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Carryfast:
I didn’t say that we shouldn’t also repatriate many of the other relatively recent east european immigrant communities who certainly are white unless you know better.It’s just that your statement was that to do so the indigenous population would also have to repatriate itself :open_mouth: :laughing: to the relatively local parts of northern and western europe wherever it originated from over a period of thousands of years.Although it doesn’t take a genius to realise that the country’s main ethnic population alienation problems understandably involve the ethnic immigrant African and Asian immigrant populations living here.IE there’s not much point in sending troops to deal with a so called terrorist threat overseas when the problem actually involves those living here who obviously find the nation’s ethnic identity and culture alien to it. :unamused:

While the fact is it’s more a case that it’s those with your raving socialist reverse racist views who’ve got the problem.Such as seeing no double standards in the idea of removing the ethnic european African rights to hold power in South Africa and Rhodesia because they are ‘white’ while also viewing the idea of an ethnic African president of the USA a good thing because he’s black.It’s no surprise that you’d view anyone who stands against your bs socialist principles as unpleasant.

At risk of appearing to take such an odious little man seriously, why are you suddenly banging on about terrorism? And since when has terrorism been the sole preserve of black people: do you not remember the IRA? And if you’re going to start repatriating white immigrants to Britain, where do you stop? And, for the last time, stop telling me what a socialist I am: I’m no such thing. Still, well done for getting all your current buzzwords into one sentence.
It’s not that I view anyone who holds opposing views from me as “unpleasant”: I can engage in intelligent and civilized debate with someone who disagrees with me entirely. But you’re never going to convince me that you’re anything other than a rather stupid and deeply unpleasant individual as long as you continue to spout your “send 'em all back” rhetoric.

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Rhythm Thief:

Carryfast:
I didn’t say that we shouldn’t also repatriate many of the other relatively recent east european immigrant communities who certainly are white unless you know better.It’s just that your statement was that to do so the indigenous population would also have to repatriate itself :open_mouth: :laughing: to the relatively local parts of northern and western europe wherever it originated from over a period of thousands of years.Although it doesn’t take a genius to realise that the country’s main ethnic population alienation problems understandably involve the ethnic immigrant African and Asian immigrant populations living here.IE there’s not much point in sending troops to deal with a so called terrorist threat overseas when the problem actually involves those living here who obviously find the nation’s ethnic identity and culture alien to it. :unamused:

While the fact is it’s more a case that it’s those with your raving socialist reverse racist views who’ve got the problem.Such as seeing no double standards in the idea of removing the ethnic european African rights to hold power in South Africa and Rhodesia because they are ‘white’ while also viewing the idea of an ethnic African president of the USA a good thing because he’s black.It’s no surprise that you’d view anyone who stands against your bs socialist principles as unpleasant.

At risk of appearing to take such an odious little man seriously, why are you suddenly banging on about terrorism? And since when has terrorism been the sole preserve of black people: do you not remember the IRA? And if you’re going to start repatriating white immigrants to Britain, where do you stop? And, for the last time, stop telling me what a socialist I am: I’m no such thing. Still, well done for getting all your current buzzwords into one sentence.
It’s not that I view anyone who holds opposing views from me as “unpleasant”: I can engage in intelligent and civilized debate with someone who disagrees with me entirely. But you’re never going to convince me that you’re anything other than a rather stupid and deeply unpleasant individual as long as you continue to spout your “send 'em all back” rhetoric.

If you really must raise the issue of the IRA v the ANC they were/are actually as bad as each other.

