Ive just had 18 months with a blackberry storm 2 on vodafone which was shocking bad and would drop signal and calls every few minutes. Ive still with vodafone and have just got a blackberry bold 9780 for £20 a month and I love it. I did want the torch but couldnt really turn this deal down. If you do europe at all its worth noting that blackberry messenger is free to use so saves loads of roaming text charges.
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantly
Back to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument 
skids:
Ive just had 18 months with a blackberry storm 2 on vodafone which was shocking bad and would drop signal and calls every few minutes. Ive still with vodafone and have just got a blackberry bold 9780 for £20 a month and I love it. I did want the torch but couldnt really turn this deal down. If you do europe at all its worth noting that blackberry messenger is free to use so saves loads of roaming text charges.
Blackberry Messenger is only to other Blackberry’s though, not any handset.
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.
Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
Yep, you should have expected a factual reply. And that’s what you got.
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
Yep, you should have expected a factual reply. And that’s what you got.
I wouldn’t want to argue lest you call me argumentative again.
Pot calling the kettle black anyone?
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
Yep, you should have expected a factual reply. And that’s what you got.
I wouldn’t want to argue lest you call me argumentative again.
Pot calling the kettle black anyone?
Hmmm someone says something about something but I know the answer to be something different, so I post the facts I know so people are more informed.
But that’s argumentative■■?
If I was saying all other phones are rubbish, get a superior iPhone then I would understand your point.
Not once have I said that, just corrected some misconceptions so people know what’s what.
My you must struggle in life needing everything to be explained so in depth before you understand it.
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
Yep, you should have expected a factual reply. And that’s what you got.
I wouldn’t want to argue lest you call me argumentative again.
Pot calling the kettle black anyone?
Maybe have some of that hair cut off, it may be putting to much pressure on your brain for it to operate correctly 
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.
Ooo getting all bitchy again. I don’t know, I’m not an Apple engineer. I don’t think the much hyped ‘death grip’ is the problem. My iPad also is rubbish at hanging onto a network, even abroad when both struggle despite having a choice of many networks. If I could be bothered I’d film the iPhone sat in it’s cradle on the dash searching for a network for up to 5 minutes, then finding one bar, when the truck phone and a £20 Vodafone payg has full signal. But I cant be bothered as you’d still think it’s all in my head. I think Apple products, well recent ones, have an inherent problem with signal. I still think they make great products and wouldnt give up my iPad or MacBook for the world, but the iPhone 4 is a letdown. The 3GS was a great phone, as I hope the 5 will be.
Have you ever thought it’s your argumentative problem and not your wife’s? After all in the short time you’ve seemingly been posting you’d argued with everyone who disagrees with you and seem unable to understand what people are saying.
I’ve already popped you in the Carryfast/Happy Keith category, you may not know what I’m on about but you soon will.
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.Ooo getting all bitchy again. I don’t know, I’m not an Apple engineer. I don’t think the much hyped ‘death grip’ is the problem. My iPad also is rubbish at hanging onto a network, even abroad when both struggle despite having a choice of many networks. If I could be bothered I’d film the iPhone sat in it’s cradle on the dash searching for a network for up to 5 minutes, then finding one bar, when the truck phone and a £20 Vodafone payg has full signal. But I cant be bothered as you’d still think it’s all in my head. I think Apple products, well recent ones, have an inherent problem with signal. I still think they make great products and wouldnt give up my iPad or MacBook for the world, but the iPhone 4 is a letdown. The 3GS was a great phone, as I hope the 5 will be.
Have you ever thought it’s your argumentative problem and not your wife’s? After all in the short time you’ve seemingly been posting you’d argued with everyone who disagrees with you and seem unable to understand what people are saying.
I’ve already popped you in the Carryfast/Happy Keith category, you may not know what I’m on about but you soon will.
Lol was just having a laugh with you mate.
Mate, I’ll say it again, I’m not arguing I’m just stating facts about certain things. I’ve got all sorts of gadgets and read up on them all.
If I’m arguing then what am I arguing for? I’m not saying the iPhone is the best, just that it does all that an android phone will do.
Some people have made suggestions that are factually false so I’ve corrected them, that’s all.
Its to give the original poster more info to make an informed decision.
