anon84679660:
Any driver in this industry getting paid per day or set weekly/monthly salary needs to have his head checked.
^^ this, being hourly paid does make the stupid days a tad more bearable .
anon84679660:
Any driver in this industry getting paid per day or set weekly/monthly salary needs to have his head checked.
Less than 50 hours this week, no stress, + 100 beer tokens that the taxman let’s me have all to myself. And my salary is quite enough at the moment, thank you. I’ll leave the running around like a chicken on coke to those who feel better for chasing the hours.
This is now on to 3 pages and nobody has agreed that maybe drivers are working to many hours. No wonder drivers get treated like they do when they cannot see how many hours workers in other jobs work, drivers come on here saying how long they are waiting at some rdc but all the staff there do 8 hours then go home, same with the office staff at the firms drivers work for 8 hours then home.
Drivers have got to stop thinking it’s right to be working all these hours.
mac12:
This is now on to 3 pages and nobody has agreed that maybe drivers are working to many hours. No wonder drivers get treated like they do when they cannot see how many hours workers in other jobs work, drivers come on here saying how long they are waiting at some rdc but all the staff there do 8 hours then go home, same with the office staff at the firms drivers work for 8 hours then home.
Drivers have got to stop thinking it’s right to be working all these hours.
Do they heck like.
How many 8hr jobs do you think there really are, and doing an 8hr job, what do you think you take home per week?
I’ve done a few driving jobs that are ‘8hr jobs’ (usually 9 because they dock 1hr dinner) and they pay ■■■■, but they are around, so if that’s what the driver wants, then go and get one, but if you get a job as a tramper, you’ve GOT TO expect to be either maxing out your hours, or near to it.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was a salaried tramper, I’d rather be parked up on 12hrs or so, but that’d be unlikely, and as an hourly paid tramper, I’d rather EARN some extra money than be parked up spending it.
waynedl:
mac12:
This is now on to 3 pages and nobody has agreed that maybe drivers are working to many hours. No wonder drivers get treated like they do when they cannot see how many hours workers in other jobs work, drivers come on here saying how long they are waiting at some rdc but all the staff there do 8 hours then go home, same with the office staff at the firms drivers work for 8 hours then home.
Drivers have got to stop thinking it’s right to be working all these hours.Do they heck like.
How many 8hr jobs do you think there really are, and doing an 8hr job, what do you think you take home per week?
I’ve done a few driving jobs that are ‘8hr jobs’ (usually 9 because they dock 1hr dinner) and they pay [zb], but they are around, so if that’s what the driver wants, then go and get one, but if you get a job as a tramper, you’ve GOT TO expect to be either maxing out your hours, or near to it.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was a salaried tramper, I’d rather be parked up on 12hrs or so, but that’d be unlikely, and as an hourly paid tramper, I’d rather EARN some extra money than be parked up spending it.
So going back to the rdc how can the man unloading live on 8 hours per day when the man he’s unloading need to work 12 to 15
mac12:
waynedl:
mac12:
This is now on to 3 pages and nobody has agreed that maybe drivers are working to many hours. No wonder drivers get treated like they do when they cannot see how many hours workers in other jobs work, drivers come on here saying how long they are waiting at some rdc but all the staff there do 8 hours then go home, same with the office staff at the firms drivers work for 8 hours then home.
Drivers have got to stop thinking it’s right to be working all these hours.Do they heck like.
How many 8hr jobs do you think there really are, and doing an 8hr job, what do you think you take home per week?
I’ve done a few driving jobs that are ‘8hr jobs’ (usually 9 because they dock 1hr dinner) and they pay [zb], but they are around, so if that’s what the driver wants, then go and get one, but if you get a job as a tramper, you’ve GOT TO expect to be either maxing out your hours, or near to it.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was a salaried tramper, I’d rather be parked up on 12hrs or so, but that’d be unlikely, and as an hourly paid tramper, I’d rather EARN some extra money than be parked up spending it.
So going back to the rdc how can the man unloading live on 8 hours per day when the man he’s unloading need to work 12 to 15
Do you rreally need this pointing out?
Yes please point out why a forklift driver can live on 40 hours per week but a truck driver cannot.
mac12:
waynedl:
mac12:
This is now on to 3 pages and nobody has agreed that maybe drivers are working to many hours. No wonder drivers get treated like they do when they cannot see how many hours workers in other jobs work, drivers come on here saying how long they are waiting at some rdc but all the staff there do 8 hours then go home, same with the office staff at the firms drivers work for 8 hours then home.
Drivers have got to stop thinking it’s right to be working all these hours.Do they heck like.
How many 8hr jobs do you think there really are, and doing an 8hr job, what do you think you take home per week?
