Nailing my Colours to the Mast

Saxon786:

jammymutt:
At the end of the day this discussion brings out 2 kinds of people, Those who object to someone coming to their country and those who dont.

This ain’t your country. You are a foreigner. Why are you here :question:

We have a few of you down at our place. They stick together like [zb] on a shovel like all foreigners do. That suits me fine as I can’t understand their gibberish.

It’s funny how the Scots call themselves British when it suits. Well, I’ve got news for you.

You’ll never be a countryman of mine.

And i thought i was the racist!!!:):):):):):):):slight_smile:

There was a lovely sketch when Rab C Nesbitt came to England on Burns Night. He smacks a suburban Southerner in the nose who says." You are a disgrace to Scotland & nothing but a bigoted thug !" Rab proudly replies." Aye! & don`t you bloody forget it!!!" :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

jammymutt:
our economy (one of the strongest in the world( about 4th if you want to be precise

Our economy is false as it is based on debt ie credit cards & loans as most people spend way above their means. It will all come crashing down one day.

jammymutt:
Soon we will have ZERO unemployment and you know what that means? no [zb] jobs for anyone who is British and hasnt got one, but some foerigner has a job and a nice car and is feeding their family well while someone who is British has no job!!!

Considering the 2001 cencus, 87.5 percent of people in England & Wales gave their ethnic group as white British, I don’t think this will be any time soon. British people have ALWAYS moaned about their lot, it’s always someone elses fault that they are downtrodden, whether it’s blacks, Asians & now Russians & Poles.

It’s up to YOU to better yourself, no one else will do it for you. Just stop whinging about it. It’s OK for a Scottish family to move to England for economic reasons but not someone from the continent?

Well if we’re talking about if its “LEGAL” then its fine…well then it must be “LEGAL” for refugee’s to hijack aircraft’s then…the last group that did it were put in prison, then given asylum.
LEGAL? According to the judge.
Irresponsible and dangerous? DEFINATLY!

Saxon786:

jammymutt:
At the end of the day this discussion brings out 2 kinds of people, Those who object to someone coming to their country and those who dont.

This ain’t your country. You are a foreigner. Why are you here :question:

We have a few of you down at our place. They stick together like [zb] on a shovel like all foreigners do. That suits me fine as I can’t understand their gibberish.

It’s funny how the Scots call themselves British when it suits. Well, I’ve got news for you.

You’ll never be a countryman of mine.

a very good point, nobody thinks owt of a scot or a welshman living and working in england but many are saying pols and the like shouldn’t be allowed to do just that but the whole idea of this united europe nonsense was to make it like the uk but on a larger scale, so whats the problem?
some have stated that unless you vote you only have yourself to blame, maybe but i’d be interested in what party they voted for before the uk joined europe? unless it was the raving loony party, they voted to join the eu because all major parties were in favour :confused:
again a national referendum would have seen us not go into europe but still people voted for parties who intended to do just that, half of em middle aged middle class women from suburbia who chose a party because their flag was a nice colour.
so the question is, based on your views on foreign workers, muslims etc what party would you vote for if there was a general election tomorrow in this so called democracy?

Not often I agree with you Paul, but good points. :bulb:

I don’t think there is any party that supports all my views/desires and doubt there ever will be, so you either go with whichever one is closest, or you don’t vote at all.

I think the first thing that needs to be sorted out is the immigration problem and therefore the BNP gets my vote, but I don’t agree with a lot of their other stuff.

was reading a survey published by the daily mail earlier, where they put some of the bnp’s main agenda to the consensus, something like 60% agreed with things like halting imigration etc but once they were told that it was part of the bnp’s manfesto that figure dropped to 40% simply because people see them as facists or just plain nutters which when you look at some of their other ideas isn’t far wrong!
wonder how long it will be before one of the major parties wakes up and adopts some of those policies as their own to gain support?

It’s OK for a Scottish family to move to England for economic reasons but not someone from the continent?

Well yes of course it is!! They are still British - so are the Welsh and Northern Irish so it is fine that they come to England - just the same as the English going to Scotland, Wales or Ireland to work.