Ironically assuming that you don’t support the aims and the methods of the IRA,then you logically must support the Irish Republic’s and the UK government’s position in that the provisional IRA was a terrorist organisation that was against the ( correct ) system of apartheid,which the UK government agreed with Michael Collins to settle the Irish problem of two opposing factions one loyal to the UK and one loyal to an independent Ireland,by way of partition.I should know because I’m partly descended from a Catholic Irish ancestors,who having supported the Collins settlement then ended up on the wrong side of the border and the last breadwinner of that family,having lost the father to illness previously and with a terminally ill mother,having then been shot by the British forces at the age of 16 before they could move to the right side of the border.The result being that the family was then broken up mostly being taken to America by some distant relatives with the exception of my Grandmother who was brought here.Maybe now you’ll undertstand why I support the idea of apartheid and/or repatriation wherever possible when dealing with the issue of incompatible populations.Regardless of colour.

While you’ve made your typically reverse racist socialist ideals clear,both by reference to the wrong idea that I think it’s all about colour,and in thinking that I give a zb about convincing you that Mandela was just a typical raving revolutionary socialist who’d resorted to terrorism to try to oppose a system that was put in place to stop ethnic violence.Just like the IRA.

While if you really think that South Africa stands a chance of avoiding a violent future in the long term with the over throw of apartheid,just imagine what would have happened in Ireland if Michael Collins hadn’t have sorted out that agreement of partition and apartheid to ( try to ) end the ongoing troubles in the place.Just like in Yugoslavia I think that type of settlement saved more lives than your obvious ideas in supporting a terrorist group and it’s former leader who’ve taken down one of the last lines of defence against that happening now in South Africa considering the level of incompatibility between the two different ethnic populations.In this case colour just being one of the identifying factors of that obvious incompatibility unlike in Ireland and Yugoslavia,where that incompatibilty was/is just as bad regardless of colour.

My point is the differences in the issue of using apartheid or repatriation in the case of Ireland,Yugoslavia and Israel,to sort out those issues,being understood and used happily by all parties in the case of all white populations.But not in the case of those involving different colour.You obviously being one of those who supports that inconsistency obviously,unlike me,because it’s you who thinks it’s all about colour.Who’s calling who a racist now.

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Carryfast:

switchlogic:
Bit like your tactic of questioning the intelligence of anyone who doesn’t agree with you then eh?

Ironically the only bit that Horowitz has got wrong is that he credits the raving radical left wing followers who haven’t had the sense to see it for what it is,as opposed to it’s leaders in the case of tactical knowledge concerning either terrorism in the case of Mandela,or infiltration in the case of the western powers’ regimes,with more intelligence than they deserve.

While your predictable bs comments seem to be everything that I can remember about the way in which the left used to try to make their point because they weren’t bright enough to make any decent arguments to back their ideology.

Why would I make any arguments to back an ideology that isn’t mine? Its all just your idiotic childish assumptions, nothing more nothing less. There’s only one brainwashed drone lacking intelligence on this thread, and it isn’t me.

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switchlogic:

Carryfast:

switchlogic:
Bit like your tactic of questioning the intelligence of anyone who doesn’t agree with you then eh?

Ironically the only bit that Horowitz has got wrong is that he credits the raving radical left wing followers who haven’t had the sense to see it for what it is,as opposed to it’s leaders in the case of tactical knowledge concerning either terrorism in the case of Mandela,or infiltration in the case of the western powers’ regimes,with more intelligence than they deserve.

While your predictable bs comments seem to be everything that I can remember about the way in which the left used to try to make their point because they weren’t bright enough to make any decent arguments to back their ideology.

Why would I make any arguments to back an ideology that isn’t mine? Its all just your idiotic childish assumptions, nothing more nothing less. There’s only one brainwashed drone lacking intelligence on this thread, and it isn’t me.

So are you saying that Mandela and the ANC and all of it’s supporters are right or are you saying that they were/are wrong in taking down apartheid in South Africa.Also are you saying that I’m wrong in saying that now it’s gone the only sensible answer to avoid further ethnic violence there in the long term is to repatriate the ethnic European African population and by the same yardstick the ethnic African population here should be repatriated too. ?.If the answer is that you think they were/are right and I’m wrong on all those counts then if the cap fits wear it.

