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alte hase:
I don’t and won’t use the hard shoulders when they go ‘live’, the smart-asses smirking and sneering as they come hurtling-up the inside at break-neck speeds I’m quite prepared for them to ‘beat me’ along the road, what these trucking dumb-asses don’t realise is that I’m not in the same race as them, watching as they swerve from hard shoulder back to lane one and vice-versa, as the motorway’s ‘live hard shoulder’ comes-and-goes in existence or there’s someone else to swerve round, like they are in a go-kart race, real professional heavy truck drivers, that they are, to-be-sure.These hard shoulders opened up for ‘live traffic’ are the brainchild of the puerile pen-pushing cheapskate middle classes, whose inherrent position of keeping their heads lifelong up their own asses is the only reason this ridiculous ‘live hard shoulder’ running came to be thought of, I salute their ‘head-up-asse’ idiocy by resolutely refusing to endorse it, its called self preservation, something the current crop of hgv/truck drivers have little concept of, something to do with 99% of them being truckwit car drivers in HGV’s, trucking morons, to-be-sure.
Funny that but when I’m using the live HS theres nothing in front of me for 1/2 a mile as they’re all in lane 1 about 30 metres from the vehicle in front.
Tell me, in that situation, who is in a safer position to stop should there be a broken down vehicle in their lane? Me, ‘the smartass’ with a 1/2 mile unobstructed view of the road, or you ‘the real professional’ who cannot see further than the truck infront.
Quite frankly it shows that a. You’re not paying attention to the road ahead (otherwise you’d follow the instrucrions) and b. You need to refresh your knowledge of the latest edition highway code. Makes you real professional doesnt it?
alte hase:
These hard shoulders opened up for ‘live traffic’ are the brainchild of the puerile pen-pushing cheapskate middle classes, whose inherrent position of keeping their heads lifelong up their own asses is the only reason this ridiculous ‘live hard shoulder’ running came to be thought of, I salute their ‘head-up-asse’ idiocy by resolutely refusing to endorse it, its called self preservation, something the current crop of hgv/truck drivers have little concept of, something to do with 99% of them being truckwit car drivers in HGV’s, trucking morons, to-be-sure.
Started on the beer early today then? 
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alte hase:
I don’t and won’t use the hard shoulders when they go ‘live’
You could have saved yourselfa lot of typing. We got it at that point that you’re an idiot when it comes to driving with a a lack of knowledge of the most basic rule of the road while causing inconvenience to other toad users who wish to pass you by hogging a lane.
In roadworks where the lanes all move left and the hard shoulder is used as a running lane it is safe to presume from your post you continue to trundle along in what was lane 1 causing chaos and not giving a ■■■■ about other road users. Youre a liability.
Merry Chirstmas.
alte hase:
… the puerile pen-pushing cheapskate middle classes, whose inherrent position of keeping their heads lifelong up their own asses is the only reason this ridiculous ‘live hard shoulder’ running came to be thought of, I salute their ‘head-up-asse’ idiocy by resolutely refusing to endorse it, its called self preservation, …
Blimey, I had to look twice before I realised it wasn’t Happy Keith!
alte hase:
I don’t and won’t use the hard shoulders when they go ‘live’, …
So, does this mean that (at times) you’re owning up to being no different to the people who hog lane #2 on a conventional 3 lane m/way?
Everybody has encountered people who do that, so what’s your opinion of them?
TBF though, I’ve seen the antics when the ‘extra’ lane comes to an end.
alte hase:
m1cks:
Funny that but when I’m using the live HS theres nothing in front of me for 1/2 a mile as they’re all in lane 1 about 30 metres from the vehicle in front.
Tell me, in that situation, who is in a safer position to stop should there be a broken down vehicle in their lane? Me, ‘the smartass’ with a 1/2 mile unobstructed view of the road, or you ‘the real professional’ who cannot see further than the truck infront.
Quite frankly it shows that a. You’re not paying attention to the road ahead (otherwise you’d follow the instrucrions) and b. You need to refresh your knowledge of the latest edition highway code. Makes you real professional doesnt it?You must think I fell from the sky with yesterdays rain to believe that vehicles running down ‘live’ hard shoulders have half mile seperations between them, my knowledge of the highway code is irrelevant, people who commit the most dangerous of driving acts upon the roads can in all probability recite the current or previous highway code backwards, if I weren’t paying attention to the road ahead of me I reckon my 42 years of HGV driving without an incident on the roads would have ended by now, try harder with portraying your own driving standard as that of everyone else.