If we went to Poland, Romania, and the like would we receive benefits and a council house?? I think not!

As for a National referendum. I do remember that there was a referendum as to wether we should join the (then) Common Market - which everyone seemed to hate the idea of.
I was delighted to hear there was a referendum and hoped that would be the end of the idea but the wording on the referendum gave no choices at all.
VERY cleverly worded so that you had no choice as to either vote for it or abstain.
Wish I could remember the exact words but sadly cannot.
‘They’ did not get into high places by being dim witted after all.

Mothertrucker:

It’s OK for a Scottish family to move to England for economic reasons but not someone from the continent?

Well yes of course it is!! They are still British - so are the Welsh and Northern Irish so it is fine that they come to England - just the same as the English going to Scotland, Wales or Ireland to work.

If we went to Poland, Romania, and the like would we receive benefits and a council house?? I think not!

As for a National referendum. I do remember that there was a referendum as to wether we should join the (then) Common Market - which everyone seemed to hate the idea of.
I was delighted to hear there was a referendum and hoped that would be the end of the idea but the wording on the referendum gave no choices at all.
VERY cleverly worded so that you had no choice as to either vote for it or abstain.
Wish I could remember the exact words but sadly cannot.
‘They’ did not get into high places by being dim witted after all.

Well said Mothertrucker. :exclamation:

I’m keeping my personal opinions on this whole immigration subject to myself, since very few people can take them for being exactly that - personal, rather than the opinion or stance of the site in general. :unamused:

I will, however, address these points:

daneinter:
i have felt strongly enough about this issue to email the owners of this site to complain about what i see as certain posts being a incitement to racial hatred, however they have seen fit not to respond, hence this post.

If I replied to every e-mail about every post that comes into my various inboxes, I would have no time left in which to go out and earn a living and my family would starve in a cardboard box. When I start getting paid for my time, the members may dictate how I use it. Until then, patience and understanding would serve you well, and if you can’t manage that, then tough. Sorry, but there it is.
As for Rikki (if that’s who you e-mailed), when he finds a sudden and miraculous cure for his long-term health condition, the one which means all Forum matters get forwarded to me (see above) I’m sure he’ll be happy to help too.

If I took action on every thread about which I have an e-mail, there would be very little left on the site to read.

I’m a truck driver first and foremost. Paying the bills has to take priority.

jammymutt:
Firstly theres no point in contacting them unless it effects their pocket and it upsets Mrs Mix so dont bother with them they dont care, you can call someone adamn stupid and ignorant immigrant on here but call thema [zb] stupide black [zb] [zb] and you will be banned.

Personal Comment, Admin hat OFF: Go check the accounts at Companies House Alex. And as for not caring, consider yourself knocked off my list of people on here who I class as personal friends. You’ve been whining on about this one a lot recently, when you full well that it’s not the case. It’s bad enough having to take this sort of crap from members for whom we’re all just faceless names on the Net…But from a man who I’ve gone out of my way to have a drink with? From a man who’ll happily pull up in his car when he sees me with a puncture for a good old natter with a mate whilst I wait for tyreservices to show up? Decide which of your two faces is the real one and stick to it, eh?

Saxon786:

Rob K:
What makes me laugh is him thinking that TN management (and everyone else) actually cares !!! PMSL.

Could the TN management post here to verify this please.

The moderation is truly pathetic. Even the posting of inaccurate information is “supposedly” against the rules.

Email the sponsors and show them what they get for their money :bulb:

If you find the site so offensive, then what on earth are you doing posting on it? You can vote with your mouse, you know. We tried being tough on these threads, and got an avalanche of complaints. We tried backing off a bit, and got an avalanche of complaints. Every week we get mail saying we’re too left wing/right wing/strict/slack/black/white.

When we get equal numbers of complaints from both sides of any given arguement, I reckon we’ve got it about right. :wink:

The sponsors, with whom Rikki is in regular contact by telephone, keep a very close eye on what is being posted on here…and for your information, they happen to agree. :stuck_out_tongue:

Has your phone “been ringing off the hook” again then Lucy??! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

some have stated that unless you vote you only have yourself to blame, maybe but i’d be interested in what party they voted for before the uk joined europe?