I don’t care if someone prefers an Android handset or an iPhone, but in a discussion about different phones why shouldn’t I be able to post facts or correct errors posted by others?
Whether people take those facts on board or not is up to them and doesn’t affect me, but the information may be of interest to others.
I’m assuming your in the category of the annoying teenage brother who goes on and on without actually knowing what he is on about then? Ha
You see that ‘ha’ at the end? Means having a laugh with ya 
Yeah apple do make some great products, shame they have to use ■■■■■■ iTunes though. Anybody found a decent alternative? Can’t be bothered with trial and error!!
Anyway, as stated before, I think anyone getting a new phone would be happy with either an iPhone or Android handset.
Just out of interest, what firmware version is your iPhone currently on?
Maybe have some of that hair cut off, it may be putting to much pressure on your brain for it to operate correctly
Maybe I should do a poll to see how many of the people who comment about my hair are bald.
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.Ooo getting all bitchy again. I don’t know, I’m not an Apple engineer. I don’t think the much hyped ‘death grip’ is the problem. My iPad also is rubbish at hanging onto a network, even abroad when both struggle despite having a choice of many networks. If I could be bothered I’d film the iPhone sat in it’s cradle on the dash searching for a network for up to 5 minutes, then finding one bar, when the truck phone and a £20 Vodafone payg has full signal. But I cant be bothered as you’d still think it’s all in my head. I think Apple products, well recent ones, have an inherent problem with signal. I still think they make great products and wouldnt give up my iPad or MacBook for the world, but the iPhone 4 is a letdown. The 3GS was a great phone, as I hope the 5 will be.
Have you ever thought it’s your argumentative problem and not your wife’s? After all in the short time you’ve seemingly been posting you’d argued with everyone who disagrees with you and seem unable to understand what people are saying.
I’ve already popped you in the Carryfast/Happy Keith category, you may not know what I’m on about but you soon will.
Lol was just having a laugh with you mate.
Mate, I’ll say it again, I’m not arguing I’m just stating facts about certain things. I’ve got all sorts of gadgets and read up on them all.
If I’m arguing then what am I arguing for? I’m not saying the iPhone is the best, just that it does all that an android phone will do.
Some people have made suggestions that are factually false so I’ve corrected them, that’s all.
Its to give the original poster more info to make an informed decision.
I don’t care if someone prefers an Android handset or an iPhone, but in a discussion about different phones why shouldn’t I be able to post facts or correct errors posted by others?
Whether people take those facts on board or not is up to them and doesn’t affect me, but the information may be of interest to others.I’m assuming your in the category of the annoying teenage brother who goes on and on without actually knowing what he is on about then? Ha
You see that ‘ha’ at the end? Means having a laugh with yaYeah apple do make some great products, shame they have to use [zb] iTunes though. Anybody found a decent alternative? Can’t be bothered with trial and error!!
Anyway, as stated before, I think anyone getting a new phone would be happy with either an iPhone or Android handset.
Just out of interest, what firmware version is your iPhone currently on?
I think your in the annoying full of his own self importance never wrong category that pops up on here from time to time. Ha. See that ha, it means I’m having a laugh with you, maybe.
switchlogic:
Maybe have some of that hair cut off, it may be putting to much pressure on your brain for it to operate correctly
Maybe I should do a poll to see how many of the people who comment about my hair are bald.
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Lol good point. Luckily I still have some hair.
I give it another couple of years yet.
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.Ooo getting all bitchy again. I don’t know, I’m not an Apple engineer. I don’t think the much hyped ‘death grip’ is the problem. My iPad also is rubbish at hanging onto a network, even abroad when both struggle despite having a choice of many networks. If I could be bothered I’d film the iPhone sat in it’s cradle on the dash searching for a network for up to 5 minutes, then finding one bar, when the truck phone and a £20 Vodafone payg has full signal. But I cant be bothered as you’d still think it’s all in my head. I think Apple products, well recent ones, have an inherent problem with signal. I still think they make great products and wouldnt give up my iPad or MacBook for the world, but the iPhone 4 is a letdown. The 3GS was a great phone, as I hope the 5 will be.
Have you ever thought it’s your argumentative problem and not your wife’s? After all in the short time you’ve seemingly been posting you’d argued with everyone who disagrees with you and seem unable to understand what people are saying.