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Carryfast:
If you really must raise the issue of the IRA v the ANC they were/are actually as bad as each other.

Ironically assuming that you don’t support the aims and the methods of the IRA,then you logically must support the Irish Republic’s and the UK government’s position in that the provisional IRA was a terrorist organisation that was against the ( correct ) system of apartheid,which the UK government agreed with Michael Collins to settle the Irish problem of two opposing factions one loyal to the UK and one loyal to an independent Ireland,by way of partition.I should know because I’m partly descended from a Catholic Irish ancestors,who having supported the Collins settlement then ended up on the wrong side of the border and the last breadwinner of that family,having lost the father to illness previously and with a terminally ill mother,having then been shot by the British forces at the age of 16 before they could move to the right side of the border.The result being that the family was then broken up mostly being taken to America by some distant relatives with the exception of my Grandmother who was brought here.Maybe now you’ll undertstand why I support the idea of apartheid and/or repatriation wherever possible when dealing with the issue of incompatible populations.Regardless of colour.

Presumably including your own family, and indeed yourself.

Carryfast:
While you’ve made your typically reverse racist socialist ideals clear,both by reference to the wrong idea that I think it’s all about colour,and in thinking that I give a zb about convincing you that Mandela was just a typical raving revolutionary socialist who’d resorted to terrorism to try to oppose a system that was put in place to stop ethnic violence.Just like the IRA.

You really are as clueless as your posts make you out to be, as well as being a small - minded racist bigot. Mandela “resorted to terrorism to try to oppose a system that was put in place to stop ethnic violence” did he? That’d be apartheid, then, which was arguably responsible for more racial tension than anything else ever. You want to tell us that segregation in the USA was a good thing, too? And that we should introduce it here?

Carryfast:
While if you really think that South Africa stands a chance of avoiding a violent future in the long term with the over throw of apartheid,just imagine what would have happened in Ireland if Michael Collins hadn’t have sorted out that agreement of partition and apartheid to ( try to ) end the ongoing troubles in the place.Just like in Yugoslavia I think that type of settlement saved more lives than your obvious ideas in supporting a terrorist group and it’s former leader who’ve taken down one of the last lines of defence against that happening now in South Africa considering the level of incompatibility between the two different ethnic populations.In this case colour just being one of the identifying factors of that obvious incompatibility unlike in Ireland and Yugoslavia,where that incompatibilty was/is just as bad regardless of colour.

My point is the differences in the issue of using apartheid or repatriation in the case of Ireland,Yugoslavia and Israel,to sort out those issues,being understood and used happily by all parties in the case of all white populations.But not in the case of those involving different colour.You obviously being one of those who supports that inconsistency obviously,unlike me,because it’s you who thinks it’s all about colour.Who’s calling who a racist now.

Racism isn’t all about colour, you prize plank.You are a racist - and a spectacularly unintelligent one - because you’re apparently willing not only to judge people purely on the basis of their race and/or nationality, but also to be inexplicably proud of so doing.

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Carryfast aint racist he likes desmond decker.
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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Rhythm Thief:

Carryfast:
If you really must raise the issue of the IRA v the ANC they were/are actually as bad as each other.

Ironically assuming that you don’t support the aims and the methods of the IRA,then you logically must support the Irish Republic’s and the UK government’s position in that the provisional IRA was a terrorist organisation that was against the ( correct ) system of apartheid,which the UK government agreed with Michael Collins to settle the Irish problem of two opposing factions one loyal to the UK and one loyal to an independent Ireland,by way of partition.I should know because I’m partly descended from a Catholic Irish ancestors,who having supported the Collins settlement then ended up on the wrong side of the border and the last breadwinner of that family,having lost the father to illness previously and with a terminally ill mother,having then been shot by the British forces at the age of 16 before they could move to the right side of the border.The result being that the family was then broken up mostly being taken to America by some distant relatives with the exception of my Grandmother who was brought here.Maybe now you’ll undertstand why I support the idea of apartheid and/or repatriation wherever possible when dealing with the issue of incompatible populations.Regardless of colour.