Conservative

again a national referendum would have seen us not go into europe

I’m really sorry to have to tell you this but there was one - it would have been 1972 - and the people voted, by a large majority if I remember right, that the UK should join the EEC.

I was delighted to hear there was a referendum and hoped that would be the end of the idea but the wording on the referendum gave no choices at all.
VERY cleverly worded so that you had no choice as to either vote for it or abstain.
Wish I could remember the exact words but sadly cannot.

I don’t remember it like that. To my memory the question was plain and simple. Do you want to join yes or no. And I voted yes because I thought it was the right thing.
But it is a fact that the EEC that we voted for then had nothing to do with the EEC we have now. Then it was a larger version of the Benelux Union and what we were asked to vote on was the free movement of goods and the right to live and / or work in the other 8 EEC countries - which all sounded like a good idea. All the nonsense that we have now came later as did the idea to allow poor eastern countries to join though, no doubt, it was already in the politicians plan.

We tried being tough on these threads, and got an avalanche of complaints. We tried backing off a bit, and got an avalanche of complaints. Every week we get mail saying we’re too left wing/right wing/strict/slack/black/white.

You have my complete sympathy, Lucy. Until recently I was an admin on a board here in Spain and a more awful, thankless task could not be imagined. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

David

1973 the uk joins the eec, means nothing in reality, in 1993 the eu is formed, originally instigated in 87 (conservative) 1999 euro parliament is handed powers to enforce laws in any eu state (labour) so who gets the the all important vote now? obviously neither of the above, lid dems maybe, but their euro policy changes by the week so theres not much choice as all the major parties have at some point took an anti euro stance to try and win votes but here we are having our lives dictated by brussels even to the point where they tell us how many hours we are allowed to work and who is allowed to come to our country to live, weather we like it or not!
democracy? depends which country you live in, i’m sure the pols and the bulgarians and romanians will tell you the eu is a wonderful thing.

I can’t see why people feel the need to email or use whatever other means of contact they choose to complain about a thread on an internet forum …
I really can’t see the point . Of all the different forums i use i find trucknet , which is the only job related forum i use , to be the most moderated.
I can think of one forum i use which has zero moderation and adopts a "if you don’t like it ■■■■ off"attitude . Works very well , the moaners soon learn fast no-one cares if they don’t like some of the topics and no-one listens if they complain . They soon dissapear .

Complaining about threads , my oh my :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Right carry on back on topic :

Who would i vote for now ?
Conservative . There is some lessons to be learnt from labours tenancy in NO10 , Too much has been allowed to get out of control . If you ask me i think another party deserve a crack at the whip .

If you find the site so offensive, then what on earth are you doing posting on it? You can vote with your mouse, you know.

Well said Lucy!!

Some of the complaints I read about threads on various forums reminds me of Mrs White house who was famously quoted as saying “She had been offended by having to sit through two hours of pure filth!”
Another one who obviously could not find her ‘Off’’ button! :laughing:

And I will be voting BMP is there is a candidate in my constituency.

BMP?.

jammymutt:
BMP?.

British Mothers Party

That’s the one!!
Mum ALWAYS knows best!

:laughing: :laughing:

paul@midway:
Who would i vote for now ?
Conservative . There is some lessons to be learnt from labours tenancy in NO10 , Too much has been allowed to get out of control . If you ask me i think another party deserve a crack at the whip .

there in lies the problem, you can bet your house and everything else you may own on the conservatives winning the next election but the vast majority won’t be voting for them because of their manifesto but simply because they’re fed up with labour and on and on it goes.
bpn or bmp if you like have stumbled on one or two things that a hell of a lot of people agree with but could you really vote for a party who’s intent is to allow every english born person the right to keep a firearm in their home for self defence? or who would bring back national service?

paul b:
but could you really vote for a party who’s intent is to allow every english born person the right to keep a firearm in their home for self defence? or who would bring back national service?

Everyones got one here, there’s a shooting a month at least!!!