I’ve already popped you in the Carryfast/Happy Keith category, you may not know what I’m on about but you soon will.
Lol was just having a laugh with you mate.
Mate, I’ll say it again, I’m not arguing I’m just stating facts about certain things. I’ve got all sorts of gadgets and read up on them all.
If I’m arguing then what am I arguing for? I’m not saying the iPhone is the best, just that it does all that an android phone will do.
Some people have made suggestions that are factually false so I’ve corrected them, that’s all.
Its to give the original poster more info to make an informed decision.
I don’t care if someone prefers an Android handset or an iPhone, but in a discussion about different phones why shouldn’t I be able to post facts or correct errors posted by others?
Whether people take those facts on board or not is up to them and doesn’t affect me, but the information may be of interest to others.I’m assuming your in the category of the annoying teenage brother who goes on and on without actually knowing what he is on about then? Ha
You see that ‘ha’ at the end? Means having a laugh with yaYeah apple do make some great products, shame they have to use [zb] iTunes though. Anybody found a decent alternative? Can’t be bothered with trial and error!!
Anyway, as stated before, I think anyone getting a new phone would be happy with either an iPhone or Android handset.
Just out of interest, what firmware version is your iPhone currently on?
What are you an apple mafia? Or just a sad ■■■■■■■■ who can’t listen to constructive criticism about an item he owns because their couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with it? My money is on the second option.
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.Ooo getting all bitchy again. I don’t know, I’m not an Apple engineer. I don’t think the much hyped ‘death grip’ is the problem. My iPad also is rubbish at hanging onto a network, even abroad when both struggle despite having a choice of many networks. If I could be bothered I’d film the iPhone sat in it’s cradle on the dash searching for a network for up to 5 minutes, then finding one bar, when the truck phone and a £20 Vodafone payg has full signal. But I cant be bothered as you’d still think it’s all in my head. I think Apple products, well recent ones, have an inherent problem with signal. I still think they make great products and wouldnt give up my iPad or MacBook for the world, but the iPhone 4 is a letdown. The 3GS was a great phone, as I hope the 5 will be.
Have you ever thought it’s your argumentative problem and not your wife’s? After all in the short time you’ve seemingly been posting you’d argued with everyone who disagrees with you and seem unable to understand what people are saying.
I’ve already popped you in the Carryfast/Happy Keith category, you may not know what I’m on about but you soon will.
Lol was just having a laugh with you mate.
Mate, I’ll say it again, I’m not arguing I’m just stating facts about certain things. I’ve got all sorts of gadgets and read up on them all.
If I’m arguing then what am I arguing for? I’m not saying the iPhone is the best, just that it does all that an android phone will do.
Some people have made suggestions that are factually false so I’ve corrected them, that’s all.
Its to give the original poster more info to make an informed decision.
I don’t care if someone prefers an Android handset or an iPhone, but in a discussion about different phones why shouldn’t I be able to post facts or correct errors posted by others?
Whether people take those facts on board or not is up to them and doesn’t affect me, but the information may be of interest to others.I’m assuming your in the category of the annoying teenage brother who goes on and on without actually knowing what he is on about then? Ha
You see that ‘ha’ at the end? Means having a laugh with yaYeah apple do make some great products, shame they have to use [zb] iTunes though. Anybody found a decent alternative? Can’t be bothered with trial and error!!
Anyway, as stated before, I think anyone getting a new phone would be happy with either an iPhone or Android handset.
Just out of interest, what firmware version is your iPhone currently on?
I think your in the annoying full of his own self importance never wrong category that pops up on here from time to time. Ha. See that ha, it means I’m having a laugh with you, maybe.
Because you refuse to educate yourself that doesn’t put me in that category mate.
You can put the information out there but you can’t make people educate themselves eh.
Remember your the guy that thought his phone came without a user guide haha so how can we take any of your points seriously?
bigtruck:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.Ooo getting all bitchy again. I don’t know, I’m not an Apple engineer. I don’t think the much hyped ‘death grip’ is the problem. My iPad also is rubbish at hanging onto a network, even abroad when both struggle despite having a choice of many networks. If I could be bothered I’d film the iPhone sat in it’s cradle on the dash searching for a network for up to 5 minutes, then finding one bar, when the truck phone and a £20 Vodafone payg has full signal. But I cant be bothered as you’d still think it’s all in my head. I think Apple products, well recent ones, have an inherent problem with signal. I still think they make great products and wouldnt give up my iPad or MacBook for the world, but the iPhone 4 is a letdown. The 3GS was a great phone, as I hope the 5 will be.