Presumably including your own family, and indeed yourself.

[qoute=“Carryfast”]While you’ve made your typically reverse racist socialist ideals clear,both by reference to the wrong idea that I think it’s all about colour,and in thinking that I give a zb about convincing you that Mandela was just a typical raving revolutionary socialist who’d resorted to terrorism to try to oppose a system that was put in place to stop ethnic violence.Just like the IRA.

You really are as clueless as your posts make you out to be, as well as being a small - minded racist bigot. Mandela “resorted to terrorism to try to oppose a system that was put in place to stop ethnic violence” did he? That’d be apartheid, then, which was arguably responsible for more racial tension than anything else ever. You want to tell us that segregation in the USA was a good thing, too? And that we should introduce it here?

Carryfast:
While if you really think that South Africa stands a chance of avoiding a violent future in the long term with the over throw of apartheid,just imagine what would have happened in Ireland if Michael Collins hadn’t have sorted out that agreement of partition and apartheid to ( try to ) end the ongoing troubles in the place.Just like in Yugoslavia I think that type of settlement saved more lives than your obvious ideas in supporting a terrorist group and it’s former leader who’ve taken down one of the last lines of defence against that happening now in South Africa considering the level of incompatibility between the two different ethnic populations.In this case colour just being one of the identifying factors of that obvious incompatibility unlike in Ireland and Yugoslavia,where that incompatibilty was/is just as bad regardless of colour.

My point is the differences in the issue of using apartheid or repatriation in the case of Ireland,Yugoslavia and Israel,to sort out those issues,being understood and used happily by all parties in the case of all white populations.But not in the case of those involving different colour.You obviously being one of those who supports that inconsistency obviously,unlike me,because it’s you who thinks it’s all about colour.Who’s calling who a racist now.

Racism isn’t all about colour, you prize plank.You are a racist - and a spectacularly unintelligent one - because you’re apparently willing not only to judge people purely on the basis of their race and/or nationality, but also to be inexplicably proud of so doing.
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Yet more typically raving socialist bs from you.With all your insults you’ve still not answered the question concerning the inconsistency between the ( correct ) policy of seperation of incompatible cultures being seen as the correct method of dealing with the issues in the case of places like Yugoslavia and Ireland.But then that all changes in your zb’d up view of the world in the case of apartheid in Places like South Africa.

Maybe you could also explain how you’ve reached the conclusion and how,from what I’ve said,concerning history proving that seperation of different cultures being safer and better for all concerned,gets twisted round in your obviously raving socialist thought process,into me supposedly judging people on the basis of their nationality. :unamused:

The fact is I’m not judging anyone history is doing that not me.The idea of forcing integration on different cultures and/or ethnic groups as in this case can’t work and sooner or later costs lives in just the same way that it did in the former Yugoslavia and would have done if Ireland hadn’t been partitioned.If you can’t see that then just as Horowitz says you fit perfectly into the description of a raving socialist zb who isn’t prepared to use the lessons of the past to judge the future.As for ‘myself’ how does the issue of repatriation or apartheid apply in the case of me being only ‘partly’ of Irish descent and even that small part being of that which actually agreed with the Country of which I’m mostly ethnically related to.That agreement of course being one of seperation and partition to at least make a positive contribution to the Irish problem.

In this case the only so called ‘racial tension’ which apartheid caused was the ‘tension’ which the socialist zb’s like you and terrorists like Mandela wanted it to cause.You’ve got what you obviously wanted in South Africa and this is the result.It seems like about as tense as racial tension gets to me and it’s probably only just the start and tip of the iceberg.As for segregation in the Southern States like Ireland it wasn’t all one sided and the idea was to protect both sides from the worst aspects of each other and if we’d have had it here then at least drummer Rigby would still be alive you ignorant socialist ■■■■■■. :unamused:

genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

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kr79:
Carryfast aint racist he likes desmond decker.
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

According to the socialists he was obviously as racist as I’m accused of being. :unamused:

Motown is good too.Especially the one on the right. :smiling_imp: :wink: :smiley:

youtube.com/watch?v=V8tDhAPSk5Y

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Carryfast:
In this case the only so called ‘racial tension’ which apartheid caused was the ‘tension’ which the socialist zb’s like you and terrorists like Mandela wanted it to cause.You’ve got what you obviously wanted in South Africa and this is the result.It seems like about as tense as racial tension gets to me and it’s probably only just the start and tip of the iceberg.As for segregation in the Southern States like Ireland it wasn’t all one sided and the idea was to protect both sides from the worst aspects of each other and if we’d have had it here then at least drummer Rigby would still be alive you ignorant socialist ■■■■■■. :unamused:

genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

Segregation in the Southern states of the US was not all one sided. Brilliant. Have you put forward this theory to any black people? If you can bear to go near any, that is.

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Carryfast:

kr79:
Carryfast aint racist he likes desmond decker.
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

According to the socialists he was obviously as racist as I’m accused of being. :unamused:

Motown is good too.Especially the one on the right. :smiling_imp: :wink: :smiley:

youtube.com/watch?v=V8tDhAPSk5Y

You are racist, you ■■■■ nut. Whether you like it or not, your posts show you to be a nasty small minded bigoted racist moron. As long as you keep posting evidence of this I have no choice but to point it out. If it’s not accurate, then at least it’s no less accurate than you continually calling me a raving socialist [zb].

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Rhythm Thief:

Carryfast:
In this case the only so called ‘racial tension’ which apartheid caused was the ‘tension’ which the socialist zb’s like you and terrorists like Mandela wanted it to cause.You’ve got what you obviously wanted in South Africa and this is the result.It seems like about as tense as racial tension gets to me and it’s probably only just the start and tip of the iceberg.As for segregation in the Southern States like Ireland it wasn’t all one sided and the idea was to protect both sides from the worst aspects of each other and if we’d have had it here then at least drummer Rigby would still be alive you ignorant socialist ■■■■■■. :unamused:

genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

Segregation in the Southern states of the US was not all one sided. Brilliant. Have you put forward this theory to any black people? If you can bear to go near any, that is.

I don’t need to ask anyone anything.You’re trying to argue with history and it’s not on your side.You’re trying to make the case for ethnic integration between incompatible populations on some biased bs idea that black always = good while white always = bad.

As I’ve said the situation,concerning that inconsistency,between the idea of no one having any problem in the case of segregation being used to bring peace in Yugoslavia and Ireland,while that’s not seen as being an option in South Africa ,or the former Confederate States of America,is glaringly obvious.For obvious reverse racist reasons as shown by your bs ideas.Just like is being proved in South Africa now the policy of segregation in the Southern States was based on good reasons concerning violence of different types committed by both different ethnic groups against each other not to mention the simple issue that every ethnic group has the right to maintain it’s own identity.Just as was the case in Yugoslavia and Ireland.Maybe you should tell the populations of those places that things would be much better if the policy of partition and segregation,which brought relative peace,was reversed and then when you’ve done it tell the same thing to ethnic european African populations of South Africa and the former Rhodesia.Basically your continuing raving accusations of racism,concerning my reasoned objective arguments,are just typical idealistic dictatorial bs of the type which I’m familiar with,like Horowitz,having actually spent a small amount of time being part of the socialist cause and then rejected it as the dangerous ideology which it really is.