When you are on a motorway (non smart) what is your view of the cars that spread them selves out in all the lanes overtaking or not?
The dumb ■■■ in my view is the one sat in the now lane 2 cus they are to up their
own to try the new way.
I will pass on the inside no question but never felt the need to swerve in and out like a go cart, just use the lanes as intended.
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alte hase:
Coffeeholic:
alte hase:
I don’t and won’t use the hard shoulders when they go ‘live’You could have saved yourselfa lot of typing. We got it at that point that you’re an idiot when it comes to driving with a a lack of knowledge of the most basic rule of the road while causing inconvenience to other toad users who wish to pass you by hogging a lane.
Merry Chirstmas.
Another trucknet idiot trying to read as though they were actually not an idiot themselves, you cannot ‘hog’ lane one, a ‘live’ hard shoulder is a short term temporary additional inside lane and as many on trucknet have protested on other threads you can pass up the inside without facing censure from the law, so do it and see what I care.
Makes no difference if it’s temporary or not it’s still a lane and by not using it when clear you and all the others are in the wrong. Exactly the same as those vehicles who sit for mile after mile in lane 2 when lane 1 is clear. Presumably you have no problem with them?
alte hase:
The other ‘million’ drivers in lane ‘one’ are also in the wrong are they?, curious how the law leaves us all alone, and even if your ‘hurry-up’ and ‘push-hard’ breed get by I doubt your advantage will lead to any real time savings in a titchy little place like England, I simply bet you’re looking forward to the legalizing of 50 mph on single carriageway roads, it’s going to make such a big difference to your ‘push-hard’ breed.
Yes they are in the wrong, basic road rules and knowledge. It’s not about gaining an advantage, it’s about driving properly and keeping left unless overtaking.
I could care less about the raising of limits, it’s not changing for me as I can already do 60mph on single carriageways when the signs don’t indicate a lower limit.
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if its so important to have a hard shoulder during normal traffic conditions,then how come its ok not to have one when the cabbages decide its so busy at peak periods to remove it and use it as a running lane? id love to know the logic behind that gem of thought, it makes no diff to me as im usually doing the overtaking at the time in lane 2.(sometimes 3 at night and its quiet)…must make the boat overrules all else. 
It all comes down to one simple question, if you were driving along there on your driving test, would you use the HS if it were open? The answer would be yes, so why object so much the rest of the time. Or would you allow your stubbornness to fail your test with an accumulation of minor faults resulting in a fail.
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alte hase:
these innocent ‘over-takers’ ; car and truck drivers, are over-taking purely for what they see as the advantage of it, 99%
Please do enlighten us as to why the other 1% may feel the need to overtake. 100% of overtakes are to gain an advantage
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alte hase:
m1cks:
alte hase:
these innocent ‘over-takers’ ; car and truck drivers, are over-taking purely for what they see as the advantage of it, 99%Please do enlighten us as to why the other 1% may feel the need to overtake. 100% of overtakes are to gain an advantage
So you’ve never overtaken other vehicles by virtue of ‘your’ lane moving quicker than an adjoining lane, without any deliberate input from yourself, just how long have you been on the roads?.
No, that’s just called keeping with the flow of traffic, not overtaking. Thats why you’re allowed to pass a vehicle on it’s N/S if your lane is moving faster than theirs without comitting an offence of undertaking.
Classic head in ■■■ syndrome. It doesn’t matter if something is the brain child of penny pinching, or if it is in fact a good idea. You will not get all motorists agreeing with your good self.
But don’t judge other people who are prepared to follow the rules of the road.
FYI if I’m have a good rate of closure, yes I will come up your inside if you have decided to stay in old lane 1. If it’s old a km in it I will hang off your port quarter and enjoy a wonderful unobstructed view of the road in front of me.
Out of interest alte hase, do you make your own rules up on other roads too? Or is it just managed motorways■■?
m1cks:
It all comes down to one simple question, if you were driving along there on your driving test, would you use the HS if it were open? The answer would be yes, so why object so much the rest of the time. Or would you allow your stubbornness to fail your test with an accumulation of minor faults resulting in a fail.
who drives now the same way that they did on their driving test…apart from the holymoly do no wrong brigade on here…get real
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