Have you ever thought it’s your argumentative problem and not your wife’s? After all in the short time you’ve seemingly been posting you’d argued with everyone who disagrees with you and seem unable to understand what people are saying.
I’ve already popped you in the Carryfast/Happy Keith category, you may not know what I’m on about but you soon will.
Lol was just having a laugh with you mate.
Mate, I’ll say it again, I’m not arguing I’m just stating facts about certain things. I’ve got all sorts of gadgets and read up on them all.
If I’m arguing then what am I arguing for? I’m not saying the iPhone is the best, just that it does all that an android phone will do.
Some people have made suggestions that are factually false so I’ve corrected them, that’s all.
Its to give the original poster more info to make an informed decision.
I don’t care if someone prefers an Android handset or an iPhone, but in a discussion about different phones why shouldn’t I be able to post facts or correct errors posted by others?
Whether people take those facts on board or not is up to them and doesn’t affect me, but the information may be of interest to others.I’m assuming your in the category of the annoying teenage brother who goes on and on without actually knowing what he is on about then? Ha
You see that ‘ha’ at the end? Means having a laugh with yaYeah apple do make some great products, shame they have to use [zb] iTunes though. Anybody found a decent alternative? Can’t be bothered with trial and error!!
Anyway, as stated before, I think anyone getting a new phone would be happy with either an iPhone or Android handset.
Just out of interest, what firmware version is your iPhone currently on?
What are you an apple mafia? Or just a sad [zb] who can’t listen to constructive criticism about an item he owns because their couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with it? My money is on the second option.
Ah another that can’t understand how a discussion works!!
Somebody states incorrect information, I know this to be wrong so I correct it.
If you had read correctly you would see that I stated there was an antenna problem at launch but it is corrected with a case.
How’s that for admitting fault? But why shouldn’t I correct the fact that people think the problem still exists, with a case?
I mean this is a discussion about phones is it not■■?
bigtruck:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.Ooo getting all bitchy again. I don’t know, I’m not an Apple engineer. I don’t think the much hyped ‘death grip’ is the problem. My iPad also is rubbish at hanging onto a network, even abroad when both struggle despite having a choice of many networks. If I could be bothered I’d film the iPhone sat in it’s cradle on the dash searching for a network for up to 5 minutes, then finding one bar, when the truck phone and a £20 Vodafone payg has full signal. But I cant be bothered as you’d still think it’s all in my head. I think Apple products, well recent ones, have an inherent problem with signal. I still think they make great products and wouldnt give up my iPad or MacBook for the world, but the iPhone 4 is a letdown. The 3GS was a great phone, as I hope the 5 will be.
Have you ever thought it’s your argumentative problem and not your wife’s? After all in the short time you’ve seemingly been posting you’d argued with everyone who disagrees with you and seem unable to understand what people are saying.
I’ve already popped you in the Carryfast/Happy Keith category, you may not know what I’m on about but you soon will.
Lol was just having a laugh with you mate.
Mate, I’ll say it again, I’m not arguing I’m just stating facts about certain things. I’ve got all sorts of gadgets and read up on them all.
If I’m arguing then what am I arguing for? I’m not saying the iPhone is the best, just that it does all that an android phone will do.
Some people have made suggestions that are factually false so I’ve corrected them, that’s all.
Its to give the original poster more info to make an informed decision.
I don’t care if someone prefers an Android handset or an iPhone, but in a discussion about different phones why shouldn’t I be able to post facts or correct errors posted by others?
Whether people take those facts on board or not is up to them and doesn’t affect me, but the information may be of interest to others.I’m assuming your in the category of the annoying teenage brother who goes on and on without actually knowing what he is on about then? Ha
You see that ‘ha’ at the end? Means having a laugh with yaYeah apple do make some great products, shame they have to use [zb] iTunes though. Anybody found a decent alternative? Can’t be bothered with trial and error!!
Anyway, as stated before, I think anyone getting a new phone would be happy with either an iPhone or Android handset.