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Rhythm Thief:

Carryfast:

kr79:
Carryfast aint racist he likes desmond decker.
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

According to the socialists he was obviously as racist as I’m accused of being. :unamused:

Motown is good too.Especially the one on the right. :smiling_imp: :wink: :smiley:

youtube.com/watch?v=V8tDhAPSk5Y

You are racist, you [zb] nut. Whether you like it or not, your posts show you to be a nasty small minded bigoted racist moron. As long as you keep posting evidence of this I have no choice but to point it out. If it’s not accurate, then at least it’s no less accurate than you continually calling me a raving socialist [zb].

As I said the more raving zb you post the more it shows just how dangerous allowing the socialist ideology to take hold,as it’s being allowed to do now amongst the governments of the western world,really is.

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Carryfast:
I don’t need to ask anyone anything.You’re trying to argue with history and it’s not on your side.You’re trying to make the case for ethnic integration between incompatible populations on some biased bs idea that black always = good while white always = bad.

Ah, now I see what the problem is. You’re not actually reading anything I’ve written. At no point have I said that “black always = good while white always = bad.” There’s good and bad in all ethnic groups.
Your argument for compulsory repatriation of “incompatible populations” falls flat on its arse as soon as you start to think about it, which is a thing I’m fairly certain you’ve never done. Where are they going to go, these incompatible ethnics? How are you going to make a British black man, who was born in Britain to 3rd generation immigrants and has married a white woman, had children and brought them up as British, go “back to Africa”? Are you going to tell him he’s incompatible with his wife and the other whites in this country, or are you going to leave that to the government? What’s he going to do in Africa? Will his wife and children be allowed to visit him, or are they too ethnically incompatible even to be permitted visiting rights? Who’s going to do his job when he goes? Are Asians also to be repatriated? People with one black parent? Malaysians? Chinese? Icelanders?
Once you start to think about your ideas (such as they are) you can see them for the truly objectionable bilge that they are. You can validate them all you like by dismissing anyone who disagrees with you as a raving socialist and only ever looking at websites which propagate the same small minded hateful views, but ultimately you’re nothing but an unintelligent racist.
It may surprise you to learn, by the way, that it’s not even an original idea: Hitler proposed something remarkably similar. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum, then come back and tell me how your ideas are any different.

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kr79:
Carryfast aint racist he likes desmond decker.
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

So do I … the difference is I’d be happy to eat in the same restaurant as him. :wink:

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Carryfast:
As I’ve said the situation,concerning that inconsistency,between the idea of no one having any problem in the case of segregation being used to bring peace in Yugoslavia and Ireland,while that’s not seen as being an option in South Africa ,or the former Confederate States of America,is glaringly obvious.For obvious reverse racist reasons as shown by your bs ideas.**Just like is being proved in South Africa now the policy of segregation in the Southern States was based on good reasons concerning violence of different types committed by both different ethnic groups against each other not to mention the simple issue that every ethnic group has the right to maintain it’s own identity.**Just as was the case in Yugoslavia and Ireland.Maybe you should tell the populations of those places that things would be much better if the policy of partition and segregation,which brought relative peace,was reversed and then when you’ve done it tell the same thing to ethnic european African populations of South Africa and the former Rhodesia.Basically your continuing raving accusations of racism,concerning my reasoned objective arguments,are just typical idealistic dictatorial bs of the type which I’m familiar with,like Horowitz,having actually spent a small amount of time being part of the socialist cause and then rejected it as the dangerous ideology which it really is.

CF, old horse, I don;t know where you’ve picked up that little snippet of misinformation from, but it’s not true. Not at all. I’m not taking the ■■■■ now, but I might have been wrong about you being actively racist: if you genuinely believe that “the policy of segregation in the Southern States was based on good reasons concerning violence of different types committed by both different ethnic groups against each other”, it’s just possible your whole argument is based on stupidity and ignorance rather than maliciousness.
Don’t fall into the trap of believing that segregation (and apartheid, come to that) was about anything other than the white overlords maintaining the supposed purity of their race while keeping the blacks in their place. There was never any benefit to the black race in either segregation or apartheid, and neither was their intended to be. Black only cafes, swimming pools, hotels, restaurants … you name it, they were inferior to the equivalent white - only facilities. This was not an accident. I’d be interested to see a link to your source of information about segregation, because what you’ve said above is just wrong.

