More weight for farmers

AHT:
High power or not they are still limited to 20mph so not really going to make a dent on haulage work is it

I live in the heart of the crop growing area of Lincolnshire, I work for a chilled food distributor who do a lot of collections from farms within a 25 mile radius, I can assure you that many of the tractors around here do not do 20mph! I was behind one on my motorbike, doing 45 pulling a trailer with 12 crates of double stacked cabbages (so 24 in total). He may have only been going a mile or 2 down the road. However if he can now do this legally, he will and will be taking it to our depot rather than us collecting it.

NewLad:

AHT:
High power or not they are still limited to 20mph so not really going to make a dent on haulage work is it

I live in the heart of the crop growing area of Lincolnshire, I work for a chilled food distributor who do a lot of collections from farms within a 25 mile radius, I can assure you that many of the tractors around here do not do 20mph! I was behind one on my motorbike, doing 45 pulling a trailer with 12 crates of double stacked cabbages (so 24 in total). He may have only been going a mile or 2 down the road. However if he can now do this legally, he will and will be taking it to our depot rather than us collecting it.

The current speed limit is 20, the vast majority of tractors will do 30 with a few doing 40

weeto:

Wheel Nut:
There are dozens of situations that will affect the local haulier with this, especially in my spiritual home of East Yorkshire, market gardners running produce to market, farmers running their own grain into store, contractors with a farm and a spare excavator. Sugar beet factories, pig markets, dairies.

So, why do you think that the farmers should pay some one else to take their goods to market, and lose what little profit there is in the goods being taken?

There is nothing wrong with farmers moving there own goods to market, it’s when you get farmers maybe moving sugar beet into the factory with tractors paying a 16 year old to carry 25 ton instead of using a truck. They can work 7 days per week has many hours as they like each day only paying 70p for fuel. If they want to go into haulage it has got to be on the same rules as hauliers have to follow.

stevieboy308:

NewLad:

AHT:
High power or not they are still limited to 20mph so not really going to make a dent on haulage work is it

I live in the heart of the crop growing area of Lincolnshire, I work for a chilled food distributor who do a lot of collections from farms within a 25 mile radius, I can assure you that many of the tractors around here do not do 20mph! I was behind one on my motorbike, doing 45 pulling a trailer with 12 crates of double stacked cabbages (so 24 in total). He may have only been going a mile or 2 down the road. However if he can now do this legally, he will and will be taking it to our depot rather than us collecting it.

The current speed limit is 20, the vast majority of tractors will do 30 with a few doing 40

The current is 20 but they want it put up to 25

Why are they not electronically limited like us then? I saw an episode of Top Gear where Clarkson had a muddywheeler that would do 50. I’m telling you they don’t hang about around here.

mac12:

stevieboy308:

NewLad:

AHT:
High power or not they are still limited to 20mph so not really going to make a dent on haulage work is it

I live in the heart of the crop growing area of Lincolnshire, I work for a chilled food distributor who do a lot of collections from farms within a 25 mile radius, I can assure you that many of the tractors around here do not do 20mph! I was behind one on my motorbike, doing 45 pulling a trailer with 12 crates of double stacked cabbages (so 24 in total). He may have only been going a mile or 2 down the road. However if he can now do this legally, he will and will be taking it to our depot rather than us collecting it.

The current speed limit is 20, the vast majority of tractors will do 30 with a few doing 40

The current is 20 but they want it put up to 25

Yeah I know, I don’t really see the point of going upto 25, might as well go to 30 as that’s what the majority can do and do do.

This is what they have put about tractor speeds

It is also assumed that all vehicles travel at 20 mph on public roads and that there is no noncompliance. The Department has been made aware of anecdotal evidence suggesting that noncompliance to these speed limits could be widespread. However — as we have no figures demonstrating how big a problem this is — we have assumed that no tractor drivers are breaking the law or would do so in future if the speed limit remained constant.