I’ve done a few driving jobs that are ‘8hr jobs’ (usually 9 because they dock 1hr dinner) and they pay [zb], but they are around, so if that’s what the driver wants, then go and get one, but if you get a job as a tramper, you’ve GOT TO expect to be either maxing out your hours, or near to it.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was a salaried tramper, I’d rather be parked up on 12hrs or so, but that’d be unlikely, and as an hourly paid tramper, I’d rather EARN some extra money than be parked up spending it.
So going back to the rdc how can the man unloading live on 8 hours per day when the man he’s unloading need to work 12 to 15
It’s not about being able to live, it’s a standard of living.
My p60 for last year was around 27,000, and night out money isn’t on that, and I only work 3/4 of a year because I’m a lazy moody bugger.
Ask a forky what his P60 was…
Now, I only live in a 2 up 2 down terraced house, I drive an old car and have 2 old motorbikes, my missus has a horse, we have a house in Bulgaria and a tourer caravan, we also go out for meals and have holidays and enjoy life.
I was working for Calor Gas a while back, that was basic hours and paid around the 18k mark…
See the difference?
anon84679660:
Any driver in this industry getting paid per day or set weekly/monthly salary needs to have his head checked.
Not allways.
I worked 8 years on a nightshift that was salaried for 10 hours per night. Never did I once work longer than 6 hours and it was a great feeling laying in bed at home knowing you was still getting paid!
After that job I did another one that involved working on Runway resurfacing. Again was paid 10 hours per nightshift but was usually finished around the 8 hour mark.
These plum jobs are around but unless you know somebody who works them you will NEVER find these jobs in jobcenters etc.
mac12:
Yes please point out why a forklift driver can live on 40 hours per week but a truck driver cannot.
Ask an Asda warehouse guy that’s been there less than a year and they’ll tell you they’ll make less than £15k if they do their full 40 hours every week 52 weeks a year. But are they living in the manner they want? I’m not, which is why I’m looking to change jobs and make a better lifestyle for myself.
waynedl:
mac12:
waynedl:
mac12:
This is now on to 3 pages and nobody has agreed that maybe drivers are working to many hours. No wonder drivers get treated like they do when they cannot see how many hours workers in other jobs work, drivers come on here saying how long they are waiting at some rdc but all the staff there do 8 hours then go home, same with the office staff at the firms drivers work for 8 hours then home.
Drivers have got to stop thinking it’s right to be working all these hours.Do they heck like.
How many 8hr jobs do you think there really are, and doing an 8hr job, what do you think you take home per week?
I’ve done a few driving jobs that are ‘8hr jobs’ (usually 9 because they dock 1hr dinner) and they pay [zb], but they are around, so if that’s what the driver wants, then go and get one, but if you get a job as a tramper, you’ve GOT TO expect to be either maxing out your hours, or near to it.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was a salaried tramper, I’d rather be parked up on 12hrs or so, but that’d be unlikely, and as an hourly paid tramper, I’d rather EARN some extra money than be parked up spending it.
So going back to the rdc how can the man unloading live on 8 hours per day when the man he’s unloading need to work 12 to 15
It’s not about being able to live, it’s a standard of living.
My p60 for last year was around 27,000, and night out money isn’t on that, and I only work 3/4 of a year because I’m a lazy moody bugger.
Ask a forky what his P60 was…
Now, I only live in a 2 up 2 down terraced house, I drive an old car and have 2 old motorbikes, my missus has a horse, we have a house in Bulgaria and a tourer caravan, we also go out for meals and have holidays and enjoy life.
I was working for Calor Gas a while back, that was basic hours and paid around the 18k mark…
See the difference?
You have to work the hours to get £27000 he works maybe half the hours for maybe half the pay but he’s home every night so has more life to enjoy unlike you, but he still has a house, car, phone so is it more how you manage you money against him. I work with a man who pays £62 a month for his phone I pay £15 but we both earn the same.
Trevster:
mac12:
Yes please point out why a forklift driver can live on 40 hours per week but a truck driver cannot.Ask an Asda warehouse guy that’s been there less than a year and they’ll tell you they’ll make less than £15k if they do their full 40 hours every week 52 weeks a year. But are they living in the manner they want? I’m not, which is why I’m looking to change jobs and make a better lifestyle for myself.
What happens after one year? What job are you doing now and why do you think changing jobs will give you a better lifestyle?
This industry will never change as long as we have this prehistoric approach to working hours, look at me I’ve got all these hours in…yeah worked double what normal people work for same money!!before the diesel tank polishers start saying ‘need to do em to make it pay’ get another job with a decent firm that doesn’t take the pis$.
I was a forkie/yard man back in the day. I was on £80 for a 9 1/2 day.
I cut my cloth to suit my paltry wages.
I can now earn more money. But I have to work more hours. Who knew?
I just don’t get it when a driver says they are working too many hours. Get a different job that has less hours! But be prepared to have a drop in wages.