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Rhythm Thief:

Carryfast:
I don’t need to ask anyone anything.You’re trying to argue with history and it’s not on your side.You’re trying to make the case for ethnic integration between incompatible populations on some biased bs idea that black always = good while white always = bad.

Ah, now I see what the problem is. You’re not actually reading anything I’ve written. At no point have I said that “black always = good while white always = bad.” There’s good and bad in all ethnic groups.
Your argument for compulsory repatriation of “incompatible populations” falls flat on its arse as soon as you start to think about it, which is a thing I’m fairly certain you’ve never done. Where are they going to go, these incompatible ethnics? How are you going to make a British black man, who was born in Britain to 3rd generation immigrants and has married a white woman, had children and brought them up as British, go “back to Africa”? Are you going to tell him he’s incompatible with his wife and the other whites in this country, or are you going to leave that to the government? What’s he going to do in Africa? Will his wife and children be allowed to visit him, or are they too ethnically incompatible even to be permitted visiting rights? Who’s going to do his job when he goes? Are Asians also to be repatriated? People with one black parent? Malaysians? Chinese? Icelanders?
Once you start to think about your ideas (such as they are) you can see them for the truly objectionable bilge that they are. You can validate them all you like by dismissing anyone who disagrees with you as a raving socialist and only ever looking at websites which propagate the same small minded hateful views, but ultimately you’re nothing but an unintelligent racist.
It may surprise you to learn, by the way, that it’s not even an original idea: Hitler proposed something remarkably similar. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum, then come back and tell me how your ideas are any different.

Yet more biased bs.You seem to be applying double standards in the case of happily supporting a system of effectively making multi generation ethnic European African’s effectively have to move out one way or another wether it be by forced removal from their farms without compensation in the case of ‘land re distribution’ based on ethnicity,while you’re asking for different rules to be applied to ethnic Africans living outside of Africa like here.It’s obvious that under that reverse racist system those ethnic european Africans are effectively in the position of being made stateless anyway under threat of violence and murder if they don’t comply.In which case the only safe alternative is to re patriate them.There’s absolutely no way that you can then justify the continuing rights of ethnic Africans to live here unless,as I’ve said,you’re just a typical socialist hypocrite trying to justify a reverse racist agenda.As for mixed marriages involving indigenous women and ethnic Africans etc they’ll just have to put up with becoming a part of the foreign culture they’ve chosen to marry into.Such as in this case I don’t think the indigenous population needs to give a zb about that situation.While the issue obviously could never have arisen under the type of regimes as existed in South Africa and the Confederate States of America.Which in this case at least might have saved the woman’s family from having to lose her to such a culture and the lives that have been lost because of such a raving socialist integrationist and reverse racist policy.

mirror.co.uk/news/world-news … ya-2920987

As for Hitler his policies were closer to those of the ANC and Mugabe’s regime as being applied to the ethnic European African population in South Africa and Rhodesia IE intimidation,violence and murder based on ethnicity.Not one of segregation which was there to prevent that situation and recognises the differences between the different ethnic populations which apartheid was there to provide.You’ve made your views more than clear on the subject those views being the typical raving reverse racist ideology of any radical socialist.I’ll ask you again how do you explain the difference between government policy concerning apartheid in the case of South Africa and the Confederate States of America being wrong and supposedly racist.As opposed to exactly the same policy being viewed as right and not racist in the case of Yugoslavia,Ireland and Israel.