Just out of interest, what firmware version is your iPhone currently on?
What are you an apple mafia? Or just a sad [zb] who can’t listen to constructive criticism about an item he owns because their couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with it? My money is on the second option.
Is there such a thing as constructive criticism about a fault with a phone??
If there is I guess I’m the one issuing it as I’m the only one suggesting the fixes for potential problems.
bigtruck:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
switchlogic:
GIxer7502:
Darb:
Both me and the missus have had iPhones for a few years and i wouldnt want another phone tbh, and that’s not because it’s fashionable or trendy it’s because it does everything I want it and it does ot brilliantlyBack to my point, her upgrade was a couple of weeks before mine and she had the iphone4, dropped calls were a constant issue, so she got a cover, a little improvement but it still happens a lot, this made my mind up to stick with my 3GS and save some cash too,
And in response to the " if you have a cover then it’s a network problem " comment, we are both on the same network and mine never drops a call but hers does it often, even when we are in the same location, so that settles that argument
A single persons experience don’t come close to settling that argument I’m afraid.
The problem with iPhone 4 that was well documented at launch is easily solved by using a case.
That’s a hardware fact that can’t be argued!!!
If someone still suffers from dropped calls then it’s down to something else. There are many network related problems which are likely to be at fault but it’s easier modern day customers to just blame it on their handset.
If you check iPhone forums you will struggle to find recent posts complaining about the Antenna issue.
Go back a year and the forums were full of them, until Apple gave everyone a free case and it solved the problems.Well nobody can say that reply wasn’t expected
I’m sorry, could you please explain to me what exactly what causes the antenna/signal issue, how I can avoid it and why a case won’t solve the problem?
I would be good to get some facts on the issue.
The teenager like responses are a little uninformative.
Thanks.Ooo getting all bitchy again. I don’t know, I’m not an Apple engineer. I don’t think the much hyped ‘death grip’ is the problem. My iPad also is rubbish at hanging onto a network, even abroad when both struggle despite having a choice of many networks. If I could be bothered I’d film the iPhone sat in it’s cradle on the dash searching for a network for up to 5 minutes, then finding one bar, when the truck phone and a £20 Vodafone payg has full signal. But I cant be bothered as you’d still think it’s all in my head. I think Apple products, well recent ones, have an inherent problem with signal. I still think they make great products and wouldnt give up my iPad or MacBook for the world, but the iPhone 4 is a letdown. The 3GS was a great phone, as I hope the 5 will be.
Have you ever thought it’s your argumentative problem and not your wife’s? After all in the short time you’ve seemingly been posting you’d argued with everyone who disagrees with you and seem unable to understand what people are saying.
I’ve already popped you in the Carryfast/Happy Keith category, you may not know what I’m on about but you soon will.
Lol was just having a laugh with you mate.
Mate, I’ll say it again, I’m not arguing I’m just stating facts about certain things. I’ve got all sorts of gadgets and read up on them all.
If I’m arguing then what am I arguing for? I’m not saying the iPhone is the best, just that it does all that an android phone will do.
Some people have made suggestions that are factually false so I’ve corrected them, that’s all.
Its to give the original poster more info to make an informed decision.
I don’t care if someone prefers an Android handset or an iPhone, but in a discussion about different phones why shouldn’t I be able to post facts or correct errors posted by others?
Whether people take those facts on board or not is up to them and doesn’t affect me, but the information may be of interest to others.I’m assuming your in the category of the annoying teenage brother who goes on and on without actually knowing what he is on about then? Ha
You see that ‘ha’ at the end? Means having a laugh with yaYeah apple do make some great products, shame they have to use [zb] iTunes though. Anybody found a decent alternative? Can’t be bothered with trial and error!!
Anyway, as stated before, I think anyone getting a new phone would be happy with either an iPhone or Android handset.
Just out of interest, what firmware version is your iPhone currently on?
What are you an apple mafia? Or just a sad [zb] who can’t listen to constructive criticism about an item he owns because their couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with it? My money is on the second option.
Now I don’t know much about trucks but I’m sure if I made a false statement about them you guys would be straight on it like a tramp on chips, correcting me and telling me how stupid I was!!
Now I wouldn’t argue it as it’s not my field, I would educate myself from your replies.
I don’t see this as any different!!!