Nobody caught so nobody speeds

mac12:
This is what they have put about tractor speeds

It is also assumed that all vehicles travel at 20 mph on public roads and that there is no noncompliance. The Department has been made aware of anecdotal evidence suggesting that noncompliance to these speed limits could be widespread. However — as we have no figures demonstrating how big a problem this is — we have assumed that no tractor drivers are breaking the law or would do so in future if the speed limit remained constant.

Nobody caught so nobody speeds

Yeah, I read that yesterday!! Comedy gold!!

Farmers and hauliers both plead poverty but many can seem to afford range rovers

kr79:
Farmers and hauliers both plead poverty but many can seem to afford range rovers

But why a V6 sport with suspension lower than a choir boys pants?

mac12:

weeto:

Wheel Nut:
There are dozens of situations that will affect the local haulier with this, especially in my spiritual home of East Yorkshire, market gardners running produce to market, farmers running their own grain into store, contractors with a farm and a spare excavator. Sugar beet factories, pig markets, dairies.

So, why do you think that the farmers should pay some one else to take their goods to market, and lose what little profit there is in the goods being taken?

There is nothing wrong with farmers moving there own goods to market, it’s when you get farmers maybe moving sugar beet into the factory with tractors paying a 16 year old to carry 25 ton instead of using a truck. They can work 7 days per week has many hours as they like each day only paying 70p for fuel. If they want to go into haulage it has got to be on the same rules as hauliers have to follow.

He has grown it, why should he pay some one £80 to take it to the factory and eat all the profits, when he can get his son to take it at a cost of a fiver?
It’s not as if they are breaking any laws now is it.


Ooh argh.

Wheel Nut:
There are dozens of situations that will affect the local haulier with this, especially in my spiritual home of East Yorkshire, market gardners running produce to market, farmers running their own grain into store, contractors with a farm and a spare excavator. Sugar beet factories, pig markets, dairies.

funny that on all the plant forums you do not find anyone ■■■■■■■■ about this
like you do on this forum about farmers hauling

perhaps i should remember too the next time i am asked to pull out a stuck truck to decline as i will be taking recovery operators work too :laughing:

d4c24a:
how can they allow this too , bloody farmers :unamused:

nfuonline.com/business/trans … -gritting/

Every other grittier is running on red, don’t see how this makes a difference !

stevieboy308:
i’ve not seen anything official, but the rumours i’ve heard are that to run at the higher speeds and weight then annual testing would be needed, possibly needing to running on air brakes as well / twin circuit brakes.

JCB have been on air brakes or had the ability for air brakes to be used for years and years.

AHT:
High power or not they are still limited to 20mph so not really going to make a dent on haulage work is it

They do far more than 20mph. A bulk standard tractor years back was limited to 20 mph but these fastrac machine do a lot more.

Denis F:

d4c24a:
how can they allow this too , bloody farmers :unamused:

nfuonline.com/business/trans … -gritting/

Every other grittier is running on red, don’t see how this makes a difference !

gritters that run on red need to be dedicated gritters ,not demounts etc

farmers who used towed gritters were not performing agricultural activities and being they were not dedicated gritters had to run on white

Most of the Magistrates and County Councillors are farmers in the rural area’s,so the farmers are basically a law unto themselves.

Dave the Renegade:
Most of the Magistrates and County Councillors are farmers in the rural area’s,so the farmers are basically a law unto themselves.

Next you will be saying they are all shagging each other :grimacing:

Dave the Renegade:
Most of the Magistrates and County Councillors are farmers in the rural area’s,so the farmers are basically a law unto themselves.

any chance of some figures on that , as i do not know one who is either , must get annoying carrying that big chip around :laughing:

Lusk:

Dave the Renegade:
Most of the Magistrates and County Councillors are farmers in the rural area’s,so the farmers are basically a law unto themselves.

Next you will be saying they are all shagging each other :grimacing:

I notice that you are a newbie to these forums, and it shows in your comment. :unamused: