash just smear them about and make it worse. You need to act fast and clean the screen immediately after every fly impact for this method to work and that uses a lot of screen wash. If you’re lucky, a true professional will scrape the flies off for you with the back of his trailer when he pulls back in after overtaking.
dessy:
Why were you asking the Planner? Just wash the truck and argue after!
I was thinking that myself. Does he phone his planner for permission to take a piddle?
berewic:
dessy:
Why were you asking the Planner? Just wash the truck and argue after!I was thinking that myself. Does he phone his planner for permission to take a piddle?
your asked to keep your planner informed of your progress at all times
SmashedCrabFace:
Once they’re dried on, wipers and screen wash just smear them about and make it worse. You need to act fast and clean the screen immediately after every fly impact for this method to work and that uses a lot of screen wash.
^ This.
As anyone knows who’s driven a car through europe at around 100 mph + in the summer or done a night trunk on a hot summer night when when there’s bugs and moths the size of 747’s flying around.Whatever you do don’t use the wipers and the washers to try to clean the screen because you’ll run out of screen wash in no time and when you do the wipers just spread the resulting mess across the screen in which case you can’t see through it. 
Which is why most continental service stations have buckets of soap and water and window cleaning squeegy scrapers to clean the screen with when you stop for fuel etc. 
berewic:
dessy:
Why were you asking the Planner? Just wash the truck and argue after!I was thinking that myself. Does he phone his planner for permission to take a piddle?
If I’ve read it right he can’t wash the zb truck because not only will his planner stop his wages for doing it they’ve also locked all the wash equipment in the shed so no one can use it except for the truck washer once a week.That’s because they seem to be saying that truck washing isn’t to be part of the truck’s operation at any other time by any one else because it’s got to be rolling or loading/tipping/waiting to be loaded/tipped 24/7 at at all other times 
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As anyone with any sense knows if you’re going to clean the mirrors and the windows properly on the outside then you might as well clean the rest of the thing as well for the few extra minutes it’ll take.But there’s obviously guvnors out there who haven’t got a clue which isn’t the driver’s fault.
Carryfast:
berewic:
dessy:
Why were you asking the Planner? Just wash the truck and argue after!I was thinking that myself. Does he phone his planner for permission to take a piddle?
If I’ve read it right he can’t wash the zb truck because not only will his planner stop his wages for doing it they’ve also locked all the wash equipment in the shed so no one can use it except for the truck washer once a week.That’s because they seem to be saying that truck washing isn’t to be part of the truck’s operation at any other time by any one else because it’s got to be rolling or loading/tipping/waiting to be loaded/tipped 24/7 at at all other times
As anyone with any sense knows if you’re going to clean the mirrors and the windows properly on the outside then you might as well clean the rest of the thing as well for the few extra minutes it’ll take.But there’s obviously guvnors out there who haven’t got a clue which isn’t the driver’s fault.
+1
If I had dead flies splattered and smeared all over my windscreen, I’d clean 'em off and I couldn’t give a ■■■■ what the transport manager or his planner had to say about it. If they sacked me over it, they couldn’t have thought much of me or how I did my job anyway.
I’d try and do 'em for constructive dismissal just to ■■■■ 'em off. If nothing else, it would mean a lot of unnecessary paperwork for 'em.
Let’s face it, how are they going to know unless you told 'em?
Jesus, informing them of your progress is one thing, telling them every detail of every action taken out during every minute of the hour is another.
I never heard the the likes.
berewic:
If I had dead flies splattered and smeared all over my windscreen, I’d clean 'em off and I couldn’t give a [zb] what the transport manager or his planner had to say about it. If they sacked me over it, they couldn’t have thought much of me or how I did my job anyway.
I’d try and do 'em for constructive dismissal just to ■■■■ 'em off. If nothing else, it would mean a lot of unnecessary paperwork for 'em.Let’s face it, how are they going to know unless you told 'em?
Jesus, informing them of your progress is one thing, telling them every detail of every action taken out during every minute of the hour is another.I never heard the the likes.
I think they’re going to ‘know’ at the point where the driver gets so zb’d off with driving a truck that needs a good clean on the outside,including it’s windows and mirrors,that he decides to just ignore all the bs,breaks into the wash shed and gives the wagon a good clean if/when he’s got or finds the time.
I think you’ve missed the bit where the driver doesn’t seem to have any time whatsoever available for doing that though anyway even if the driver was brave enough to take your advice about taking the guvnor on and trusting the employment tribunal to settle a claim in the driver’s favour when the zb hits the fan.
I’m not on about giving the truck a wash, I’m on about cleaning the windscreen so I can see out of it. If flies are spread all over the place 'cos some dork has tried to clear them with the wipers, there’s one hell of a mess.
At the moment, I’m driving a different motor most nights on delivering pallets of newspapers to wholesaler distribution centres. One of the things I drive is a van that whizzes along at well over errr, 50mph.
The first thing I do when I get to my collection point is wet the windscreen down to give the flies a soak. Ten min’s later I’m standing on the wheels scraping the buggers off.
It doesn’t effect or delay anything and I’m happier to be able to see where I’m going.
You know yourself when headlights from oncoming traffic light-up your windscreen at night, your all but blind. 
5 pages and still going strong
(walks out the door laughing his balls off)
stvme2519:
Not once did I say I needed 30 minutes to clean windscreen…my point was we have to justify that time I’m allocated to fuel up get trailer into goods in debrief and just clean windscreen ill be just over the 30 minutes allocated so I was covering my arse cause they won’t pay more than 30 mins for us to log off with out reason…
THIS man is exactly whats wrong with the industry
beatun ya dont know me mate …so how can ya judge off a post i made my initial point was that why should a planner dictate how the motor is kept …but as usual a lot on here jump to things and sprout a load of bollox…i might not of held my licence any way near as a lot of ya on here and ive never took a truck across the water but ive done my fair share in the 10 years ive held my hgv from the ■■■■■ agency jobs doing the multidrop ■■■■ no one wanted to do …to the ■■■■ easy trunk work …and i can hold my own …dont need my hands held …but hey ho one of them aint it lot of ya on here just keyboard warriors …lot on here a decent good lads to …i can assure you mate i can do the job…
stvme2519:
i can assure you mate i can do the job…
no need to prove yourself to me or anyone else, how about you just show a bit of initiative and clean the windows and mirrors as required, I can clean my windscreen in under 2 minutes at a service station, whats the big deal?
Management " You cant wash for windscreen/wagon"
Driver “Heres a receipt for when I took it through the truck wash at insert place here. Before you ask Sir/Madam, I personally didnt clean the windscreen/truck. The washers on site did it for me!”
Job done… move on!!
A properly qualified Transport Manager IE: the ‘O’ license holder would understand that it’s a legal requirement to keep the windscreen, lights, reflectors mirrors markers and number plates clean at all times.
It’s not an argument anyone should be having with office staff it’s the law.
mike68:
It’s not an argument anyone should be having with office staff it’s the law.
law aside, common sense dictates, if your windscreen is dirty, you clean it