It is really quite simple. It does not matter what industry you work in, or what your role in that industry is, the harder you work, the more you earn.
People’s definition of harder, differ, but in transport harder generally means more hours.
Yes a cleaner can earn 30k, but I would hazard a guess, they would have to scape a lot of ■■■■■ out of a lot of plug holes to do it!
mac12:
waynedl:
mac12:
waynedl:
mac12:
This is now on to 3 pages and nobody has agreed that maybe drivers are working to many hours. No wonder drivers get treated like they do when they cannot see how many hours workers in other jobs work, drivers come on here saying how long they are waiting at some rdc but all the staff there do 8 hours then go home, same with the office staff at the firms drivers work for 8 hours then home.
Drivers have got to stop thinking it’s right to be working all these hours.Do they heck like.
How many 8hr jobs do you think there really are, and doing an 8hr job, what do you think you take home per week?
I’ve done a few driving jobs that are ‘8hr jobs’ (usually 9 because they dock 1hr dinner) and they pay [zb], but they are around, so if that’s what the driver wants, then go and get one, but if you get a job as a tramper, you’ve GOT TO expect to be either maxing out your hours, or near to it.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was a salaried tramper, I’d rather be parked up on 12hrs or so, but that’d be unlikely, and as an hourly paid tramper, I’d rather EARN some extra money than be parked up spending it.
So going back to the rdc how can the man unloading live on 8 hours per day when the man he’s unloading need to work 12 to 15
It’s not about being able to live, it’s a standard of living.
My p60 for last year was around 27,000, and night out money isn’t on that, and I only work 3/4 of a year because I’m a lazy moody bugger.
Ask a forky what his P60 was…
Now, I only live in a 2 up 2 down terraced house, I drive an old car and have 2 old motorbikes, my missus has a horse, we have a house in Bulgaria and a tourer caravan, we also go out for meals and have holidays and enjoy life.
I was working for Calor Gas a while back, that was basic hours and paid around the 18k mark…
See the difference?
You have to work the hours to get £27000 he works maybe half the hours for maybe half the pay but he’s home every night so has more life to enjoy unlike you, but he still has a house, car, phone so is it more how you manage you money against him. I work with a man who pays £62 a month for his phone I pay £15 but we both earn the same.
Depends on what the other half does etc.
For me, when I’m tramping, I put the hours in Mon - Fri, don’t work weekends and make sure me and the missus have a good time at weekends.
When I’m on short hours work, I have to tighten my belt, sure it’s still a good life, but in a different way.
Bradford1978:
This industry will never change as long as we have this prehistoric approach to working hours, look at me I’ve got all these hours in…yeah worked double what normal people work for same money!!before the diesel tank polishers start saying ‘need to do em to make it pay’ get another job with a decent firm that doesn’t take the pis$.
Who, with the same level of intelligence and training and skills, gets the same money as we do for 1/2 the hours??
If you can be a doctor, MP, lawyer etc, go and do that, but for most HGV driving is either a choice or it’s what they can do
We seemed to have got away from the fact that, post DCPC, we have a driver here with what appears, at least before Rog sorted him out, to be very little idea of a basic requirement to work legally in this industry. How & why does that happen?
BillyHunt:
We seemed to have got away from the fact that, post DCPC, we have a driver here with what appears, at least before Rog sorted him out, to be very little idea of a basic requirement to work legally in this industry. How & why does that happen?
Because they don’t listen?
They don’t care enough to learn the rules of their profession?
They’re ignorant or stupid??
Many reasons, and it’s why I’m against the dCPC, it forces people like me, you, Rog, tacho et al to go and sit in a classroom and get bored to tears by someone who definitely knows LESS than we do, and sometimes they give out incorrect information too.
Then you’ve got people like the OP and LOTS OF OTHERS who just don’t give a ■■■■, so they’ll sit in the room, not listen, not learn, break the rules, and whinge and moan about the VOSTAPO making them pay to go to work etc.
We as truck drivers earn our crust by the number of and/or unsociable hours we put in. Very, very few driving jobs pay decent money for 40-50 hours Mon-Fri days. If you want to earn decent money, you have to be prepared to work long hours and maybe tramp. If you don’t want to work long hours, you have to be prepared to work your weekends or night shifts so you can top you pay up with premiums. Thats the reality.
I chose the night shift option because it currently suits me. My next line of attack, unless I could afford to drop money, would probably be grafting away on Class 2 multi drop like Brakes. Anything but work 60/70 hour weeks.
mac12:
What happens after one year? What job are you doing now and why do you think changing jobs will give you a better lifestyle?
Fractionally better wage although still not much above the NMW. I’m currently with them as a Home Shopping driver, same money (<£7ph) but enjoy the driving so looking to stick with it but in a better paid environment. Not afraid of long hours (within the regs!) so happy to move over into bigger motors