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Ah, I see you are racist and stupid and ignorant, not just the latter two. Oh well, at least I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.
It wasn’t right in Israel or Yugoslavia either. As I posted somewhere or other, what is now Israel was a peaceful multicultural community until the Zionists - who had remarkably similar ideas to yours - rolled in and unilaterally took over the land, culminating in the 1967 war which ended up with Israel extending its territory across 78% of Israel and illegally occupying the other 22%. That’s the source of the trouble in Israel, not the fact that some Arabs live there.
Ireland was a different matter, nothing to do with ethnicity. Although I’m now prepared for another twelve pages of the imbecile Carryfast ranting about different religions.

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Oh, and I’m not supporting what’s happened in Mugabe’s Zimbabwe, nor have I ever supported it. In fact, this would be obvious to abnyone who 1) had read my posts and 2) had the intelligence to understand them, instead of dismissing them as “reverse racist raving socialist zb bs” while flecking his computer monitor with spittle.

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Rhythm Thief:

Carryfast:
As I’ve said the situation,concerning that inconsistency,between the idea of no one having any problem in the case of segregation being used to bring peace in Yugoslavia and Ireland,while that’s not seen as being an option in South Africa ,or the former Confederate States of America,is glaringly obvious.For obvious reverse racist reasons as shown by your bs ideas.**Just like is being proved in South Africa now the policy of segregation in the Southern States was based on good reasons concerning violence of different types committed by both different ethnic groups against each other not to mention the simple issue that every ethnic group has the right to maintain it’s own identity.**Just as was the case in Yugoslavia and Ireland.Maybe you should tell the populations of those places that things would be much better if the policy of partition and segregation,which brought relative peace,was reversed and then when you’ve done it tell the same thing to ethnic european African populations of South Africa and the former Rhodesia.Basically your continuing raving accusations of racism,concerning my reasoned objective arguments,are just typical idealistic dictatorial bs of the type which I’m familiar with,like Horowitz,having actually spent a small amount of time being part of the socialist cause and then rejected it as the dangerous ideology which it really is.

CF, old horse, I don;t know where you’ve picked up that little snippet of misinformation from, but it’s not true. Not at all. I’m not taking the ■■■■ now, but I might have been wrong about you being actively racist: if you genuinely believe that “the policy of segregation in the Southern States was based on good reasons concerning violence of different types committed by both different ethnic groups against each other”, it’s just possible your whole argument is based on stupidity and ignorance rather than maliciousness.
Don’t fall into the trap of believing that segregation (and apartheid, come to that) was about anything other than the white overlords maintaining the supposed purity of their race while keeping the blacks in their place. There was never any benefit to the black race in either segregation or apartheid, and neither was their intended to be. Black only cafes, swimming pools, hotels, restaurants … you name it, they were inferior to the equivalent white - only facilities. This was not an accident. I’d be interested to see a link to your source of information about segregation, because what you’ve said above is just wrong.

Those differences that existed between the ethnic African and ethnic European populations of the Southern States were no different whatsoever to those which exist to date between the ethnic European and ethnic African populations of South Africa and the situation between the opposing sides in Yugoslavia and Ireland.The fact is those differences and often resulting acts of violence have applied on all sides.

My point is that you have to realise that those differences are always going to be there and need to be dealt with by seperation of the different groups not by integration which just pours petrol on the fire.Ironically it’s mainly the ethnic African groups that are just about the only people on the planet who want to be integrated when it suits them on some bs freeloading idea of wanting everything which the ethnic Europeans have made for themselves.Welcome to the real world there’s no such thing as a free lunch the African population will have to do it on there own by themselves on their own efforts with no involvement of the ethnic european population.The same mentality applies in large part in relation to the reasons for the remaining nationalist republican population who refused to move south of the border in Ireland which is why Michael Collins’ plan for partition didn’t work as well as it would have if they’d have moved.

Other than that every other ethnic group from the native Americans to the Jews would prefer to keep themselves to their own with no wish to be integrated with anyone or applying such bs ideas of reverse racism when it suits them.

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Jezzzzz the black dude is dead give it a rest now you two :unamused:

at least till they put him in the hole :wink: